House Members Negotiate A Proposal On Immigration

Jan 30, 2013 Full story: CBS Local 191

A group of a half-dozen House members, equally divided between Democrats and Republicans, is nearing completion of wide-ranging immigration legislation similar to proposals by Senate negotiators and President Barack Obama, including a pathway to legal immigration status for 11 million illegal immigrants already in the U.S. The group intends to ... (more)

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jonfrank91

Bergenfield, NJ

#21 Jan 30, 2013
mcfarlen wrote:
<quoted text>
Some off that people may have the govermnent support..but i know some asian illegal immigrants pay tax with id tax..and cant get benefit from that..they cant get medicaid.they cant get wellfare.they cant get foodstamp..cause they can only pay tax but cant get benefit..and they dont have ssn ...when they sick they pay to go doctor..
My aunt is in that same boat. Its depressing to see her struggle so much. She just wanted to give her son to bright future and she did. She said quote "as long as her son get through she is willing to go back to her home country, if it comes to that". She overstayed her welcome while, but is in the post decision activity for i-130 since 2009. Hopefully she can get her green card here and pay a fine.
mcfarlen

United States

#22 Jan 30, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>They have to learn English first.... your're outta luck.
I agrre with u.of couse they need to learn engglish first!!!
juan

Lodi, CA

#23 Jan 30, 2013
mcfarlen wrote:
<quoted text>
I agrre with u.of couse they need to learn engglish first!!!
no u idiots because them they will be macking on youre wife or daughter see how stupid u guys are thats like giving us ammo
Befree

San Jose, CA

#24 Jan 30, 2013
Let's play hockey,,,
Nanuq

Marietta, GA

#25 Jan 30, 2013
freebird wrote:
<quoted text>
They have all this money to spend because the government supports their anchor rats.
and you are a filthy scum for calling an American citizen a rat... I bet you are a prolife idiot who hates living children ... You should be ashamed of yourself

Since: Jan 13

Bloomfield, NJ

#26 Jan 30, 2013
mcfarlen wrote:
We know that illegal immigrant break the law to come here accross the border.but we need to blame our government first .the government know this happen long times a go..and border its practically open...if we secure our border this not gonna be happen..and i cant blame illegal immigrant 100% wrong..if at home i dont have anything to eat and feed my family and see a paradise land who open .i will be jump and run to that land....its human nature ....i.m just not againts and or approve this idea.....just hope we can get resolve from this problem...and deportation for 11 million people its not the smart way .and way imposible..
I've been waiting for such a comment from an American for a while now.

Since: Jan 13

Bloomfield, NJ

#27 Jan 30, 2013
RUFUS wrote:
we dont need this money. we dont want these people here. this is going to cause an explosion with the american public. this country is being destroyed from within. the politicians may need better security if they do this. their actions dont represent what most citizens desire...enforce our existing law..its not broken..just politically correct failure to enforce the law. once this land is watered down by the third world poor we will be closer to seeing this republic fall to terrorism we cannot root out and destroy. am so afraid our kids will see the demise of the US.
If you don't need these people then why you allowed them to come, work and live here in the first place ??? Do you think the government didn't know about crossing the south border and visa overstaying ?
Yuppp

Hayward, CA

#28 Jan 30, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
30 million americans out of work and our politicians want to allow 40 million illegals to work here.!!
Hang all congressmen
Are you one of the 30 million Americans out if work??? I know of a place where you get hire the same day you apply... Buth, you have to work long hours on your feet unloading heavy boxes from containers coming from China, you have to deal with managers constantly screaming at you to work faster, work under in an unsafe environment and don't mind if you see some of your coworkers killed and injured by heavy containers, and all this for $8 dollars an hour. Most American citizen who worked there did not show up the next day. I wonder why??? But let me know if you or someone you know wants the job.
dwg

Everett, MA

#29 Jan 30, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Giving amnesty to illegal invaders makes a mockery of our legal system.
your system at 1986 do not have computer to control employment abuse, and other.

