White House pushes forward on immigra...

White House pushes forward on immigration ahead of bigger reform fight

There are 322 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jan 4, 2013, titled White House pushes forward on immigration ahead of bigger reform fight. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

The Obama administration's decision this week to ease visa requirements for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants represents its latest move to reshape immigration through executive action, even as the White House gears up for an uncertain political fight over a far-more-sweeping legislative package in the months ahead.

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#22 Jan 6, 2013
one wrote:
I think that most of people usually doesn't know much about immigration law, including non-immigrant law (working visa types). Nowadays it's an extremely difficult process either way unless you marry a citizen. I myself is a non-immigrant wanting to be immigrant but the extreme process makes it almost impossible (and costs a lot !). The unrealistic process for those who want to stay legal makes it easier to fall into the path of illegal immigration.
And for those who thinks that illegal immigrants don't pay tax, you must know that they can and they do as long as they have SSN(it was provided until recent years if you enter country legally) or government provided tax ID (which you can get).
I wouldn't say that the illegal immigrants are alright, but many people are good people with good intention, and I think they should receive better chance and process to prove themselves. I think people shouldn't forget that U.S. is made by immigrants from all over the world.
For those American born citizens who believe that they are entitled to call themselves Americans, should know that their ancestors were immigrants who were given the chances to prove themselves and therefore you are here. So the question is how to make the process more realistic for those who wants to contribute to the country.
I hope that government will soon come up with a good reform for illegal immigrants to prove their worth(as apparently they are very much part of U.S. economy already and necessary workers), pay penalty, and openly contribute the society. I also hope they will make the non-immigrant worker law and path to the LPR(green card) process more realistic to prevent good hard working people to fall into the path of illegal immigration.
Then they really can toughen up the law for those illegals who have criminal background, who take the advantage of systems, and who are not contributing to the society.
Newsflash:

The "INN" is full!

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Logic

Wharton, NJ

#23 Jan 6, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Not one worthless illegal taker would spend one dime improving the economy the the US. They're here to take, send remittances to Mexihell, steal welfare, anchor and get child tax credit's and we cannot afford to lose American culture to third world trash.
And just what is this "American culture," you want to defend?
Logic

Wharton, NJ

#24 Jan 6, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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And you're part of the problem, you should have turn their ass into Immigration,instead of whining about how great they are!
The inscription at the base of the Statute of Liberty concludes, "I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" It says nothing about welcoming people who bypass our entry doors by climbing walls, swimming rivers and sneaking under border fences.
Enough said!!
Hey little cricket, do u get off on posting the same lines and the same links and articles to back up ur stupidity. It's people like u that make the US look bad..dumbass
blessed

Wendell, NC

#26 Jan 6, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
I know illegals who would be willing to pay not $5000 but $15000 to get their papers. And those people have learned the language, have worked hard and have never got any welfare or unemployment.
And this is do true
one

Japan

#27 Jan 6, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a human right to come to America. There are 190 countries on the planet, try somewhere else.
Sure, I never said that was a human right to come to America. We can go wherever we want to go. And some countries even won't allow it. What I'm saying is that all people who wants to immigrate to U.S. should work hard, must go some process to do so and should be beneficial to the country, however it should not be unreasonable. It used to be much easier and it's been getting harder and harder, last 15 years or so.

And again, if you are U.S. citizen, you wouldn't be existing if your ancestors didn't come to U.S. It's not that your ancestors were invited into U.S.-they made the way to come here, and made this country, and there was still a system to allow it. And since then people who love the spirit of this country have been coming here. I feel that U.S. completely denying the way of legal immigration is denying the spirit of this country itself.

Anyhow we all have different opinions, but all U.S. people are related back to immigrants (except native Americans), many of your neighbors are most likely 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, and just walking around, shopping and eating, that you are part of this community whether you realize it or not.

