Conversation on Comprehensive Immigration Reform Changes After Election

Nov 24, 2012 Full story: WNYC-AM New York 61

In his first post-election news conference, President Obama sounded optimistic talking about comprehensive immigration reform - an issue he hadn't addressed during his first term.

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freebird

Long Beach, CA

#24 Nov 24, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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You didn't even have a clue what I just said!
There were 7,500 jobs needing immediate fills and ONLY 270 Americans applied! You're a complete idiot. Had you read it instead of acting like an idiot construction worker you'd have understood what I was saying! I didn't ask that you agree with it, just that you read it. Or can construction workers read? Get a conscience while you're getting an education. Arrogance such ad yours is why we have the problem to begin with. Ass.
Did you read the whole article dumbazz?

"Republican leaders, mindful of the electorate’s demographic changes, now say they’re willing to discuss some type of path to legalization for some of the estimated 11 million people who are living in the United States illegally."

There's an estimated 11 million of these low lifes and they can't find 7,500 of them that want to do the farm labor. LOL!!! The farmers cry about this every f-ing year. Looks like the illegals don't want to do the work either, Azzhole!!!
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#25 Nov 24, 2012
Native wrote:
Free bird really this is the only response you had...! Fieldwork is hiring, try that then comment!
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I've done it dumbazz when I was a teenager. I've known a lot of White farm workers, so take that in your pipe and smoke it.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#26 Nov 24, 2012
ronnie wrote:
In traveling this week, in Nevada for Thanksgiving with Family, I felt alot like a Minority in a city near the Utah Nevada border. I also noticed when shopping in that same area, there were literally so few people that weren't Hispanic, it hit me pretty hard in the head.So many thousands of family's are here. Who's too know how many? I felt that the Sovereignty of our Country is over. Know one in our Government care anymore what Americans think. No reasoning with them. No compassion for the ultra poor Americans, that compete with this Nation for food, job's and now Christmas. In Utah, featured on local news, headlines reporting thousands of Mexican family's moving in together and needing food and utility help. I don't know if we are doomed, but I will never stop studying and speaking to people about what I've learned. But like Mag, I feel down about it.....
They are competing with us for Christmas? Seriously? They are going to take away Christmas?

Next time you are driving around Utah and see one of those good white people, try asking them about their thoughts on Christmas. In particular ask about the Immaculate Conception and if Mary was indeed a virgin. You may be surprised to learn that the Mexicans you disdain have more in common with you than the Mormons.
Avalaw3

Bronx, NY

#27 Nov 24, 2012
freebird wrote:
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Did you read the whole article dumbazz?
"Republican leaders, mindful of the electorate’s demographic changes, now say they’re willing to discuss some type of path to legalization for some of the estimated 11 million people who are living in the United States illegally."
There's an estimated 11 million of these low lifes and they can't find 7,500 of them that want to do the farm labor. LOL!!! The farmers cry about this every f-ing year. Looks like the illegals don't want to do the work either, Azzhole!!!
I feel embarrassed right this second that people like yourself are the norm in this country that I love, arrogance and uneducated. Please get an education and become learned. Then have your people reach mine and we can discuss your educated findings. If i had extra finances Id be willing to put them toward your schooling so you could spread your wings frim your isolated little shut in views. Good luck to you.
Anonymous

Brooklyn, NY

#28 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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I feel embarrassed right this second that people like yourself are the norm in this country that I love, arrogance and uneducated. Please get an education and become learned. Then have your people reach mine and we can discuss your educated findings. If i had extra finances Id be willing to put them toward your schooling so you could spread your wings frim your isolated little shut in views. Good luck to you.
everything you day is b.s. this country is a country of laws and they must be enforced so Cut the shit. Illegals must be deported and Americans won't accept nothing less than deportation. If We need any of them then start a real guest worker program.
Avalaw3

Bronx, NY

#29 Nov 25, 2012
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>everything you day is b.s. this country is a country of laws and they must be enforced so Cut the shit. Illegals must be deported and Americans won't accept nothing less than deportation. If We need any of them then start a real guest worker program.
Brother of Freebird with unquestionable intolerance? You're better than a human being Hugh?
Anonymous

