Is Atheism just another religion?

Is Atheism just another religion?

There are 84 comments on the Examiner.com story from Jun 12, 2012, titled Is Atheism just another religion?. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel in San Francisco, a couple days ago, rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who said the references to God, in the Pledge of allegiance, are unconstitutional and infringe on his religious beliefs.

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Aztec

Leicester, UK

#21 Jun 14, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Come back when your government has abolished the National Day of Prayer, removed "God" from your nation's motto as well as your pledge of allegiance.
That'll be a start.
Excellent point!

I couldn't agree more. What America desperately needs is a good does of liberal atheism.
Frank Rizzo

Santa Rosa, CA

#22 Jun 14, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Still socking your way around these threads.
That's funny. This from Aztec's puppet...literally. LOL
Frank Rizzo

Santa Rosa, CA

#23 Jun 14, 2012
I am concerned about the many atheist liberals expanding government against the will of the non-atheist liberal Americans.

I am concerned about the deeply integrated connections between "Atheism and State." And how atheist liberals are imposing the tenents of their atheist faith upon us all through legislation and policy, and the overextension of government into every facet of life as a direct result of the tenents of atheism.

How can one have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
EdSeed

Hamilton, UK

#25 Jun 14, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
... a direct result of the tenents of atheism.
How can one have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
You will only understand that when you understand what atheism is...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
It is 'disbelief in god'. Nothing more. It has no tenets.

Religious or not, one should never be afraid to speak-up for a secular society.

Since: Apr 08

Leicester, UK

#26 Jun 14, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
I am concerned about the many atheist liberals expanding government against the will of the non-atheist liberal Americans.
I am concerned about the deeply integrated connections between "Atheism and State." And how atheist liberals are imposing the tenents of their atheist faith upon us all through legislation and policy, and the overextension of government into every facet of life as a direct result of the tenents of atheism.
How can one have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
So you're saying that America has a state religion?

Perhaps you need to be introduced to barefoot.
Crooked Liberal Media

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Jun 14, 2012
I share your concerns FR. As do a vast majority of Americans....the real Americans who aren't atheist liberals.

Atheism is a faith that there is no God. Atheism's dark message is destructive for obvious reasons. The tenents of the atheist faith have been applied to government and society now for over 60 years...now the effect is being felt...America's atheist liberal chickens are coming home to roost.

Atheism must be kept separate from the government. For example, religious symbols of all kinds must be displayed on public land and buildings because to not so would imply government sanctioned atheism - a kind of official government religion.

Name one socialist or communist government that wasn't atheistic and secular? There aren't any and there never has been any and there never will be any.

We must demand the separation of atheism and state!
EdSeed

Hamilton, UK

#28 Jun 14, 2012
Good luck with that. Maybe such thinking could make the USA as religious as some developed countries?
How about Indonesia...
From:
http://atheistalliance.org/news-a-articles/ar...
Atheist Alliance International condemns the verdict against Alexander Aan, the Indonesian atheist who was attacked and arrested after posting 'God does not exist' on Facebook. Alexander Aan was today jailed for two years and six months for blasphemy under Indonesia's criminal code. He was also fined Rp 100 million (c. US$10,600). Unquote.

I like to think the USA is getting better, not worse.
redneck

Azalea, OR

#29 Jun 14, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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How can you have freedom of religion if government requires that everyone be free "from" religion?
How can you have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
Freedom of religion is not written in the Constitution. Atheist have freedom from religion.The state is non-theist as opposed to atheist.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#30 Jun 15, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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How can you have freedom of religion if government requires that everyone be free "from" religion?
How can you have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
You obviously missed some key phrases in my post because I only said the government cannot make claims that a god exists which it is currently doing. You as an individual and groups of individuals can believe anything you want. But currently, the government is making the claim that there is a fact a god, and only one god. So let me ask you, whose god, whose understanding of god? Would it be okay with you if instead of god, the word allah was used? Or how about Thor?

