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Fed Judge Uses Junk Science To Deny Same-Sex Marriage In Hawaii

There are 94 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Aug 9, 2012, titled Fed Judge Uses Junk Science To Deny Same-Sex Marriage In Hawaii. In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

Senior District Judge Alan C. Kay granted a motion for summary judgement in a case filed by Hawaii's director of health, Loretta J. Fuddy and the Hawaii Family Forum, an anti-gay group masquerading as a Christian group.

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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#22 Aug 10, 2012
D Miller wrote:
<quoted text>But queers haven't made their case to the voters.
The queer homofascist dictatorship will just ignore the voters and intends to use government coercion to impose its agenda upon an unwilling populace they are determined to enslave.
Gee, where would I rather vacation? Hawaii or Minneassholis? Let me ponder!

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#25 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
<quoted text>
A link to the so called study should have been provided. We all know how biased and deceptive liberal tend to be. How do we know the author herself isn't just another biased liberal or homosexual? That would tend to undermine her credibility on such matters.
Most readers are not familiar with the Regneras study - unless i imagine they're gay. Common sense however, makes it likely that the study is not junk science.
Are you aware that Mark Regnerus is a man......and his study is severely flawed!!!
Proud Liberal

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Aug 10, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you aware that Mark Regnerus is a man......and his study is severely flawed!!!
I think Occupy this was talking about the author of this article. Or the article that this thread is based upon. She's a woman.

Im familiar with Regnerus and his work is solid. Why don't you try explaining otherwise?
Jane Dough

Barre, VT

#28 Aug 10, 2012
I love how gays pretend their studies don't have the same flaws and many more when they attack this study...

they don't realize many of their studies have less than 100 participants, all volunteers who want to be observed, who all self-report...

If I could pick the group and let them self report, I could have a study PROVING that cigarettes smokers live better lives...

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#29 Aug 10, 2012
Proud Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I think Occupy this was talking about the author of this article. Or the article that this thread is based upon. She's a woman.
Im familiar with Regnerus and his work is solid. Why don't you try explaining otherwise?
Really, his study is solid.......he wrote it before his study was complete and ASSumed that his results would go the way he wanted them to.....that right there is a big no-no......from there he's not comparing intact biological families with Gay or Lesbian intact families.......and he only had 245 participants who answered his first question about their parents sexual orientation......and that is also another flaw......these kids weren't raised by a Gay or Lesbian parent per say......just that out of 3000 participates, these 245 kids stated that their parents had been in some sort of Same-Sex relationship for some brief period of time.

And another thing.......he's under investigation for so many other issues.

WestCoaster

Los Angeles, CA

#30 Aug 10, 2012
D Miller wrote:
<quoted text>But queers haven't made their case to the voters.
The queer homofascist dictatorship will just ignore the voters and intends to use government coercion to impose its agenda upon an unwilling populace they are determined to enslave.
No, you're thinking of the Christian Right.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#32 Aug 10, 2012
Proud Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I think Occupy this was talking about the author of this article. Or the article that this thread is based upon. She's a woman.
Im familiar with Regnerus and his work is solid. Why don't you try explaining otherwise?
It very well could be that Mr Regnerus' past work was solid, but he really dropped the ball on this one. Hundreds of sociologists have said so. For instance, and for his convenience, he lumped any child who spent any amount of time in a non-traditional household under the "gay parent" count, whereas children who grew up with a mom and dad for their entire growing up time as the "control group." In other words, he compared children from broken homes to children of non-broken homes. Guess what the results were? Children from broken homes fared worse than those who were not. Duh! To be valid, his study should have compared children from broken homes with homosexual parents to children from broken homes with hetero parents. It did not even come close.

Then you get to the issue of who paid for this study. Surprise, surprise, Gomer, it was rabidly anti-gay organizations. As he even stated in his study, he could have obtained funding from a better sample of groups, but that was inconvenient. It would take too long, he says. So his results provided the results that his funders wanted.

And his peer review process was likewise flawed, the so-called peers being non-experts who also have their anti-gay axe to grind.

The whole thing is a piece of crap, not worth the paper it's printed on, but of course the anti-marriage crowd is touting it as a crowning achievement of scholarship. I don't have the qualifications to judge this from a scientific or sociological perspective, but even I could see his rampant abuse of what is normally a good process for identifying solid research from poor, shoddy work. His study falls in the latter category, clearly, and should be removed from circulation.
Crooked liberal media

Los Angeles, CA

#33 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the politically incorrect truth. Homosexuality and pedophilia and endophilia are strongly correlated.
Homosexuality and pedophilia are associated with disease and starvation. The rest of the population is genetically predisposed to reject abnormal forms of sexuality. Even some homosexuals reject their own sexuality because its in the genes to do so.
Brilliant analysis.

