Fed Judge Uses Junk Science To Deny Same-Sex Marriage In Hawaii

Aug 9, 2012 | Posted by: Sei | Full story: lezgetreal.com

Senior District Judge Alan C. Kay granted a motion for summary judgement in a case filed by Hawaii's director of health, Loretta J. Fuddy and the Hawaii Family Forum, an anti-gay group masquerading as a Christian group.

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I've used this definition to kids:
Gay people are two men or two women who fall in love and want to live together.
They usually say, satisfied, "ok" and run off to do something or other.
If they ask why some people are so angry at them ... THEN it starts to get complicated. lol
You can see from my small real-world illustration that the problem isn't with the kids. For them it's just another datum to file-away-until-useful. Unless some adults make some big and interesting noises about it all, playing or cartoons are far more immediate in their priorities.
Unless some adults ...
Some do.
What makes you feel compelled to bring it up with children? You don't think they'll notice it at some point on theire own? Do you think that telling them about it is going to some-how shape their opinion about it?

Do you bother to ask their parents if you can tell their children about it?

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We're talking about middle school kid here, many of which either have gay parents or know kids who have gay parents. Or already know they are gay themselves.

Get over yourself and your bullcrap. Gay history isn't being directed toward elementary school students.
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What makes you feel compelled to bring it up with children? You don't think they'll notice it at some point on theire own? Do you think that telling them about it is going to some-how shape their opinion about it?
Do you bother to ask their parents if you can tell their children about it?

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What makes you feel compelled to bring it up with children? You don't think they'll notice it at some point on theire own? Do you think that telling them about it is going to some-how shape their opinion about it?
Do you bother to ask their parents if you can tell their children about it?
Lots of red-flag words there, boyo.

"Compelled" ?

"bring it up"?

That's not what the instances I gave describe.

I was asked.

There's no need to ask their parents. They know me quite well. I tell them about everything the kids say and do. Why wouldn't I?

You think someone of my profession and age doesn't know how to answer kids' questions ... and tailor the answer to their age, level of comprehension, AND actual level of interest (usually quite low).

You're just looking for something to be calumnous about.

Kids "notice it on *theire* own" ?

The days of learning such things from the locker room and behind the barn are long over (and good riddance). That's just letting other kids raise your kids. Not such a good idea.

If a kid asks a question, seems to want an answer, and you can't give a simple one that doesn't stretch the bounds of their real interest-level and attention span, then by all means let the kid down the street form your child for you.

They couldn't turn out any worse than you did.

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Lots of red-flag words there, boyo.
"Compelled" ?
"bring it up"?
That's not what the instances I gave describe.
I was asked.
There's no need to ask their parents. They know me quite well. I tell them about everything the kids say and do. Why wouldn't I?
You think someone of my profession and age doesn't know how to answer kids' questions ... and tailor the answer to their age, level of comprehension, AND actual level of interest (usually quite low).
You're just looking for something to be calumnous about.
Kids "notice it on *theire* own" ?
The days of learning such things from the locker room and behind the barn are long over (and good riddance). That's just letting other kids raise your kids. Not such a good idea.
If a kid asks a question, seems to want an answer, and you can't give a simple one that doesn't stretch the bounds of their real interest-level and attention span, then by all means let the kid down the street form your child for you.
They couldn't turn out any worse than you did.
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I knew it. You've chosen a profession that gets you closer to little kids. I hope the FBI is monitoring all of your online activities! And all of your screen names.
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Redneck trolls are the funniest.

When did you move to california OT?
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I think it's important the FBI get involved here. Let them decide. Major red flags here.

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I knew it. You've chosen a profession that gets you closer to little kids. I hope the FBI is monitoring all of your online activities! And all of your screen names.
You ARE just looking for someone to calumnize. LOLOL.

I am a retired octagenarian who used to work in mental health, addiction and family services.

FBI monitoring ME? That's rich. I've worked WITH them.(A lot of us have, btw)

In our neighborhood, sometimes my neighbors ask me to keep an eye on their kids at the park across the street from us. I take my tablet (my WiFi can reach).

Get real.

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Perhaps you failed to change your screen id? I was talking to your alternate personality - snyper.
I think the gay cat is out of the bag. What makes you think you have the right to talk to little children about homosexuality? Children of gay parents don't need your little introduction/indoctrination... Neither do middle school kids.
Your predatory cover is blown.
Not a rational one, are you?

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I've used this definition to kids:
Gay people are two men or two women who fall in love and want to live together.
They usually say, satisfied, "ok" and run off to do something or other.
If they ask why some people are so angry at them ... THEN it starts to get complicated. lol
You can see from my small real-world illustration that the problem isn't with the kids. For them it's just another datum to file-away-until-useful. Unless some adults make some big and interesting noises about it all, playing or cartoons are far more immediate in their priorities.
Unless some adults ...
Some do.
You're right. Children are amazingly adaptable and if it is logical at all they GET it without much fuss. It is later when they are poisoned by meddlesome adults who feed prejudice and hate into their little heads like the witch poisoning Snow White's apple, with as much glee as the witch had also.(I just watched "Snow White" about a week ago!)

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Middle school kids are into playing and cartoons? You sick bastard...
You are talking about little children! You've chosen a profession that gets you close to little babies!
Middle school?

Wow. You have some really impaired reading abilities, or is it just your thinking?

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Occupy this wrote:
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Perhaps you failed to change your screen id? I was talking to your alternate personality - snyper.
I think the gay cat is out of the bag. What makes you think you have the right to talk to little children about homosexuality? Children of gay parents don't need your little introduction/indoctrination... Neither do middle school kids.
Your predatory cover is blown.
I have only one registered name here on TOPIX: "snyper". A handful of times in the past I've used "Puhleeze" when I was in too much of a rush to log in to comment.(btw: "handful" means "about five") though I usually still use "Snyper".

"Tom" and I are not the same person. While we agree on many things and have both been politically active for the gay cause, we do have divergent opinions on methodology ... I'm more cautious. I do like his avatar pic though, and have started painting "St." Harvey icons for friends.

Our vocabularies match pretty much (I try to make it a point to restrict my usage here to the SAT word list) Our writing styles, while obviously educated, are significantly different.

Do you frequently have trouble assessing and evaluating what you read?

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I think it's important the FBI get involved here. Let them decide. Major red flags here.
Go ahead. I encourage it. They'll look into your concerns, laugh, and put you on their list of well-intentioned cranks. lol

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<quoted text>You're right. Children are amazingly adaptable and if it is logical at all they GET it without much fuss. It is later when they are poisoned by meddlesome adults who feed prejudice and hate into their little heads like the witch poisoning Snow White's apple, with as much glee as the witch had also.(I just watched "Snow White" about a week ago!)
That certainly was one of Disney Studios best. It was decades before anyone matched the quality of the animation.

I still don't like the way that Disney mangles the literature they draw from. "The Hunchback..." and "Anastasia" really pissed me off. lol

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That certainly was one of Disney Studios best. It was decades before anyone matched the quality of the animation.
I still don't like the way that Disney mangles the literature they draw from. "The Hunchback..." and "Anastasia" really pissed me off. lol
I've read that classic cartoons used 16 drawings per second, modern cartoons are 2 per second. You think it SHOWS? I don't like their reliance on computers now either. It lacks the warmth and richness of the hand drawn cartoons.

I live next to a massive vacant area. There are dozens of squirrels and rabbits who come into the lawns and shrubs here. When they run, all together, it reminds me of the bunnies and squirrels all running around Snow White's feet when they get scared of the dwarves.

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