Lesbian couple in gay marriage case prepares for Supreme Court decision

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1170 May 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare'a wrote;
Kinship is acknowledged in marriage because it most often results in 'kin'. The union of two family 'kins' creating a new branch on a family tree. Sometimes that branch never develops kin and dead ends.
A ss couple can NEVER establish a family tree or kinship.
Definition of KIN
1 a group of persons of common ancestry : clan
2 one's relatives : kindred
Don't call putting your head in someone's ass marriage. It clearly isn't.
Smile.
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Nothing you said changes the facts.
In fact, you bring up an interesting point. If a childless couple divorces and remarries, do they have two sets of kin? No. However, if that couple had children, they would forever be tied to each others family through their children.
The rest is so silly stupid, it is only evidence of the degree of denial the attempt to equate ss couples with marriage has led to.
-Ss couples cannot mutually procreate.
-Adoption can extend the family name, in name only. It does not establish 'kinship' in the true sense of the word. That is a simple fact that even adoptive parents acknowledge.
-At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Ss couple are a defective failure of mating behavior. Literally 'unmarriage'.
-Neither my wife nor I have ever been divorced. The slut lesbian in me has never been married.
-If salvation on Judgment Day is by performance, none of us will be smiling.
Smile.
so someone's wife or husband are not kin?

I think every legal and social writing and decision on the subject would show you to be as incredibly wrong as we all know you are...

take a little dip in the real world knowledge pool, it'll be refreshing!

Since: Apr 09

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#1171 May 6, 2013
Nobody wrote:
SS marriage is impossable not fesiable, no such thing, It is a false thing showing our children, needs to be thrown out of the court system. Its like saying it ok to lie,rape and murder.
You seriously need to crack open a window in your trailer. I think the fumes are getting to you.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1172 May 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I happen to have a letter, signed by THREE psychologists that states I am safe and able to live on my own.
Smile.
That doesn't mean you are sane. It means you are harmless. Why would anyone need a letter for that? Get into some trouble, did ya?
Nobody

Dallas, TX

#1173 May 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, in fact it is very real and has been for a long time.
sad that people like you can actually deny the real facts in front of your face. cult mentality...nothing more. go repeat your proven mythical cult mantras some more when faced with the real world...
Yeah its real sad that you don't know anything.
Nobody

Dallas, TX

#1174 May 6, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
You seriously need to crack open a window in your trailer. I think the fumes are getting to you.
Hey your the one who needs to crack a window.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1175 May 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, in fact it is very real and has been for a long time.
sad that people like you can actually deny the real facts in front of your face. cult mentality...nothing more. go repeat your proven mythical cult mantras some more when faced with the real world...
What makes you believe homosexuals are left out of marriage statutes???
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1176 May 6, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you believe homosexuals are left out of marriage statutes???
Seriously? You are one simple piece of work.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1177 May 6, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
The same is true of a large number of opposite sex couples.
You would need to ban ALL such couples from marrying, if you are trying to say that the ONLY legal reason for marriage is procreation.
Silly, of course. But, then, your arguments are usually silly.
Why does marriage exist in the first place? Why has been, through time and place, a virtual male female relationship, either monogamous, or polygynist?. There are two sexes, they have sex, and babies are made. That's why marriage exists in the first place. Remove that element, and why does it matters
Who marries who or doesn't marry?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1178 May 6, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they can. You can not change the letter of the law to mean what you would like it to mean.
Marriage establishes legal kinship. Adoption establishes legal kinship. Having biological creates kinship.
Try again.
Marriage establishes the relationship of husband and wife. Everything stems from that. The husband is presumed to be the father of any children born into the relationship. Also of any children that are adopted.
You need to PROVE the state interest in preventing gay folks who are similarly situated with straight couples, from establishing the same forms of legal kinship that straight folks can.
The only gay folks who are similarly situated with "straight" couples would be a gay couple of the opposite sex.
So, please provide the documentation proving that no straight person who is either infertile, chooses not to have biological children, or adopts, is allowed by law to form legal kinship bonds with any other adult through marriage.
Marriage establishes a man and woman as husband and wife.
If those straight couples are indeed allowed to marry, then gay folks would need to have that same right as well, as they are similarly situated.
As long as the couple is of the opposite sex.
After all, it would be hypocritical to apply a separate legal standard to ONLY gay folks, when they are similarly situated to straight folks who are actually encouraged to legally marry.
The legal standard is applied to all. All men, and all women.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1179 May 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so someone's wife or husband are not kin?
I think every legal and social writing and decision on the subject would show you to be as incredibly wrong as we all know you are...
take a little dip in the real world knowledge pool, it'll be refreshing!
Only because of the potential of procreation.

An impossibility with ss couples.

Or put another way, there will NEVER be a ss 'family' tree of kin.