And I agree. The article that started this thread is junk journalism.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#35 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
<quoted text>
A link to the so called study should have been provided. We all know how biased and deceptive liberal tend to be. How do we know the author herself isn't just another biased liberal or homosexual? That would tend to undermine her credibility on such matters.
Most readers are not familiar with the Regneras study - unless i imagine they're gay. Common sense however, makes it likely that the study is not junk science.
It was in the major news, even the report that the University of Texas is investigating Regnerus. In academia, that's really bad to have your own Campus examining your work on professional grounds.

I can go into great detail about the flaws in the very design of the study, errors in sample selection, conclusions that can't be drawn from the data collected, etc.

It's been severely criticized along the above lines by other professionals, academics, and professional journals in his field. It really is a non-professional bit of work. Undergrads can do better.
Occupy This

San Francisco, CA

#36 Aug 10, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
It was in the major news, even the report that the University of Texas is investigating Regnerus. In academia, that's really bad to have your own Campus examining your work on professional grounds.
I can go into great detail about the flaws in the very design of the study, errors in sample selection, conclusions that can't be drawn from the data collected, etc.
It's been severely criticized along the above lines by other professionals, academics, and professional journals in his field. It really is a non-professional bit of work. Undergrads can do better.
Meaningless liberal babble. Everyone knows that Academia in America is exclusively liberal. Naturally liberals and homosexual pseudo scientists (professors and sociologists and psychiatrists) are going to "investigate" anyone who finds facts that oppose their liberal agenda and world view.

Any research that coinflicts with liberalism is automatically labeled junk science. Nobody is buying the constant liberal bs. In every field and on every issue, liberals have to lie. Why is that? Why do liberals have to lie about everything? It's as if they're opposed to reality itself. It's not that liberals don't have common sense, it's that they hate reality so they refuse to use common sense...
Occupy This

San Francisco, CA

#37 Aug 10, 2012
Crooked liberal media wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant analysis.
And I agree. The article that started this thread is junk journalism.
Thanks. It's hard to argue with the science of evolution. Homosexuality and it's relatives pedophilia and endophilia are correlated. A disproportionate number of homosexuals are also pedophiles and most homosexuals are endophiles.

Furthermore, heterosexuals are genetically predisposed to reject these abnormal forms of sexuality. Meanwhile, the gay nazi's say they're born gay (which they are), but heterosexuals are not born genetically predisposed to oppose gays but instead are bigots. Liberals ignore the science when it opposes their dreams of utopia.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#38 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy This wrote:
<quoted text>
Meaningless liberal babble. Everyone knows that Academia in America is exclusively liberal. Naturally liberals and homosexual pseudo scientists (professors and sociologists and psychiatrists) are going to "investigate" anyone who finds facts that oppose their liberal agenda and world view.
Any research that coinflicts with liberalism is automatically labeled junk science. Nobody is buying the constant liberal bs. In every field and on every issue, liberals have to lie. Why is that? Why do liberals have to lie about everything? It's as if they're opposed to reality itself. It's not that liberals don't have common sense, it's that they hate reality so they refuse to use common sense...
Regnerus's work simply doesn't meet the criteria for a valid study.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#39 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy This wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks. It's hard to argue with the science of evolution. Homosexuality and it's relatives pedophilia and endophilia are correlated. A disproportionate number of homosexuals are also pedophiles and most homosexuals are endophiles.
Furthermore, heterosexuals are genetically predisposed to reject these abnormal forms of sexuality. Meanwhile, the gay nazi's say they're born gay (which they are), but heterosexuals are not born genetically predisposed to oppose gays but instead are bigots. Liberals ignore the science when it opposes their dreams of utopia.
What's to "oppose" when heteros engage in the same range of erotic play activities, just not with their own genotype?

All the thought and research on bigotry I've encountered indicate that it is learned. Do you have links to works that conclude otherwise?
Occupy This

San Francisco, CA

#40 Aug 10, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
What's to "oppose" when heteros engage in the same range of erotic play activities, just not with their own genotype?
All the thought and research on bigotry I've encountered indicate that it is learned. Do you have links to works that conclude otherwise?
Bigotry is not in the equation. Evolution dictates that rejection of abnormal forms of sexuality is a survival requirement - it is doubtful that the human race would be here without it.

Homosexual activity and pedophilia and ephebophillia in early human groups were regarded as activities that needlessly spread diseases and wasted extremely limited resources without the benefit of producing offspring. This fact shaped human evolution at the genetic level.

We are all opposed to pedophilia...all of course, but pedophiles....and secretly to too many homosexuals. It's no different (for the majority of the human race) than being naturally opposed to homosexuality and ephebophillia.