Dwg

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#30 Jan 30, 2013
mcfarlen wrote:
We know that illegal immigrant break the law to come here accross the border.but we need to blame our government first .the government know this happen long times a go..and border its practically open...if we secure our border this not gonna be happen..and i cant blame illegal immigrant 100% wrong..if at home i dont have anything to eat and feed my family and see a paradise land who open .i will be jump and run to that land....its human nature ....i.m just not againts and or approve this idea.....just hope we can get resolve from this problem...and deportation for 11 million people its not the smart way .and way imposible..
it would be rough to try and deport that many,yet it would be simple to make life so hard on them here going home would be a relief to them as it should be. enforcing the laws we already have would make it rough on all involved,you are right it "all"fals on the gov for failures on this for decades.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#31 Jan 30, 2013
"But polls show Americans increasingly supportive of the approach at the same time many GOP leaders believe that the party should confront the immigration issue or risk continued losses in national elections. Obama won an overwhelming majority of Latino and Asian voters in November, which helped seal his victory."

What polls are they talking about? Americans don't support this. Republicans gave illegal aliens amnesty and the next election they received even less votes.

"Obama won an overwhelming majority of Latino and Asian voters in November, which helped seal his victory."

The Hispanic was less than 10% of the total vote. Now they are lumping Asians into the mix.

Becareful, when we have a all democratic government what happens when the money drys up? No more social programs?

57% of Mexican aliens are now on welfare. If there is a amnesty what number will this move up to. Even after all of this, they will keep coming with no enforcement for even a larger amnesty in 20 years or so.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#32 Jan 30, 2013
Befree wrote:
It is about time. These people realized giving legal papers to illegal people would bring them lot of money to the economy.
Driver licenses for 12 million folks. Equals to 420 millions dollars on just the licenses. Car insurance $600.00 average per year 7.2 billion dollars.
Trip to Mexico once a year. 6.0 billion dollars a year. They would be really blind to not pass an immigration reform.
57% of Mexicans are on welfare. Soon there will be more people in the wagon then pulling it.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#33 Jan 30, 2013
The house will kill this or include things like closing down birthright citizenship.
dwg

Everett, MA

#34 Jan 31, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
The house will kill this or include things like closing down birthright citizenship.
Or wait 2014 seats, go SOX , go DEMs

Dwg

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#36 Jan 31, 2013
Befree wrote:
It is about time. These people realized giving legal papers to illegal people would bring them lot of money to the economy.
Driver licenses for 12 million folks. Equals to 420 millions dollars on just the licenses. Car insurance $600.00 average per year 7.2 billion dollars.
Trip to Mexico once a year. 6.0 billion dollars a year. They would be really blind to not pass an immigration reform.

"SOURCE" or "LINK"?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#37 Jan 31, 2013
Open Letter to John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner,Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham &
Susan Collins

11/9/2012

The gentleman & Lady I've listed above are advocating amnesty for the 12-20 million (wag) illegal aliens in our country . I strongly disagree with their position for the following reasons.

In 1986 President Reagan signed off on a bill granting amnesty to 1 1/2- 2 Million illegal aliens, today I wonder how many thousands more of their family members are here now because of the current Chain
Immigration policy in place?

In the past 26 years since President Reagan signed that bill, because of politicians from both parties like Congressman John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez ,Senator Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins who have none nothing to help control both of our borders, except to stick their finger in the dike to appease the voters at home and not offend special interest groups ,12-20 Million more illegal aliens (wag) have entered our country and now because the finger caper didn't work, their solution to the problem is amnesty.

The message that people like John Gibson, Sean Hannity , Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins are sending to immigrants around the world is that if you can enter our country illegally without getting caught and hide out for another 26 years, then sooner or later another amnesty will be granted.

Case in point, a large number of American Hispanic voters including Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez & Jorge Ramos have again rally their support for amnesty, and are using their vote to blackmail the Democrats into granting it. My question is what are those Hispanic Americans basing their support on?