Brooklyn, NY

#30 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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Brother of Freebird with unquestionable intolerance? You're better than a human being Hugh?
so I guess We should just pass amnesty because it will make you happy ha?
Matt

Englewood, NJ

#31 Nov 25, 2012
They wont pass CIR..The cheap labor is a gold mine for this country..Passing an amnesty attached CIR means wages going up plus 15 million undocumented stepping up to the middle class form poverty line..Lawyers also would face a shortage in fradulent couples to charge $5G just to submit bunch of papers to the immigration and companies wouldnt be able to keep their H1 holders for decades anymore..However, they will take up on this debate and harsh arguements will take place to trick Lationos into that..Dems got the votes already and they always need this issue to play around..Explotation is profitable for big guys so why they would end it?

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#32 Nov 25, 2012
Matt wrote:
They wont pass CIR..The cheap labor is a gold mine for this country..Passing an amnesty attached CIR means wages going up plus 15 million undocumented stepping up to the middle class form poverty line..Lawyers also would face a shortage in fradulent couples to charge $5G just to submit bunch of papers to the immigration and companies wouldnt be able to keep their H1 holders for decades anymore..However, they will take up on this debate and harsh arguements will take place to trick Lationos into that..Dems got the votes already and they always need this issue to play around..Explotation is profitable for big guys so why they would end it?
It gives the dems a chance to get even more votes in the future, as the new crop of illegals will inevitably storm in, hoping to get their hands on freebies while they undercut the newly amnstied illegals, who will end up in the unemployment line. They will become even more dependent upon our more than willing government. The joke IS on Hispanics who think they have gotten the upperhand, but in reality will only find that they will be shoved to the curb for the new crop that comes in making their unwarranted demands. The vicious cycle will only continue until this country folds under the giant sucking sound of the impending dependency, with nobody having the ability to pay for all the freebies and new social programs.
too funny

Seattle, WA

#33 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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Aliens walk the straight and narrow and most have less criminal tendencies than legals because they fear deportation. Thank God America is finally waking up to the fact that nobody should control who can and can't live in a "free" democracy. That should be saved for Communist countries, not the land of the "free and the brave". By outcast ing specific sects of society we are saying they aren't good enough to live here. We Americans need to get off our damn high horse of supremacy and act what we preach, acceptance of diversity. We are no better or worse than any other human being.
Straight and narrow? Let's see:

1. They illegally enter the country.
2. They use fraudulent documents to obtain work.
3. They work for cash under the table illegally.

Straight and narrow? Don't think so.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#34 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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Aliens walk the straight and narrow and most have less criminal tendencies than legals because they fear deportation. Thank God America is finally waking up to the fact that nobody should control who can and can't live in a "free" democracy. That should be saved for Communist countries, not the land of the "free and the brave". By outcast ing specific sects of society we are saying they aren't good enough to live here. We Americans need to get off our damn high horse of supremacy and act what we preach, acceptance of diversity. We are no better or worse than any other human being.
They may "walk the straight and narrow" in their home countries but the minute they cross our borders in any way other than what we as a nation consider a lawful manner or overstay their visas in what we consider an unlawful way then they no longer "walk the straight and narrow" any more, they have committed a crime. That is illegal, undocumented, or anything else you want to call it.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#35 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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I feel embarrassed right this second that people like yourself are the norm in this country that I love, arrogance and uneducated. Please get an education and become learned. Then have your people reach mine and we can discuss your educated findings. If i had extra finances Id be willing to put them toward your schooling so you could spread your wings frim your isolated little shut in views. Good luck to you.
ROTFLMAO!!! Maybe you should read your own post before you talk about someone elses education. Just sayin!!!