Smirk.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1180 May 6, 2013
Marriage exists because humans figured out that breeding within the immediate family isn't really the best idea. It's one of many ways we have come up with of swapping "relatives" between family lines. It's been predominately an opposite sex relationship throughout history, because of the need to breed, but not exclusively so. There have been recorded same sex marriages in various parts of the world, off and on over much of human history.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1181 May 7, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Marriage exists because humans figured out that breeding within the immediate family isn't really the best idea. It's one of many ways we have come up with of swapping "relatives" between family lines. It's been predominately an opposite sex relationship throughout history, because of the need to breed, but not exclusively so. There have been recorded same sex marriages in various parts of the world, off and on over much of human history.
We can count the 'various' supposed ss 'marriages''throughout' history on one hand.

Marriage describes a unique relationship that ss couples can only duplicate in number of participants. As can numerous other relationships.

Snicker.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1182 May 7, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Marriage exists because humans figured out that breeding within the immediate family isn't really the best idea. It's one of many ways we have come up with of swapping "relatives" between family lines. It's been predominately an opposite sex relationship throughout history, because of the need to breed, but not exclusively so.
Sounds logical. Two sexes, they have sex, babies are created. It seems to b a universal cross time, cross cultural feature of marriage.
There have been recorded same sex marriages in various parts of the world, off and on over much of human history.
True there are scattered historical examples of recognized same sex unions, not all were deemed "marriage", however, "gay marriage" is a modern western invention. Why was there no sustained, with deep historical roots, cross cultural, cross time practice of same sex marriage, at least in Western Civilization?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1183 May 7, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Why does marriage exist in the first place? Why has been, through time and place, a virtual male female relationship, either monogamous, or polygynist?. There are two sexes, they have sex, and babies are made. That's why marriage exists in the first place. Remove that element, and why does it matters
Who marries who or doesn't marry?
Oh no you didn't use a logical fallacy to prove your point.....

Of course you did. You don't know any better.

Marriage exists because people have babies? What color is the sky on your planet?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1184 May 7, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
We can count the 'various' supposed ss 'marriages''throughout' history on one hand.
Marriage describes a unique relationship that ss couples can only duplicate in number of participants. As can numerous other relationships.
Snicker.
Sort of like your inner lesbian and your beard wife?

No fool like an old fool. Watch history pass you right by, you relic.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1185 May 7, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Marriage exists because humans figured out that breeding within the immediate family isn't really the best idea. It's one of many ways we have come up with of swapping "relatives" between family lines. It's been predominately an opposite sex relationship throughout history, because of the need to breed, but not exclusively so.
We we just 'breed' huh?? We don't procreate??? Did your parents 'breed'???
There have been recorded same sex marriages in various parts of the world, off and on over much of human history.
This is a lie!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1187 May 7, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
Sounds logical. Two sexes, they have sex, babies are created. It seems to b a universal cross time, cross cultural feature of marriage.
Was there supposed to be a point there, somewhere? There have been opposite sex marriages as long as there have been marriages. Kinda stating the obvious, don't ya think?
Pietro Armando wrote:
True there are scattered historical examples of recognized same sex unions, not all were deemed "marriage", however, "gay marriage" is a modern western invention. Why was there no sustained, with deep historical roots, cross cultural, cross time practice of same sex marriage, at least in Western Civilization?
Because there hasn't been a continuous acceptance of homosexuality and/or homosexual behavior in any culture. There are a lot of us, but in terms of a percentage of the population, never so much and that leaves us at the mercy of the mood of the heterosexual super majority.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1188 May 7, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
We we just 'breed' huh?? We don't procreate??? Did your parents 'breed'???
Main Entry:
procreate &#8194;
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: reproduce
Synonyms: beget, BREED, conceive, create, engender, father, generate, get, give birth to, hatch, impregnate, make, mother, multiply, originate, parent, produce, progenerate, proliferate, propagate, sire, spawn
Get That Fool wrote:
This is a lie!
It is dear? Care to prove it?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1189 May 7, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Was there supposed to be a point there, somewhere? There have been opposite sex marriages as long as there have been marriages. Kinda stating the obvious, don't ya think?
Simply responding to what you wrote:

Rick in Kansas wrote:
Marriage exists because humans figured out that breeding within the immediate family isn't really the best idea. It's one of many ways we have come up with of swapping "relatives" between family lines. It's been predominately an opposite sex relationship throughout history, because of the need to breed, but not exclusively so.
Because there hasn't been a continuous acceptance of homosexuality and/or homosexual behavior in any culture. There are a lot of us, but in terms of a percentage of the population, never so much and that leaves us at the mercy of the mood of the heterosexual super majority.
There seems to be a great rejection of/less tolerance of same sex sexual behavior, more so male than female, on western civilization than other parts of the world. Would u agree, or disagree?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1190 May 7, 2013
A long running theme in Western male thought has been the notion that women really didn't enjoy sex. They were only there because it was their wifely duty or you were paying them for their time. Early "sodomy" laws rarely covered female/female sex, if they didn't enjoy it with men, why on Earth would they enjoy it with a woman? The acceptance and rejection of homosexuality/same sex acts has ebbed and flowed, men usually taking the brunt of it when rejection sets in.

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