Genetic opposition to all abnormal forms of sexuality not a learned behavior. It has served to ensure the survival of our species.
Occupy This

San Francisco, CA

#41 Aug 10, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Regnerus's work simply doesn't meet the criteria for a valid study.
It doesn't meet the liberal criteria for such a study. The science on the other hand, is sound and grounded in reality.

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#42 Aug 10, 2012
Occupy This wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't meet the liberal criteria for such a study. The science on the other hand, is sound and grounded in reality.
Again, no it's not........it has NOTHING to do with being Liberal that makes this man's study flawed......it's the fact that he wrote his conclusion before the completion of collecting his data........and he's also trying to compare intact biological families to broken biological families or those whose parent might have had some involvement with the Same-Sex..........let me ask you a question......have you EVER done any data collection for a paper? Had to explain your methodology? If not, then you have NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE FRUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.......he didn't even have it reviewed by an ethics committee before making it public!!!

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Since: May 12

Regina

#43 Aug 10, 2012
D Miller wrote:
<quoted text>Ho Ho! Hey Hey! How many kids did queers rape today?
I'll bet it's a helluva lot fewer than girls sexually abused/assaulted/raped by heterosexual men.
In fact, well over 50% of women in North America have been sexually abused in one way or another before they were teens.

But hey, why let reality get in the way of some good ol' mental masturbation?

Hey, I know, let's hit 'em economically too. Shut down the American entertainment industry cuz it's just chock full o' them horrible queer-o-sexuals. They shouldn't even be allowed to work, let alone get married.

Oh oh oh...can't let them vote anymore either. Otherwise they're gonna elect some homofascist gov't that'll force everyone to suck dick. Not that it'll matter with the way the price of gas is going, we'll all be blowing the oil companies by then anyway.

Oh hell, I'm feeling nostalgic, let's just build some internment camps a la 1942 and force all gay people into them. We'll also need to develop a test to see if a newborn will turn out gay, that way we can immediately sterilize the parents so it can't happen again.

And finally, cameras installed in every room in every house/apt unit/motel/hotel/etc to make sure people are only having proper, missionary style, heterosexual sex.

Only THEN, can we know that the God fearin' USofA will truly be safe from...ummmmm....from what again?

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#44 Aug 11, 2012
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet it's a helluva lot fewer than girls sexually abused/assaulted/raped by heterosexual men.
In fact, well over 50% of women in North America have been sexually abused in one way or another before they were teens.
But hey, why let reality get in the way of some good ol' mental masturbation?
Hey, I know, let's hit 'em economically too. Shut down the American entertainment industry cuz it's just chock full o' them horrible queer-o-sexuals. They shouldn't even be allowed to work, let alone get married.
Oh oh oh...can't let them vote anymore either. Otherwise they're gonna elect some homofascist gov't that'll force everyone to suck dick. Not that it'll matter with the way the price of gas is going, we'll all be blowing the oil companies by then anyway.
Oh hell, I'm feeling nostalgic, let's just build some internment camps a la 1942 and force all gay people into them. We'll also need to develop a test to see if a newborn will turn out gay, that way we can immediately sterilize the parents so it can't happen again.
And finally, cameras installed in every room in every house/apt unit/motel/hotel/etc to make sure people are only having proper, missionary style, heterosexual sex.
Only THEN, can we know that the God fearin' USofA will truly be safe from...ummmmm....from what again?
Definitely worth a re-post......nice post:-)

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#45 Aug 11, 2012
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet it's a helluva lot fewer than girls sexually abused/assaulted/raped by heterosexual men.
In fact, well over 50% of women in North America have been sexually abused in one way or another before they were teens.
But hey, why let reality get in the way of some good ol' mental masturbation?
Hey, I know, let's hit 'em economically too. Shut down the American entertainment industry cuz it's just chock full o' them horrible queer-o-sexuals. They shouldn't even be allowed to work, let alone get married.
Oh oh oh...can't let them vote anymore either. Otherwise they're gonna elect some homofascist gov't that'll force everyone to suck dick. Not that it'll matter with the way the price of gas is going, we'll all be blowing the oil companies by then anyway.
Oh hell, I'm feeling nostalgic, let's just build some internment camps a la 1942 and force all gay people into them. We'll also need to develop a test to see if a newborn will turn out gay, that way we can immediately sterilize the parents so it can't happen again.
And finally, cameras installed in every room in every house/apt unit/motel/hotel/etc to make sure people are only having proper, missionary style, heterosexual sex.
Only THEN, can we know that the God fearin' USofA will truly be safe from...ummmmm....from what again?
wow! nice tantrum!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#46 Aug 11, 2012
Occupy This wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't meet the liberal criteria for such a study. The science on the other hand, is sound and grounded in reality.
No, it doesn't.

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