Greece blasts Turkey over non-recognition of Cyprus

There are 42 comments on the EKathimerini story from Dec 26, 2013, titled Greece blasts Turkey over non-recognition of Cyprus. In it, EKathimerini reports that:

On Christmas Day the Greek Foreign Ministry blasted TurkeyA's decision to send a letter to the European Commission saying that it could not fully implement an agreement regarding the readmission of illegal immigrants because it does not recognize the Republic of Cyprus.

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Nick the Greek

London, UK

#1 Dec 26, 2013
2014:Hellenic Revival Year!

The position of Turkey on Cyprus is unsustainable!

There are No more good or Valid reasons for Turkey to be keeping >40,000 foot soldiers on Cypriot soil. Turkey cannot keep her Army there indefinately!

At some stage, Turkey shall have to leave Cyprus - on good terms rather than bad ones!
Rockstar

Jessup, MD

#2 Dec 26, 2013
Nick the Greek wrote:
2014:Hellenic Revival Year!

The position of Turkey on Cyprus is unsustainable!

There are No more good or Valid reasons for Turkey to be keeping >40,000 foot soldiers on Cypriot soil. Turkey cannot keep her Army there indefinately!

At some stage, Turkey shall have to leave Cyprus - on good terms rather than bad ones!
Why should we leave? You leave, cksucker.
Themistocles

Brisbane, Australia

#3 Dec 27, 2013
Rockstar wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should we leave? You leave, cksucker.
A ridiculous response from a skinny, pimply faced nerd who would siht himself in a real conflict. A full time fool with nothing to vent his inadequacies besides a keyboard, a big time Loser
Dervish Eroglu

Woodford Green, UK

#4 Dec 27, 2013
Nick the Greek wrote:
2014:Hellenic Revival Year!
The position of Turkey on Cyprus is unsustainable!
There are No more good or Valid reasons for Turkey to be keeping >40,000 foot soldiers on Cypriot soil. Turkey cannot keep her Army there indefinately!
At some stage, Turkey shall have to leave Cyprus - on good terms rather than bad ones!
An offer was made to Greeks,, Greeks will take the offer at some stage once they get off their high horse..
trnc

Mersin, Turkey

#5 Dec 27, 2013
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>A ridiculous response from a skinny, pimply faced nerd who would siht himself in a real conflict. A full time fool with nothing to vent his inadequacies besides a keyboard, a big time Loser
tosser......
LOLOL nick

Collierville, TN

#6 Dec 27, 2013
Nick the Greek wrote:
2014:Hellenic Revival Year!
The position of Turkey on Cyprus is unsustainable!
There are No more good or Valid reasons for Turkey to be keeping >40,000 foot soldiers on Cypriot soil. Turkey cannot keep her Army there indefinately!
At some stage, Turkey shall have to leave Cyprus - on good terms rather than bad ones!
.......the 40000+ ethniccleansers thieves of cyprus will not leave till NATO tells them to leave,,,,,,,
Themistocles

Brisbane, Australia

#7 Dec 27, 2013
trnc wrote:
<quoted text> tosser......
Yes he's a tosser as well, good point

Since: Oct 08

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#8 Dec 27, 2013
Why are Greeks crying wolf? Cypriots didn't half of Cyprus join EU.
XAC

Vancouver, Canada

#9 Dec 27, 2013
Turkey: Reparations for Slavery under Ottoman Rule?

Like the descendants of enslaved people in the United States, should a proposal for the reparations for slavery be provided to ALL NATIONS which suffered under Ottoman rule?

Whereby some type of compensation could be proposed in a variety of forms, from individual monetary payments to land-based compensation schemes related to independence.

The Ottoman Empire was an empire which lasted 623 years, from 27 July 1299 to 1 November 1922, when the monarchy was abolished.

Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire : 1460's - 1908 = 448 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_O...

vs.

Slavery_in_the_United_States Slavery_in_the_United_States : 1620 - 1865 = 245 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_U...

"It is said that Sultan Mehmed II established the first slave market in Constantinople in the 1460s and as late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire."

The German state no longer has ties to the former Nazi Party and yet, Germany to this day is still paying Israel and various Jewish based lobby groups for crimes perpetrated against the Jewish people during WWII by a regime which was dissolved in the last century. I was surprised to discover the following:

Germany is still paying off £50million of the 'reparations' demanded from it after the end of First World War.

The German Finance Agency, its authority on debt management, said tens of millions of euros are still being transferred to private individuals holding debenture bonds as agreed under the Treaty of Versailles signed on June 28, 1919."

Read More >>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12326...