I love it when a person can't rebut what I had to say, so they attack my education.
Magadala

Kingston, WA

#36 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
@Immigrationshow: Biggest challenge to immigration bill may be guest workers - Charlotte Observer http://t.co/eLbJoQhU
Read this article where 7,500 workers were needed and 270 Americans applied! Then tell me how illegals are taking our jobs Freebird!
I read your article...same old, same old. They can't seem to get enough workers because ANY illegal alien who can do better, does! Illegal aliens don't won't to work in the fields either!!! Farmers are having a hard time getting illegal alien workers because the workers are taking YOUR jobs!!! Only the extremely low level (and I mean low) illegal alien works in the fields. Farmers were really put out when the obam did the DACA thing! It's all politics!!!

What we need is a guest worker program like Saudi Arabia, where you don't bring your families and squat...and you live in your foreigner compound, not with the regular citizens. Racist you call me?! Perhaps, but I do know that anything less will cause them to bribe and scheme for more...and as they do today!!!
Magadala

Kingston, WA

#37 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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I feel embarrassed right this second that people like yourself are the norm in this country that I love, arrogance and uneducated. Please get an education and become learned. Then have your people reach mine and we can discuss your educated findings. If i had extra finances Id be willing to put them toward your schooling so you could spread your wings frim your isolated little shut in views. Good luck to you.
"...spread your wings frim(sic) your isolate..." LOL Pot calling the kettle black!

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#38 Nov 25, 2012
Magadala wrote:
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I read your article...same old, same old. They can't seem to get enough workers because ANY illegal alien who can do better, does! Illegal aliens don't won't to work in the fields either!!! Farmers are having a hard time getting illegal alien workers because the workers are taking YOUR jobs!!! Only the extremely low level (and I mean low) illegal alien works in the fields. Farmers were really put out when the obam did the DACA thing! It's all politics!!!
What we need is a guest worker program like Saudi Arabia, where you don't bring your families and squat...and you live in your foreigner compound, not with the regular citizens. Racist you call me?! Perhaps, but I do know that anything less will cause them to bribe and scheme for more...and as they do today!!!
You're a smart one, cunning too...

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#40 Nov 25, 2012
They just don't understand the word "NO!" do they?

This subject is soooo freakin' dead that I can't remember the last time I heard it discussed in a group of people other than illegal aliens, politicians or activists.

We have far more important things to do than listen to the whiny little lawbreakers whimpers.

We need to fix the fiscal mess we are in and I DO hear that talked about by many people.

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#41 Nov 25, 2012
b4its2late wrote:
<quoted text>What kind of jobs are these 7500 jobs, and what is the pay? Is there a link somewhere
Ag jobs, minimum wage and to laws don't apply. Too bad soo sad...
Better wagesand more workers to cut the hours is what the problem is but they don't want to bother with managing all of those workers and no way will they pay a reasonable wage for the work demanded. It is sooo much easier to cry to the government and have them solve all their problems.

Ha! Now go listen to the farmers at the coffee shop complain about the lazy welfare rats, too funny!

Not my problem...
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#42 Nov 25, 2012
Avalaw3 wrote:
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Aliens walk the straight and narrow and most have less criminal tendencies than legals because they fear deportation. Thank God America is finally waking up to the fact that nobody should control who can and can't live in a "free" democracy. That should be saved for Communist countries, not the land of the "free and the brave". By outcast ing specific sects of society we are saying they aren't good enough to live here. We Americans need to get off our damn high horse of supremacy and act what we preach, acceptance of diversity. We are no better or worse than any other human being.
Look at all of the illegal aliens that walk the straight and narrow. This list is most wanted for murder/violent crimes but note the birth places. While there are a few that were born in the U.S. most are not U.S. citizens.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/murders/ @@wanted-group-listing
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#43 Nov 25, 2012
I should say by birth. The actual country of citizenship is not listed. I wonder why that is?
Cat74

Palatine, IL

#44 Nov 25, 2012
I like your style dfwDude. I had begun to wonder what had happened to America. How can the election get stolen right before our eyes? I have watched Illinois Democrats steal elections, but this, this was something. This is an example of Teachers Union producing the half-witted.

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