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Dec 25, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: USA Today

Arizona will grant driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants allowed to remain in the country as family members of military personnel.

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Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#1 Dec 25, 2013
The fact that you are illegally in the country should void any legal issues. You're building on a rotten foundation.
Billy Ringo

Forest Hills, NY

#2 Dec 25, 2013
Obviously, the Cons in Aryanzona are reading the polls - and seeing their favorables dropping quicker than Bristol's drawers.
Holla Isabella

New York, NY

#3 Dec 25, 2013
What do you call an illegal alien walking piece of shit with an AZ license? An illegal alien driving piece of shit.
tomin cali

United States

#4 Dec 26, 2013
making a big mistake arizona. give an inch and they never stop,so there is no reason to give an illegal alien anything other than the boot.
Jesus Malverde

United States

#5 Dec 26, 2013
It is ironic to us, the same xenophobes and nativists that whine and snivel about immigration laws not being enforced, are the same ones who whine and snivel when a government agency actually follows the law.

The fact is federal law has mandated that undocumented family members of active military, as well as the DACA, are, by definition, accepted as having a lawful presence in the US. They may not be full citizenship but the law is clear: Their presence in the US is legal in the eyes of the law. And as such, enjoy the rights afforded those that have a "legal presence".
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#6 Dec 26, 2013
So one member of a family of illegals enlist's in our Military and next thing you find out, every member of the entire town, in Mexihell, claims to be his relative? So they break into Arizona, make up some BS story and suddenly they're entitled to DL's. What kind of logic does that make? Arizona know's only to well chain migration means the whole town shows up for the freebie. There no such thing as an individual deserving special treatment when it comes to this bunch. Give one inch...the whole damn country shows up...

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#7 Dec 26, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
It is ironic to us, the same xenophobes and nativists that whine and snivel about immigration laws not being enforced, are the same ones who whine and snivel when a government agency actually follows the law.
The fact is federal law has mandated that undocumented family members of active military, as well as the DACA, are, by definition, accepted as having a lawful presence in the US. They may not be full citizenship but the law is clear: Their presence in the US is legal in the eyes of the law. And as such, enjoy the rights afforded those that have a "legal presence".
DACA is not lawful presence, it is deferred deportation by policy only and is in direct conflict with federal law. It does not make anyone legal.

"The fact is federal law has mandated that undocumented family members of active military, as well as the DACA, are, by definition, accepted as having a lawful presence in the US."

The President is in the executive branch, the EB does not make the laws any law, the Legislative which is the congress does. Again policy is not law.

These DACA illegal aliens can still be deported, any non US citizen can. When they commit a felony, cause death by auto, leave the scene of a accident all of which are felonies, they will be deported. You think if a illegal alien causes a accident that they will wait around until the police show up? They are still illegal in this country and waiting around could mean prison time and deportation. If they leave the scene, that's a felony plus the accident.

I just read a story today that a Mexican women was given life in prison for her 6th DUI! How stupid was that? She just could not stop drinking. Giving illegal aliens a license is fast tracking many to deportation because they just can't follow the rules.

Don't believe everything your fellow illegal aliens tell you.

The Mexican community already has a problem with alcoholism now some states want to issue them drivers licenses? How many Americans will this kill?
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#8 Dec 27, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
It is ironic to us, the same xenophobes and nativists that whine and snivel about immigration laws not being enforced, are the same ones who whine and snivel when a government agency actually follows the law.
The fact is federal law has mandated that undocumented family members of active military, as well as the DACA, are, by definition, accepted as having a lawful presence in the US. They may not be full citizenship but the law is clear: Their presence in the US is legal in the eyes of the law. And as such, enjoy the rights afforded those that have a "legal presence".
The words xenophobe and nativist have no place in the issue of illegal immigration. One isn't either of them for expecting our immigration laws to be respected and enforced but then you defenders of illegal aliens know that, don't you? It's that all you've got is unwarranted name labeling of those of us who are law abiding Americans.

There is no such thing as an "undocumented" either. Just more of the lies by your side of this issue. Illegal aliens are not allowed to join our military so WTH are you talking about?

Obama passed DACA without permission of congress so his "law" is null and void.

I have to laugh at your accusations of those of us who object to laws being passed in that manner as if we are hypocrites and yet you're ok with them but didn't give a damn about our immigration laws that are/have been in place in the first place. Now just who is the hypocrite here?
Billy Ringo

New York, NY

#9 Dec 27, 2013
WTF does all this blabber have to do with drivers licenses in Aryanzona?
Ted Nugent NRA

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Dec 27, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>DACA is not lawful presence, it is deferred deportation by policy only and is in direct conflict with federal law. It does not make anyone legal. DACA is not lawful presence, it is deferred deportation by policy only and is in direct conflict with federal law. It does not make anyone legal.
Never said DACA made anyone "legal" (if in fact you mean a legal citizen). Yes, it is a deferred action against certain individuals who meet a very strict criterion. For the 2 yr deferred period, which can be renewed, those individuals are not "illegals immigrants", but rather are in a quasi, and hitherto undefined status. But the fact is their presence is not legally considered "illegal" so absent that (as the SCOTUS and state courts have found), makes their presence legal.
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
DACA is not lawful presence, it is deferred deportation by policy only and is in direct conflict with federal law. It does not make anyone legal.
"The fact is federal law has mandated that undocumented family members of active military, as well as the DACA, are, by definition, accepted as having a lawful presence in the US."
The President is in the executive branch, the EB does not make the laws any law, the Legislative which is the congress does. Again policy is not law.
True, except in this case, there is no precedent for this situation. History is full of such situations. And it has been left up to the courts to make the determination but for the time being, the situation is what it is: The presence of DACA is not strictly illegal and therefore absent that, their presence is legal.
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text> These DACA illegal aliens can still be deported, any non US citizen can. When they commit a felony, cause death by auto, leave the scene of a accident all of which are felonies, they will be deported. You think if a illegal alien causes a accident that they will wait around until the police show up? They are still illegal in this country and waiting around could mean prison time and deportation. If they leave the scene, that's a felony plus the accident.
Being DACA is not a precursor to committing a serious crime. Your supercilious assertion is tantamount to saying all blacks are born criminals therefore they should be locked up before they commit the crime.
Jesus Malverde