The Treaty of Lausanne (July 24, 1923) was a peace treaty signed in Lausanne, Switzerland, that settled the Anatolian and East Thracian parts of the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire by annulment of the Treaty of Sèvres (1920) that was signed by the Istanbul-based Ottoman government; as the consequence of the Turkish War of Independence between the Allies of World War I and the Ankara-based Grand National Assembly of Turkey (Turkish national movement) led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. The treaty also led to the international recognition of the sovereignty of the new Republic of Turkey as the successor state of the defunct Ottoman Empire.[15]

XAC

Vancouver, Canada

#10 Dec 27, 2013
*** Succession of states is a theory and practice in international relations regarding the recognition and acceptance of a newly created sovereign state by other states, based on a perceived historical relationship the new state has with a prior state. The theory has its root in 19th century diplomacy.***

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_st...

Italy agreed to pay reparations of about $105 million to Greece, while Germany may not consider war reparations to Greece an issue anymore

Comment: I believe in the near future, we'll be seeing a trend of alliances forming to collectively deal with this matter, during which countries which have been suppressed under Ottoman tyranny ... will cooperate in joint action, each in their own self-interest, joining forces together for a common cause.

List of Countries who have suffered slavery under Ottoman tyranny:

Egypt, Greece, Bulgaria, Cyprus, North Cyprus, Romania, Moldova, Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Oman, Yemen, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Italy and Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocid...

"... Indigenous groups such as the Choctaw, Lakota, and Lambuth people have received reparations (and rightly so) for treaty violations that occurred before the emancipation of African Americans. Japanese Americans have received reparations for their inhumane incarceration in internment camps during WWII, as well as the Jews who received reparations after the Nuremberg trials.

Slavery and the slave trade are recognized by international human rights organizations, e.g., the United Nations, as crimes against humanity and as such there are no statutes of limitations against nations who are to pay for these crimes. "

The subject of who is accountable for these reparations today and whether or not governments like Turkey are responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by their predecessors centuries ago must be attended to and given serious consideration. The issue is a legal one and may be dragged through bilateral negotiations in the coming years. This is an issue of International Law and won't be solved by the ICJ (International Court of Justice) alone.

Some argue the verdict ruled by the international court ruled on 3 Feb 2012 that Germany cannot be held liable for paying reparations to the descendants of victims of a massacre perpetrated during World War II in Italy. The verdict has implications far beyond Nazi-era war crimes, and was welcomed by countries far and wide.

There are far too many grey areas that need to be addressed, for example does the ICJ ruling close the door to victims of war crimes including slavery? Has the ruling become somewhat of a silent victory for the perpetrators of war crimes and the criminals who have escaped conviction or legal punishment? Will this ruling give a false sense of victory to these criminals, and perhaps enable them to commit crimes again?

“Once an idea is out and about, it can't be called back, silenced or erased. You can't contain it, any more than you could put the head of a dandelion back together after the wind has scattered its seeds.”

- P.W. Catanese

"What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." - Inception (Film)

...
Rockstar

Stafford, VA

#11 Dec 27, 2013
XAC wrote:
*** Succession of states is a theory and practice in international relations regarding the recognition and acceptance of a newly created sovereign state by other states, based on a perceived historical relationship the new state has with a prior state. The theory has its root in 19th century diplomacy.***

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_st...

Italy agreed to pay reparations of about $105 million to Greece, while Germany may not consider war reparations to Greece an issue anymore

Comment: I believe in the near future, we'll be seeing a trend of alliances forming to collectively deal with this matter, during which countries which have been suppressed under Ottoman tyranny ... will cooperate in joint action, each in their own self-interest, joining forces together for a common cause.

List of Countries who have suffered slavery under Ottoman tyranny:

Egypt, Greece, Bulgaria, Cyprus, North Cyprus, Romania, Moldova, Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Oman, Yemen, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Italy and Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocid...

"... Indigenous groups such as the Choctaw, Lakota, and Lambuth people have received reparations (and rightly so) for treaty violations that occurred before the emancipation of African Americans. Japanese Americans have received reparations for their inhumane incarceration in internment camps during WWII, as well as the Jews who received reparations after the Nuremberg trials.

Slavery and the slave trade are recognized by international human rights organizations, e.g., the United Nations, as crimes against humanity and as such there are no statutes of limitations against nations who are to pay for these crimes. "

The subject of who is accountable for these reparations today and whether or not governments like Turkey are responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by their predecessors centuries ago must be attended to and given serious consideration. The issue is a legal one and may be dragged through bilateral negotiations in the coming years. This is an issue of International Law and won't be solved by the ICJ (International Court of Justice) alone.

Some argue the verdict ruled by the international court ruled on 3 Feb 2012 that Germany cannot be held liable for paying reparations to the descendants of victims of a massacre perpetrated during World War II in Italy. The verdict has implications far beyond Nazi-era war crimes, and was welcomed by countries far and wide.