I'm not saying illegal immigration is good, but system failed sometime ago to allow good people legally immigrate. I believe that they should certainly secure the boarder better.
one

Japan

#28 Jan 6, 2013
Boknows wrote:
Pay $1000 dollars for every each year being here illegal,and $500 dollars plus processing fees for visa to work, and will get legal to work to provide for the family,instead of uncle Sam.
I'm not quite sure if this suppose to be mean post. But if you know the immigration law and process, legal immigrants must pay this much EASILY over those years, so those number doesn't seem to even appear high to me. I'm sure lots of good illegal immigrants given a chance, would be willing to pay same or more- it's not that they don't have money (some actually have lot), but there is no system to get back once they fell out of it.
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#29 Jan 6, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>You make zero sense.
I have a really good idea people. LEARN TO SPEAK AND WRITE ENGLISH, before you pat each other on the back. Then pack your bag's and GTFO....

Since: Jan 13

Monroe Township, NJ

#31 Jan 6, 2013
Ronnie, don't be harsh with people. The ones who make mistakes are the ones who, unlike others, speak more than one language.
Yeayy

Virginia Beach, VA

#32 Jan 6, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Not one worthless illegal taker would spend one dime improving the economy the the US. They're here to take, send remittances to Mexihell, steal welfare, anchor and get child tax credit's and we cannot afford to lose American culture to third world trash.
obviously you are a grand old crap full of hate. You are misinformed.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#33 Jan 7, 2013
Yeayy wrote:
<quoted text> obviously you are a grand old crap full of hate. You are misinformed.
Well what did he post that wasn't true?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#34 Jan 7, 2013
Logic wrote:
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Hey little cricket, do u get off on posting the same lines and the same links and articles to back up ur stupidity. It's people like u that make the US look bad..dumbass
It's interesting that you can't refute my posts so you resort to personal attacks. lol

Now who's the Dumb Ass?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#35 Jan 7, 2013
Logic wrote:
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And just what is this "American culture," you want to defend?
Start with honesty and go from there!

Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM

By James Walsh

On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."

No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.

******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data.******

The Treasury report found that "One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."

Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Logic

Wharton, NJ

#37 Jan 7, 2013
Aww little cricket strikes again with his google-found links.. Lol posting the same crap over and over again won't make the illegals go away fool;)

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#38 Jan 8, 2013
james wrote:
I am immigrant .I have kids and I get assistance I need paper to do the good job for take care my kids .i shame to get help from the gouvernement. I need help this country I want do my best because it's the the contry of my kids.Good bless America
Right, sure you are. You need medical assistance...get thee to a psychiatrist. Your delusions of being an illegal can be detrimental to your health.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#39 Jan 8, 2013
Logic wrote:
Aww little cricket strikes again with his google-found links.. Lol posting the same crap over and over again won't make the illegals go away fool;)
Are you an illegal alien hiding from I.C.E. or just a bias Hispanic American who hides them?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#40 Jan 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="one"

illegal immigration is good, but system failed sometime ago to allow good people legally immigrate.

I believe that they should certainly secure the boarder better.

[/QUOTE]

We allow in over 900,000 legal aliens a year,Then we have 12-20 Million illegal aliens (wag) that ignored our immigration laws and
crossed our borders.

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Do we really want to end up like Japan??

How many more will make you happy?
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#41 Jan 8, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Start with honesty and go from there!
Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Friday, 23 Sep 2011 05:17 PM
By James Walsh
On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax administration issued a startling report entitled "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."
No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.
******It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data.******
The Treasury report found that "One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."
Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Is this your hundred time that you've cut and paste the same article?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#42 Jan 8, 2013
FritoBandito wrote:
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Is this your hundred time that you've cut and paste the same article?
Why are you so scared of me girly boy??

Why did you waste a good ticket to come down and punch me in the face??

Why did your cop friends run away girly boy??
Are they scared like you??

When are you going to make good on your word girly boy and punch me in the face???
ronnie

West Jordan, UT

#43 Jan 8, 2013
friko and here is one. Please stop the baby talk. Please. Starting to sound like broken records... now I'm aging myself.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#44 Jan 8, 2013
ronnie wrote:
friko and here is one. Please stop the baby talk. Please. Starting to sound like broken records... now I'm aging myself.
The bully told women he was hunting them down to rape them

He told me he bought a ticket and was headed to my house to silence me

He threatened my kids and wife

And then I stood up and proved him a girly boy

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