Prop. 8 backers urge U.S. Supreme Court to rule on California's gay marriage ban

Sep 5, 2012 Full story: Santa Cruz Sentinel 237

Proposition 8 backers on Wednesday asked the U.S. Supreme Court to jump into the gay marriage fray and restore California's voter-approved ban on same-sex nuptials.

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“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#1 Sep 6, 2012
In my opinion SCOTUS is probably NOT going to take this appeal because they are not ready to make the overall decision regarding the right to marry for Same-Sex couples and the 9th basically took that question off the table.

If the proponents push the issue and more specifically demand that SCOTUS make a ruling on the "RIGHT TO MARRY" for Same-Sex Couples and lose.......it will be a major precedent and something I just don't think SCOTUS is ready to do just yet!!!!

I guess we will know in roughly 19 days!!!

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Sep 6, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
In my opinion SCOTUS is probably NOT going to take this appeal because they are not ready to make the overall decision regarding the right to marry for Same-Sex couples and the 9th basically took that question off the table.
If the proponents push the issue and more specifically demand that SCOTUS make a ruling on the "RIGHT TO MARRY" for Same-Sex Couples and lose.......it will be a major precedent and something I just don't think SCOTUS is ready to do just yet!!!!
I guess we will know in roughly 19 days!!!
I agree.

The 9th circuit court's decsion was narrowly drawn, so there is no federal question here for SCOTUS to decide.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#3 Sep 6, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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I agree.
The 9th circuit court's decsion was narrowly drawn, so there is no federal question here for SCOTUS to decide.
If the proponents of Prop 8 want to force the broader question and they should lose.....who will they blame? Nobody but themselves and other anti-gay folks will not be happy with them!!!

Since: Mar 09

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#4 Sep 6, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
In my opinion SCOTUS is probably NOT going to take this appeal because they are not ready to make the overall decision regarding the right to marry for Same-Sex couples and the 9th basically took that question off the table.
If the proponents push the issue and more specifically demand that SCOTUS make a ruling on the "RIGHT TO MARRY" for Same-Sex Couples and lose.......it will be a major precedent and something I just don't think SCOTUS is ready to do just yet!!!!
I guess we will know in roughly 19 days!!!
OMG. It's been sooo long.

It IS just around the corner!

(clap-clap) "I do believe in fairies!" (clap-clap) "I do believe in fairies!" (clap-clap) "I do believe in fairies!" (clap-clap)

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Sep 6, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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If the proponents of Prop 8 want to force the broader question and they should lose.....who will they blame? Nobody but themselves and other anti-gay folks will not be happy with them!!!
Firstly, except for areas under fedral jurisdiction, marriage is the purview of the states as per the Bill Of Rights' 10th Amendment.

Secondly, IF SCOTUS took the case ad ruled in our favor (something I don't thik they wil do for AT LEAST 2 decades more), the Prop. 8 backers would immediately begin a well-financed campaign to amend the U.S. Constitution to take away our marriage rights. And I think it would have a lot more backing than many here believe.

But SCOTUS is not going to take this case.

(and if you nominate me to SCOTUS, I will rule with an Iron Sceptre, but ALWAYS be Fair. And Balanced.:))

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#6 Sep 6, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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Firstly, except for areas under fedral jurisdiction, marriage is the purview of the states as per the Bill Of Rights' 10th Amendment.
Secondly, IF SCOTUS took the case ad ruled in our favor (something I don't thik they wil do for AT LEAST 2 decades more), the Prop. 8 backers would immediately begin a well-financed campaign to amend the U.S. Constitution to take away our marriage rights. And I think it would have a lot more backing than many here believe.
But SCOTUS is not going to take this case.
(and if you nominate me to SCOTUS, I will rule with an Iron Sceptre, but ALWAYS be Fair. And Balanced.:))
What is the average IQ of dems ?

"Rep. Yvette Clarke: The Dutch owned slaves in Brooklyn as recently as 1898 [VIDEO]"

A Democratic congresswoman from Brooklyn appears to believe that slavery existed in her district until 1898.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/dem-congres...

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#7 Sep 6, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the average IQ of dems ?
"Rep. Yvette Clarke: The Dutch owned slaves in Brooklyn as recently as 1898 [VIDEO]"
A Democratic congresswoman from Brooklyn appears to believe that slavery existed in her district until 1898.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/dem-congres...
While slavery was officially outlawed in the USA in 1865, that doesn't mean that there were no slaves still being held after that date. There are still slaves in the USA today: http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story...

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#8 Sep 6, 2012
Gay And Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
While slavery was officially outlawed in the USA in 1865, that doesn't mean that there were no slaves still being held after that date. There are still slaves in the USA today: http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story...
So in 1898 NY had slaves and owned by the Dutch?