My answer is it's based on the fact that a large number of the illegal aliens are also Hispanics which would appear to make their support based on race.( Google some of Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez's & Jorge Ramos comments on the subject).

Now if I say I don't support amnesty because it's wrong then those same people yell I'm a "Racist".

We currently have no control of illegal immigration into our country, yet continue to allow in around 900,000 legal immigrations a year, and now John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner, Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins want to add 12-20 Million illegal aliens (wag) to our population (315 Million), which doesn't include the millions more of their family members that will come here legally under the chain migration policy...

My question to John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins that support amnesty is how many more immigrants will our country hold, and how many more legal & illegal ones entering our country will make you happy?

Just because you can walk across our borders or swim / wade across a river doesn't give someone a place at the head of the line here. The line for those people starts inside the border of their own country.

To compound the problem, under the 14 Amendment we have around 300,00 new American Citizens a year who are born in our country to illegal Hispanic women, and yes John, Sean, Jorge, John B., Luis, Lindsey & Susan a lot of them walk or swim/ wade across our borders just to have those new American babies..

My closing comment is granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens is not fair to immigrants waiting in their own country to enter here the legal way and violating our immigration laws should not be rewarded with American Citizenship, it's worth more than that!

The inscription at the base of the Statute of Liberty concludes, "I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" It says nothing about welcoming people who bypass our entry doors by climbing walls, swimming rivers and sneaking under border fences.

Dave
Rico in the SGV

West Covina, CA

#38 Jan 31, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
"But polls show Americans increasingly supportive of the approach at the same time many GOP leaders believe that the party should confront the immigration issue or risk continued losses in national elections. Obama won an overwhelming majority of Latino and Asian voters in November, which helped seal his victory."
What polls are they talking about? Americans don't support this. Republicans gave illegal aliens amnesty and the next election they received even less votes.
"Obama won an overwhelming majority of Latino and Asian voters in November, which helped seal his victory."
The Hispanic was less than 10% of the total vote. Now they are lumping Asians into the mix.
Becareful, when we have a all democratic government what happens when the money drys up? No more social programs?
57% of Mexican aliens are now on welfare. If there is a amnesty what number will this move up to. Even after all of this, they will keep coming with no enforcement for even a larger amnesty in 20 years or so.
If illegal aliens become citizens, they will in fact be subject to the welfare reform laws that were passed under Bill Clinton so stop the fear mongering that these future citizens will forever be on welfare.

They'll be subject to a life time max of 48-60 months and then get kicked off welfare like all citizens do.

So I rebuke your reply that welfare will go up as the time limits will make the number go down.
Rico in the SGV

West Covina, CA

#39 Jan 31, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
"SOURCE" or "LINK"?
Quit tap dancing. You're very capable of searching the web for all the Obama, Mexican and Hispanic hate and SPAM the crap out of this place but you seem to get amnesia when it comes to searching info that contradicts your SPAM.

How convenient.

“"All Lies Lead to the Truth"”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#40 Jan 31, 2013
"....Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a member of the Senate negotiating group on immigration who was a House member until his election in November, said he’s been in touch with former colleagues in the House on the issue.

“There are some who aren’t wild about doing any of this, but even those that aren’t wild about it are ready to see this in the rearview mirror,” he said."

So they are going to pass "reform" because their just sick of hearing about it?

I been out of touch on this issue for sometime now, but i still pretty sure any legislation with this guy name Reps. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois; is going to be a steaming pile of __. I think he would be the guy in the closed door meeting gutting every piece of enforcement put in front of him; and all the while crying about hows hes Hispanic and nobody "likes" him/them.
Truth Speaker

Staten Island, NY

#41 Jan 31, 2013
juan wrote:
<quoted text> hey come on WHO WHO WHO
Juan, your back is wet. Go dry it off. Like most Mexicans, you are ignorant human garbage,

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