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Orthodox believers can call themselves Baha'i

There are 2 comments on the EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA story from Nov 26, 2010, titled Orthodox believers can call themselves Baha'i. In it, EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA reports that:

Disqus Orthodox believers can call themselves Baha'i By Manya A. Brachear Sat Nov 27, 2010, 12:48 AM EST CHICAGO - A federal court in Chicago has ruled that a group of self-proclaimed orthodox Baha'i believers can keep calling themselves Baha'i despite a 1966 court decision that said an earlier breakaway group could not.

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Freedom of Conscience

Battle Creek, MI

#1 Nov 28, 2010
It's an interesting ruling by the US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals that affects all of the nearly dozen Bahai denominations. Here are the highlights of it from my reading:

7th Cir: Public online 08-2306 case documents
Opinion in case# 08-2306
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx... \
um=2306

p 7: False finding of "fact" by Judge Austin in 1966

p 13: "...civil authorities may not make judgments about religious controversies when deciding church property disputes. Kedroff, 344 U.S. at 116.(The church-autonomy principle recognized in Watson “must now be said to have federal constitutional protection as a part of the free exercise of religion against state interference.”)."
"Building on Kedroff, the Supreme Court held in Presbyterian Church that “the First Amendment severely circumscribes the role that civil courts may play in resolving church property disputes.”

p 14-15: "Considered in light of these First Amendment limitations on the court’s authority, certain aspects of the 1966 injunction are troubling. The decree declares that “there is only one Baha’i Faith,” that Shoghi Effendi was its last Guardian and none has come since, and the National Spiritual Assembly was its representative and “highest authority” in the United States and was “entitled to exclusive use of the marks and symbols of the Faith,” including the exclusive use of the word “Bahá’í.” Declarations of this sort push the boundaries of the court’s authority under Kedroff and Presbyterian Church. In church property disputes (trademark suits obviously qualify), the First Amendment limits the sphere in which civil courts may operate. When a district judge takes sides in a religious schism, purports to decide matters of spiritual succession, and excludes dissenters from using the name, symbols, and marks of the faith (as distinct from the name and marks of a church), the First Amendment line appears to have been crossed."

p 17: "’It is a principle of general application in Anglo-American jurisprudence that one is not
bound by a judgment in personam in a litigation in which he is not designated as a party or to which he has not been made a party by service of process.’”"

p 20: The court expands on and concludes that the parties were simply not in privity with the 1966 flawed decision by Judge Austin.

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/US_7...
Freedom of Conscience

Battle Creek, MI

#2 Dec 1, 2010
The root of the problem with the Wilmette, Haifan interpretation of the Baha'u'llah's Teachings is that it leaves out Abdul-Baha's actual 1912 Authentic Covenant, substituting the spurious will and testament forged by Shoghi Effendi's family in 1921.

The Bahai Faith can be Reformed but only by returning to the Interpretation clearly outlined by Abdul-Baha in Europe and America prior to his death. The evidence and record of his Interpretation has been preserved in the Star of the West for anyone willing to read with an independent mind, free of the decades of deception and brainwashing into blind belief administered by the Haifans.

Opinion of US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, Case No. 08-2306
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/US_7...

Judge: Baha'i believers can call themselves Baha'i Chicago BreakingNews November 23, 2010

Federal appeals court rules in favor of splinter Baha'i group Orthodox believers can keep calling themselves Baha'i, court says. November 25, 2010 By Manya A. Brachear, Chicago Tribune reporter. Single page layout:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/11/fe...

Breakaway Baha’i can still use name. The Spokesman-Review, November 26, 2010

7th Circuit Court of Appeals Judges hammer NSA's attorney 2-20-09 (3 minute MP3 from the court website)
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/USCo...

7th Cir: Public online 08-2306 case documents
Opinion in case# 08-2306
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx... \ um=2306

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