Tell me , you wouldn't happen to be a Dem would you?

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#9 Sep 6, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the average IQ of dems ?
.........
A bit higher than the average Repubs.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#10 Sep 6, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
So in 1898 NY had slaves and owned by the Dutch?
Tell me , you wouldn't happen to be a Dem would you?
Would you like to get us all started on the famous verbal mis-steps of Sarah Palin?

I doubt it.

Now, do you have anything to say on the actual topic?
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Sep 6, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the average IQ of dems ?
"Rep. Yvette Clarke: The Dutch owned slaves in Brooklyn as recently as 1898 [VIDEO]"
A Democratic congresswoman from Brooklyn appears to believe that slavery existed in her district until 1898.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/dem-congres...
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#12 Sep 6, 2012
The discussion was going just fine until once again we let one troll (luv sarah palin) derail everyone.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#13 Sep 6, 2012
I have to agree with the general opinion the SCOTUS won't accept Prop 8; mostly because they don't want to take on yet another extremely divisive issue if they don't have to. And because 9th circuit ruled so narrowly, they don't have to.

This will play out in the states for a few more years. WHEN the SCOTUS decides to take the next step will depend on the case and more importantly the make up of the SCOTUS when that next case comes along.

Yet another reason to ensure Obama is reelected. Ginsburg has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel, and Scalia & Kennedy are both getting ready to retire. If Obama wins, we have a chance to flip the SCOTUS to a solid 5-4 liberal majority for the next 20-30 years. If we can follow that up with another Dem in 2016, we're looking at a 6-3 liberal majority.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#14 Sep 6, 2012
Recent USA Today poll- 63% of Americans can't name a single SCOTUS justice.

The economy & jobs & medicare & social security & taxes etc etc can all be changed after the next election, then changed again after the next election, then changed back again.

SCOTUS appointments can NOT.

I think if the majority of Americans had ANY clue about the court and how it works and who's on it, elections would have an entirely different focus.

The sheeple only notice AFTER a big decision, like abortion or gay rights etc.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#15 Sep 6, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
The discussion was going just fine until once again we let one troll (luv sarah palin) derail everyone.
I totally agree with ya......and maybe because that poster is truly aware that this issue is going to not go their way........otherwise, there'd be no need to go off-topic!!!!

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#16 Sep 6, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the average IQ of dems ?
"Rep. Yvette Clarke: The Dutch owned slaves in Brooklyn as recently as 1898 [VIDEO]"
A Democratic congresswoman from Brooklyn appears to believe that slavery existed in her district until 1898.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/dem-congres...
I saw that. I don't know what to say about this racist dumbbell. Perhaps one should be required to pass an American history test before being allowed to run for office.(The Dutch left New York 2-1/2 centuries earlier than dopey believes).

“Greetings!”

Since: Dec 06

Tampa, FL

#17 Sep 6, 2012
Look, the pro-prop-8 folks read the rulings, and these legal maneuvers are being done SIMPLY to delay the lower court rulings!

I agree that the SCOTUS will probably NOT take any of the cases - not only due to the quality and citings in each ruling, but also because the scope of the rulings really don't rise to the level of SCOTUS attention.

The good news for anti-prop-8 and DOMA rulings are that if and when SCOTUS rejects the appeals, the lower court rulings go into effect - thus, making same-sex marriage LEGAL again in CA and also instating benefits to the couples who sued the government because they were legally married in their state.

THIS also sets a precident which future cases will use in support of same-sex marriage.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Sep 6, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
Firstly, except for areas under fedral jurisdiction, marriage is the purview of the states as per the Bill Of Rights' 10th Amendment.
That would render IRS income tax collection for gay couples unfair and unbalanced
.
(of course those minor anomalies can be tweaked ;o))

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#19 Sep 6, 2012
TampaBob wrote:
Look, the pro-prop-8 folks read the rulings, and these legal maneuvers are being done SIMPLY to delay the lower court rulings!
I agree that the SCOTUS will probably NOT take any of the cases - not only due to the quality and citings in each ruling, but also because the scope of the rulings really don't rise to the level of SCOTUS attention.
The good news for anti-prop-8 and DOMA rulings are that if and when SCOTUS rejects the appeals, the lower court rulings go into effect - thus, making same-sex marriage LEGAL again in CA and also instating benefits to the couples who sued the government because they were legally married in their state.
THIS also sets a precident which future cases will use in support of same-sex marriage.
I don't see how it will set a prcedent if SCOTUS refuses to hear the case, as expected. States can do what they want in this area.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#20 Sep 6, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.
The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.
Yet these people you would not call racists but anyone who dare stand up to them you naturally call a racist and this is why you are a hypocrite liberal.

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