There are far too many grey areas that need to be addressed, for example does the ICJ ruling close the door to victims of war crimes including slavery? Has the ruling become somewhat of a silent victory for the perpetrators of war crimes and the criminals who have escaped conviction or legal punishment? Will this ruling give a false sense of victory to these criminals, and perhaps enable them to commit crimes again?

“Once an idea is out and about, it can't be called back, silenced or erased. You can't contain it, any more than you could put the head of a dandelion back together after the wind has scattered its seeds.”

- P.W. Catanese

"What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." - Inception (Film)

...
No such thing. Because, we sealed the deal with Lausanne agreement. Nice try. Have a nice day.
Rockstar

Stafford, VA

#12 Dec 27, 2013
XAC wrote:
Turkey: Reparations for Slavery under Ottoman Rule?

Like the descendants of enslaved people in the United States, should a proposal for the reparations for slavery be provided to ALL NATIONS which suffered under Ottoman rule?

Whereby some type of compensation could be proposed in a variety of forms, from individual monetary payments to land-based compensation schemes related to independence.

The Ottoman Empire was an empire which lasted 623 years, from 27 July 1299 to 1 November 1922, when the monarchy was abolished.

Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire : 1460's - 1908 = 448 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_O...

vs.

Slavery_in_the_United_States Slavery_in_the_United_States : 1620 - 1865 = 245 years of tyranny

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_U...

"It is said that Sultan Mehmed II established the first slave market in Constantinople in the 1460s and as late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire."

The German state no longer has ties to the former Nazi Party and yet, Germany to this day is still paying Israel and various Jewish based lobby groups for crimes perpetrated against the Jewish people during WWII by a regime which was dissolved in the last century. I was surprised to discover the following:

Germany is still paying off £50million of the 'reparations' demanded from it after the end of First World War.

The German Finance Agency, its authority on debt management, said tens of millions of euros are still being transferred to private individuals holding debenture bonds as agreed under the Treaty of Versailles signed on June 28, 1919."

Read More >>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12326...

The Treaty of Lausanne (July 24, 1923) was a peace treaty signed in Lausanne, Switzerland, that settled the Anatolian and East Thracian parts of the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire by annulment of the Treaty of Sèvres (1920) that was signed by the Istanbul-based Ottoman government; as the consequence of the Turkish War of Independence between the Allies of World War I and the Ankara-based Grand National Assembly of Turkey (Turkish national movement) led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. The treaty also led to the international recognition of the sovereignty of the new Republic of Turkey as the successor state of the defunct Ottoman Empire.[15]
The Treaty of Lausanne sealed the deal. Meaning, you get nothing. Have a nice day. Don't let the door hit you in the rear.
Democracy

Watseka, IL

#13 Dec 28, 2013
Why is Greece asking? Her ethnicity just being greek is enough to declare war.

I would love to hear the war drums.

I would also take the bets that Turkey is going to get a beating long over due.

My vote is for the greek men and I'm not saying that because I am
Hellenic I say that because I truly believe the greek men are
awesome in war!

Just look at Germany, Bulgaria and Italy it took 3 of them to take
down Hellas
Rockstar

Jessup, MD

#14 Dec 28, 2013
Democracy wrote:
Why is Greece asking? Her ethnicity just being greek is enough to declare war.

I would love to hear the war drums.

I would also take the bets that Turkey is going to get a beating long over due.

My vote is for the greek men and I'm not saying that because I am
Hellenic I say that because I truly believe the greek men are
awesome in war!

Just look at Germany, Bulgaria and Italy it took 3 of them to take
down Hellas
You will lose
Themistocles

Brisbane, Australia

#15 Dec 28, 2013
Rockstar wrote:
<quoted text>
You will lose
Wrong, Greece will win easily, Turks are useless
Rockstar

Laurel, MD

#16 Dec 28, 2013
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong, Greece will win easily, Turks are useless
Put your money where your mouth is
Themistocles

Brisbane, Australia

#17 Dec 28, 2013
Rockstar wrote:
<quoted text>
Put your money where your mouth is
And how would I collect my winnings from a bunch of defeated misfits?
Rockstar

Laurel, MD

#18 Dec 28, 2013
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>And how would I collect my winnings from a bunch of defeated misfits?
You win first. Your record is sad as fk already.
Themistocles

Brisbane, Australia

#19 Dec 29, 2013
Rockstar wrote:
<quoted text>
You win first. Your record is sad as fk already.
You sound like a Loser to me
TRNC

Mersin, Turkey

#20 Dec 29, 2013
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong, Greece will win easily, Turks are useless
you will lose greek r useless ..........kanreoprh......

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