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Senators unveil bipartisan immigration bill

There are 152 comments on the Reuters story from Apr 15, 2013, titled Senators unveil bipartisan immigration bill. In it, Reuters reports that:

A bipartisan group of senators on Tuesday unveiled long-awaited landmark legislation to remove the threat of deportation for millions of illegal immigrants and give them an opportunity to eventually become U.S. citizens.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#68 Apr 17, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, ok, so we have people breaking the federal wage laws, because the illegals first broke the law crossing our border. Quid pro quo.
Exactly.

That's why the GOPasaurs and their big business buddies don't want any immigration reform. They WANT the cheap labor who they can pay slave wages without any benefits.

Now you're getting it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#69 Apr 17, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
LIST OF TRAITORS
Over the weekend, we came four votes away from the United States Senate giving our Constitutional rights over to the United Nations. In a 53-46 vote the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
The Statement of Purpose from the bill read:.To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration,would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms.
The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo.
Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.
So the US will join Iran, North Korea, & Syria in opposing the Arms Trade Treaty?

Yep, that tells you all you need to know about the GOPasaurs in the US Senate.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#70 Apr 17, 2013
So $2,000 in penalties on each of the 11 million illegals =$22 billion to the US treasury.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#71 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the GOPasaurs are screwed either way.
I couldn't be happier!
So you prefer a single party system. Why not just move to a country like Cuba or North Korea where what you want already exists?
I like most Americans prefer a multiple party system. In fact I think we could use at least one more political party. A true conservitive party that does not want to control the personal lives of citizens like the right wing Republicans and left wing Democrats do.
People like you need to have one party and one authoritarian leader to tell you what to do and think.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#72 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
So $2,000 in penalties on each of the 11 million illegals =$22 billion to the US treasury.
Our government spent that while you were typing.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#73 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
So $2,000 in penalties on each of the 11 million illegals =$22 billion to the US treasury.
thats if and if is a huge word when dealing with illegal aliens who just by being here proves they are no honest respectable people,they are in fact dishonest criminals unfit to be trusted otherwise they would never have broken our laws and continue to do it every single day they are here.

this guy points out the indisputable facts on this issue.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sophists-run-ou...

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#74 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Possibly true, but only if the Dems are successful in getting significant gun control and an amnesty bill passed. But the GOPasaurs aren't allowing the Dems to "keep doing what they are doing".
The GOPasaurs will block any gun control & immigration reform, including logical steps which a majority of Americans support.
The Dems will successfully blame the GOPasaurs for once again failing to do ANYTHING.
In reviewing recent news outlets, the liberals themselves do not have the votes. Only 38 of the 53 will vote for the liberal anti constitutional bill.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#75 Apr 17, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
So you prefer a single party system. Why not just move to a country like Cuba or North Korea where what you want already exists?
I like most Americans prefer a multiple party system. In fact I think we could use at least one more political party. A true conservitive party that does not want to control the personal lives of citizens like the right wing Republicans and left wing Democrats do.
People like you need to have one party and one authoritarian leader to tell you what to do and think.
We have dozens of political parties to choose from, but because the system is rigged, it's primarily a 2-party system.

Still works better than the chaos of most European governments where they have to get coalitions of 3 or 4 parties just to be able to form a majority and attempt to govern.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#76 Apr 17, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
<quoted text>
thats if and if is a huge word when dealing with illegal aliens who just by being here proves they are no honest respectable people,they are in fact dishonest criminals unfit to be trusted otherwise they would never have broken our laws and continue to do it every single day they are here.
this guy points out the indisputable facts on this issue.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/sophists-run-ou...
Well they only get their green card and eventual citizenship IF they pay the fine & back taxes.

I'll bet most will come up with the cash, because citizenship is why most of them came here in the first place.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#77 Apr 17, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>In reviewing recent news outlets, the liberals themselves do not have the votes. Only 38 of the 53 will vote for the liberal anti constitutional bill.
I'll wait and see what the actual vote tally ends up being, assuming it even gets to a vote.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#78 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Well they only get their green card and eventual citizenship IF they pay the fine & back taxes.
I'll bet most will come up with the cash, because citizenship is why most of them came here in the first place.
do you buy ocean front property in arizona?

letting them have a chance of anything is a mistake,and whatever funds they come up with to pay this will be stolen from a citizen,being they had to steal the job or welfare check or sell dope.

fact is we have already seen that those pushing this have never been honest on any parts than end with illegal aliens having to do something or border security, if they say it it is a given to be a lie.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#79 Apr 17, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
<quoted text>
do you buy ocean front property in arizona?
Knock it off! I am trying to sell him my bridge in Brooklyn.
chicagonut

Palm Springs, CA

#80 Apr 17, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know how illegals contribute. They do all the work Americans don't want to do, for slave wages. The question is how do you contribute?
Really? And just what jobs won't Americans do for a fair wage? Even for crop picking there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers.

