Court blocks California law banning gay therapy

Dec 21, 2012 Full story: Sacramento Bee Newspaper 109

A federal appeals court on Friday put the brakes on a first-of-its-kind California law that bans therapy aimed at turning gay minors straight.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#98 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Epi-genetics has never been tested in a lab. We aren't able to do so yet. It's as theoretical as string theory.
Where is your evidence of this assertion?

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#99 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Where is your evidence of this assertion?
How do you supply evidence for a negative?

We've "mapped" genomes, but our ability to manipulate genetic material is very spotty. Epi-genetics, even in microorganisms, is still very conjectural or inferential.

A few methylation and chomatin observations and histone modifications do not constitute sufficient data to validate the hypotheses' application to more complex systems. Some even go so far as to object that "epigentics" is a misnomer because it remains to be demonstrated that any of these effects are heritable.

Now "epigenesis" is another kettle of tRNA entirely. lol

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#100 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you supply evidence for a negative?
We've "mapped" genomes, but our ability to manipulate genetic material is very spotty. Epi-genetics, even in microorganisms, is still very conjectural or inferential.
A few methylation and chomatin observations and histone modifications do not constitute sufficient data to validate the hypotheses' application to more complex systems. Some even go so far as to object that "epigentics" is a misnomer because it remains to be demonstrated that any of these effects are heritable.
Now "epigenesis" is another kettle of tRNA entirely. lol
So, we can't manipulate the material very well yet, and this proves ... what?

Also, I said evidence, not "proof." But I still fail to see what all this has to do with the topic at hand.
Jane Pudenda

Hoboken, NJ

#101 Dec 29, 2012
Crooked liberal media wrote:
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You're clueless. The science dictates that heterosexuals are genetically designed to reject homosexuality and pedophilia. It was a critical design feature of early humans.
Genetically designed?

hahahahahah
ahahahahahhah
ahahahhahah

Good luck proving that one.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103 Dec 29, 2012
NoQ wrote:
You freaks are a product of Birth defects. Stop denying it.
So are you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105 Dec 29, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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You just can't stand the truth, huh Freak. LMFAO
Aw, you're fresh out of insults. I shall recommend a few you can direct toward me if you like:

1. Dinosaur.

2. Bag of dust.

3. Fossil.

4. Geek.

5. Gamer.

6. Know-it-all.(personal favorite)

7. Shrew.

8. Meanie.

9. Bag of old bones.

10. Prude.

You're welcome.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#107 Dec 29, 2012
fr NoQ:

>...That's Right <

No, that's WRONG. Now, run along and ask mommy to turn on the TeleTubbies for you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#109 Dec 29, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Pattysboi, are you a Fa$$ot with a womans name like Mona and Rose, or are you a fking Dyke????
How quaint, you think only gay people want everyone to have equal rights. Well, as much as you want to make them look like the better people, even straight people and us asexuals want equality for all.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#110 Dec 29, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Naw, I prefer, freak, TransQueer or Pervert to describe you. That's Right
Suit yourself, if you enjoy being a redundant, low brow, lackadaisical buffoon then have at it.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#112 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
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That's all fine and dandy, but it's still too lacking in hard science.
"Logic is a way to go wrong with confidence." - Robert Heinlein
Sorry Snyper, I did not feel like writing a paper on it.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#113 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you supply evidence for a negative?
We've "mapped" genomes, but our ability to manipulate genetic material is very spotty. Epi-genetics, even in microorganisms, is still very conjectural or inferential.
A few methylation and chomatin observations and histone modifications do not constitute sufficient data to validate the hypotheses' application to more complex systems. Some even go so far as to object that "epigentics" is a misnomer because it remains to be demonstrated that any of these effects are heritable.
Now "epigenesis" is another kettle of tRNA entirely. lol
If your contention here is that the effects of gene switches are not measurable, that is simply not true. Scientists have been playing around with gene switches for awhile now. The measurements of what genes are turned on or off are taken via attaching fluorescent proteins that show an affinity to ATP as it binds to specific sequences of the genome. Granted, there is more work left to verify that some epigenetic factors are heritable, nonetheless, the measurement techniques are not a problem. Computational models (my field) are able to provide blueprints for the fluorescent proteins necessary to probe so deeply inside cells, and can even select the target molecules with high specificy.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#114 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So, we can't manipulate the material very well yet, and this proves ... what?
Also, I said evidence, not "proof." But I still fail to see what all this has to do with the topic at hand.
Keeping our side honest.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#115 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Keeping our side honest.
What "side?" I choose no sides, I am no one else, and I will remain no one else for the remainder of my life. You may choose sides, but I do not believe in them.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#116 Dec 29, 2012
fr NoQ:

>Pattysboi, are you a F**** with a womans name like Mona and Rose, or are you a f*** Dyke????<

I am a human being. That's all you need to know.

Grow UP and get help for your homophobia.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#117 Dec 29, 2012
fr NoQ:

>Pattysboi,...<

Reported.
Crooked liberal media

Kent, WA

#118 Dec 29, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
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Not to sound juvenile, but I must tell you of a conversation I've had with many homosexuals. When asked how gay men can be attracted to stinky, hairy butts, the gay men would invariably reply, that they didn't like stinky, hairy butts. They all said that they preferred soft butts with no hair...
Since they don't like women's butts, one can only conclude that they like boys' butts.
Excellent observation. I've noticed too that there is a common theme among homosexuals in terms kf their attraction to young boys...it's seems that to gays, the younger the man, the more attractive he is.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#120 Dec 29, 2012
Crooked liberal media wrote:
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Excellent observation. I've noticed too that there is a common theme among homosexuals in terms kf their attraction to young boys...it's seems that to gays, the younger the man, the more attractive he is.
Shawn Connery is young? He was one of the "most attractive men" in some gay magazine. So was Nicolas Cage, even Jack Nicholson. Johnny Depp is young too?

Do you even think about the crap you spew before you spew it. Top hottest celebs in women's magazines? Most are younger than 30, many younger than 25.

Since: Mar 09

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#121 Dec 29, 2012
Crooked liberal media wrote:
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Excellent observation. I've noticed too that there is a common theme among homosexuals in terms kf their attraction to young boys...it's seems that to gays, the younger the man, the more attractive he is.
American men don't like women who don't shave their legs and armpits. Does this mean that they are all attracted to prepubescent little girls?
Crooked liberal media

Kent, WA

#122 Dec 29, 2012
snyper wrote:
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American men don't like women who don't shave their legs and armpits. Does this mean that they are all attracted to prepubescent little girls?
Excellent observation. But in truth, most men prefer women who shave their legs and armpits so that they do not resemble men.

You people have to realize that coming to terms with the realities of human nature does not mean that any given individual is filled with hate for homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles and pedophiles.

I am quite aware that such people are in fact people, complete with feelings and hopes and dreams just like anyone else.

The homosexual community is nevertheless, opposing nature itself when they clammer for issues like gay marriage and when they flaunt their perversions in front of children and the public at large.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#123 Dec 29, 2012
Crooked liberal media wrote:
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Excellent observation. But in truth, most men prefer women who shave their legs and armpits so that they do not resemble men.
You people have to realize that coming to terms with the realities of human nature does not mean that any given individual is filled with hate for homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles and pedophiles.
I am quite aware that such people are in fact people, complete with feelings and hopes and dreams just like anyone else.
The homosexual community is nevertheless, opposing nature itself when they clammer for issues like gay marriage and when they flaunt their perversions in front of children and the public at large.
Why don't Europeans and most other not care about female body hair?

"opposing nature"? really? Samesex pairbondings occur in ALL species that pairbond.

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