The constitution says 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof'.

What part of shall make no law don't you understand? By declaring that there is but one god, hasn't congress interfered with the rights of people that believe in more than one god and in my case no god. Congress has in affect said our religious views are not equal to the your views. What part of that concept don't you, the others, and yes I am sad to include, the courts, understand?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#31 Jun 15, 2012
Phil speaks on the origin and fall of religion:

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#32 Jun 15, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
I am concerned about the many atheist liberals expanding government against the will of the non-atheist liberal Americans.
Religion is not a right that gets voted on. The first amendment, probably more than any other amendment, is included to protect the rights of the minority against the will of the majority.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#33 Jun 15, 2012
Crooked Liberal Media wrote:
Atheism is a faith. It's not a religion, but rather it is a faith that there is no god. It requires faith to believe that there is no creator. Therefore, atheism is a faith.
This is incorrect. Generally, atheism is "without god". If you wanted to get technical you could argue that "strong atheism" requires some kind of faith because it posits that "no god exists". But on the whole, and by default, atheism is ONLY lack of belief in god or gods.

There is no way to describe such a position as a "religion", though people still try to.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#34 Jun 15, 2012
DaveinMass wrote:
Atheism is the same in that in the eyes of the law and in civil discourse it should have the same standing and legal rights. It currently doesn't which is what atheists fight against.
Some states have specific prohibitions against atheists running for office. South Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee to name a few.

Yet Xians claim persecution. Funny.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#35 Jun 15, 2012
Crooked Liberal Media wrote:
Equal rights for the atheist faith will also require a separation of atheism and state...an equal requirement of any other faith...religious faith or otherwise.

Currently, atheism and state are deeply integrated - and that is unacceptable.
No, this is also incorrect. There is no "atheism faith". Separation of Church and State protects your religious liberty by preventing other religions from dominating the government ANC coercing you.
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#36 Jun 15, 2012
The word "atheims" is Greek, and it means no God. So no, its not a religion since there are gods in every religion.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#37 Jun 15, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>How can you have freedom of religion if government requires that everyone be free "from" religion?

How can you have freedom of religion when there is no separation of atheism and state?
When was the last time a government entity told you there us no god? Personally I remember being in the midst of 20 other kids praying to Jesus led by a loudspeaker in a public school many years ago.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#38 Jun 15, 2012
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>No, this is also incorrect. There is no "atheism faith". Separation of Church and State protects your religious liberty by preventing other religions from dominating the government ANC coercing you.
Autocorrect is my enemy. WTF is ANC?
Occupy This

Berkeley, CA

#39 Jun 15, 2012
Yiago wrote:
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This is incorrect. Generally, atheism is "without god". If you wanted to get technical you could argue that "strong atheism" requires some kind of faith because it posits that "no god exists". But on the whole, and by default, atheism is ONLY lack of belief in god or gods.
There is no way to describe such a position as a "religion", though people still try to.
This is so much atheist spam - an attempt to avoid taking a position...rather as Obama and other liberals often do on other issues. Atheism is a faith that there is no god. One cannot remove oneself from the issue...

If you wish to stay on the sidelines then you're an agnostic.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#40 Jun 15, 2012
Occupy This wrote:
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This is so much atheist spam - an attempt to avoid taking a position...rather as Obama and other liberals often do on other issues. Atheism is a faith that there is no god. One cannot remove oneself from the issue...
If you wish to stay on the sidelines then you're an agnostic.
So you must agree that Atheists should have the same standing in the public arena as Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Shintos, etc. And don't forget to include the Wiccans, Druids, etc.
Crooked Liberal Media

Los Angeles, CA

#41 Jun 15, 2012
DaveinMass wrote:
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So you must agree that Atheists should have the same standing in the public arena as Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Shintos, etc. And don't forget to include the Wiccans, Druids, etc.
I don't know about OT, but i think this would be fair provided that atheism first be stripped from government and the public domain. There must be a complete separation of atheism and state.

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