Are you all for lining these greedy employers pockets with more profit from their illegal slave labor while they break the law by not hiring legal or ciitzen workers?
chicagonut

Palm Springs, CA

#81 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Well they only get their green card and eventual citizenship IF they pay the fine & back taxes.
I'll bet most will come up with the cash, because citizenship is why most of them came here in the first place.
And at what cost to the taxpayer to process them and monitor all these things to make sure they stay in compliance? We're talking about our government here that can't even keep track of visa overstayers.

What about the 23 million Americans out of work? We should allow illegals to remain here and retain jobs that Americans need and compete for what is left? This is devistating to our blue-collared American workers. Once made citizens they will be able to tap into our welfare coffers also and we can't even take care of our own people now because we are too broke to do so. Yeah, let's let 12 million illegals accellerate the problem. Yeah, that makes sense....not!
chicagonut

Palm Springs, CA

#82 Apr 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly.
That's why the GOPasaurs and their big business buddies don't want any immigration reform. They WANT the cheap labor who they can pay slave wages without any benefits.
Now you're getting it.
LOL, what a hoot! If you don't think there are any Democrat businessmen that aren't doing the same then you aren't dealing in reality. Pelosi hires illegal immigrants to work in her vineyards just for one example. Pot, kettle, black! The Democrats also have another agenda and that is to make citizens out of them because they will vote Democrat. Look at your own party for who the anti-American POS are. Now they want to amnesty them with 23 million Americans out of work????
PAK nonoh palembang

Indonesia

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#87 Apr 18, 2013
SI SE PUEDE wrote:
<quoted text>

I would tell you don't waste more time pasting your BS here.

Nobody care about those racist comments and even the Immigration bill was unveiled and it's going to be law by the end of summer,so you and the rest of your bigot herd get ready for a more fair and smart immigration system and a even more demographically diverse and productive America!
Now if you were an American citizen instead of a illegal alien High School dropout from Mexico, you would have read this before you started whining!

Amendment I

[Freedom of religion, speech, of the press, and right of petition.]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Read more: Amendments to the Constitution of the United States | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0749825.html#i...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#88 Apr 18, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
<quoted text>

Sorry to disappoint you,but most of those services aren't used by hardworking undocumented workers and if they do,it's when they can't find a job,because they are not provided a work permit.
"undocumented workers" LOL!!!

Illegal aliens don't need those programs when they can steal "BILLIONS" from the American Tax payers!!

Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM

By James Walsh

On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."

No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.

******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data.******

The Treasury report found that "One common type of
fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."

Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#89 Apr 18, 2013
Definitions:

Alien, Immigrant, Illegal Alien, Undocumented Immigrant

These related terms are often used in deliberately confusing and conflicting ways. Here is a set of definitions that will help you sort out the
difference.

IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a
person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the
U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is
upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and
procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to
reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country
or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws
and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner --
a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to
our country.

ILLEGAL ALIEN: An "illegal alien" is a foreigner who (1) does not owe
allegiance to our country; and (2) who has violated our laws and customs in
establishing residence in our country. He or she is therefore a criminal
under applicable U.S. laws.


The term "illegal alien" is used by U.S. citizens who believe that non-citizens entering our country must comply with our immigration laws.


The term "illegal alien" is predicated upon U.S. immigration law which requires foreigners entering the U.S. to comply with our country's rules and laws regarding entry into, and residence within, our country.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT: The term "undocumented immigrant" is an oxymoron (the parts conflict). An immigrant is synonymous with "permanent legal
resident." The old term for the documentauthorizing a permanent legal resident is "green card." The term "undocumented" is derived from the accurate term "undocumented aliens" who are often called "border crossers." Proper terms are "illegal alien" or "undocumented alien" but not "undocumented immigrant." Although not commonly used, the term "documented alien" accurately refers to foreign nationals who have an unexpired non-immigrant visa such as H-1B.


Most U.S. citizens do not use the term "undocumented immigrant" and prefer, instead, the more descriptive and accurate term "illegal alien".


******The term "undocumented immigrant" is used by those who believe in "open borders", i.e., non-regulation of foreigners entering into and assuming residence in the U.S., including even those foreigners who owe allegiance to a foreign government and/or who may intend harm to the U.S.******

http://www.adversity.net/Terms_Definitions/TE...

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