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Dec 27, 2013
Sorry, that was my post not Mr. Nugent's. The trappings of using a public wi-fi. LOL

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Dec 27, 2013
Ted Nugent NRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said DACA made anyone "legal" (if in fact you mean a legal citizen). Yes, it is a deferred action against certain individuals who meet a very strict criterion. For the 2 yr deferred period, which can be renewed, those individuals are not "illegals immigrants", but rather are in a quasi, and hitherto undefined status. But the fact is their presence is not legally considered "illegal" so absent that (as the SCOTUS and state courts have found), makes their presence legal.
<quoted text>
True, except in this case, there is no precedent for this situation. History is full of such situations. And it has been left up to the courts to make the determination but for the time being, the situation is what it is: The presence of DACA is not strictly illegal and therefore absent that, their presence is legal.
<quoted text>
Being DACA is not a precursor to committing a serious crime. Your supercilious assertion is tantamount to saying all blacks are born criminals therefore they should be locked up before they commit the crime.
Maybe i misunderstood this:

"but the law is clear: Their presence in the US is legal in the eyes of the law."

"those individuals are not "illegals immigrants", but rather are in a quasi, and hitherto undefined status. But the fact is their presence is not legally considered "illegal" so absent that (as the SCOTUS and state courts have found), makes their presence legal."

Again i'am under the impression that congress is the only body that can make anyone legal or a citizen. Being from the Legislative Branch that makes the laws and not the Executive Branch that is suppose to enforce the laws.

If their presence is legal why aren't they being issued greencards? Because as i said before they are illegal aliens which the President in direct conflict with federal law issued a policy that illegal aliens can not be deported for being here illegally, which is insane. This does not make them legal or change their status. As soon as they commit a felony, they are out of here.

DACA puts off their deportation to a later date which i can not understand, federal law says these illegal aliens can not be here.

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Dec 27, 2013
"Being DACA is not a precursor to committing a serious crime. Your supercilious assertion is tantamount to saying all blacks are born criminals therefore they should be locked up before they commit the crime."

Being illegal in a country is the first step, these illegal aliens have no allegiance to this country they also have divided loyalties as do their parents. Now you have to live, work and make money. The crimes they commit just snowball adding to the burden tax payers have to pay. These illegal aliens are citizens of another country. They are not to be trusted because as soon as a better deal comes along they will throw the US over and be gone just like the country that they are citizens of. It's about them and what they can get.

"People want to know why America is slipping in international test score rankings. Hell, were slipping in every category from technological advancement to quality of life. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that were diluting our citizenry with the cast-offs from third-world nations. Its kind of like the plot for Idiocracy in which the dumbing down of a society has disastrous consequences for each generation to follow.

Exceptional countries dont remain so by filling its borders with unremarkable people. Not only does our immigration policy send us toward a less-than-super power status, it is sure to rob us of our cultural heritage, as immigrants become the majority. Belgium gets it with their new tough standards. Too bad our leaders cant see the same thing."

http://downtrend.com/71superb/want-immigratio...

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#14 Dec 27, 2013
Remember, there will never be a shortage of illegal aliens to deport.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Dec 27, 2013
No one is legal.yes they can be deported.wish they would.everyone get the hell out.
Johnny Reading

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#16 Dec 27, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
Sorry, that was my post not Mr. Nugent's. The trappings of using a public wi-fi. LOL
hey, stop dreamin about me BUTlight!! ;-00h, sorry, BUDLIGHT;) got beer?;-00
Johnny Reading

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#17 Dec 27, 2013
Holla Isabella wrote:
What do you call an illegal alien walking piece of shit with an AZ license? An illegal alien driving piece of shit.
wanna get a EZ licence? go to ASU not USA!!! ;-00
Mayela

Fairburn, GA

#18 Dec 28, 2013
Brothers: My people wish for peace; the red men all wish for peace; but where the white people are, there is no peace for them, except it be on the bosom of our mother. Where today are the Pequot? Where today are the Narrangansett, the Mohican, the Pakanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice and the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun." Tecumseh Shawnee
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Dr Yohaho Ronda

Da Nang, Vietnam

#19 Dec 28, 2013
Mayela wrote:
Brothers: My people wish for peace; the red men all wish for peace; but where the white people are, there is no peace for them, except it be on the bosom of our mother. Where today are the Pequot? Where today are the Narrangansett, the Mohican, the Pakanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice and the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun." Tecumseh Shawnee
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Da Nang, Vietnam

#20 Dec 28, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
The fact that you are illegally in the country should void any legal issues. You're building on a rotten foundation.
do U communicake with USA toDay? or Chic-fil-A!!
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