Summary of gay marriage cases before ...

Summary of gay marriage cases before appeals court

There are 9 comments on the Star-Telegram.com story from Aug 7, 2014, titled Summary of gay marriage cases before appeals court. In it, Star-Telegram.com reports that:

The Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments Wednesday on six gay marriage fights from Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee on Wednesday, setting the stage for one ruling.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Aug 8, 2014
Actually it will be 6 rulings in 6 different cases.

It would be really interesting if they upheld the state bans on marrying, but overturned the state bans on recognizing marriages performed in other states.

We'll know in about 2-3 months...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Aug 8, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Actually I was of the mind until recently that SCOTUS should do as you say and uphold the state bans on marrying, but overturn the state bans on recognizing marriages performed in other states.
But I changed my mind a few months ago. Marriage has long been recognized in the U.S. as a fundamental RIGHT protected by the U.S. Constitution. Ad denying LGBT Americans their right to marry whom they choose, regardless of gender violates at LEAST the 1st Amendment and the 14th Amendment.
So no, I don't think that the courts, including SCOTUS shoulr rule that way. I think they should rule that states simply cannot ban LGBT Americans from marrying whom they choose. It's a U.S. constitutional RIGHT to do so.
And I am optimistic that we shall prevail soon, and may even do so by having all of the federal appeals courts rule in our favor, thus obviating the need for SCOTUS to decide the issue.
Obviously I would prefer the SCOTUS simply overturn all the remaining bans this coming term. But I was thinking the SCOTUS could use this as another opportunity to delay things for another year- which seems to be their preference- by taking either the Ohio or Kentucky cases which deal only with recognizing out-of-state marriages, and just passing on the other cases.

That would be more of a two-step process to equality; giving us a significant victory while still allowing the circuit courts to continue working things out with the rest of the state bans. Assuming there are clear conflicting rulings amongst multiple circuit appeals courts, then the SCOTUS will step in again for a final ruling.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Aug 8, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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But if things work out for the best for us, all of the federal appeals courts will agree with us, thus obviating a need for SCOTUS to decide.
It's about a 50-50 chance with the 6th circuit, depending on which way Judge Sutton goes. I'd say the 5th & 7th circuit is going to be even more of a challenge.
Belle Sexton

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Aug 8, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Actually it will be 6 rulings in 6 different cases.
It would be really interesting if they upheld the state bans on marrying, but overturned the state bans on recognizing marriages performed in other states.
We'll know in about 2-3 months...
That would be a likely compromise IFF the arguments in the cases allowed for it.
Abrahammock Regions

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Aug 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Actually I was of the mind until recently....SCOTUS to decide the issue.
You were of the "mind" that Scaliar and Uncle Thomas Clarence would be pro marriage equality votes in Prop 8.

Obviously you have a clue about exactly nothing.
Abrahammock Regions

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Aug 9, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Scalia voted FOR our side on Prop 8, you dope !
And why don't you just please ignore all my posts ? You are obviously very INSANE.
I did make an error. You blathered from your insane, racist haze that Scaliar and Uncle Thomas Clarence would be votes in favor of marriage equality.

SCOTUS did not directly vote on Prop 8.

Contrary to your know nothing, absurd brayings, neither Scaliar nor Uncle Thomas Clarence were on our side for Windsor.

I'll reply to your stupid, racist posts whenever I like. What I won't do is engage in conversation with you, you dumb pos.
HamHock Regions

Hayward, CA

#11 Aug 10, 2014
Abrahammock Regions wrote:
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I did make an error. You blathered from your insane, racist haze that Scaliar and Uncle Thomas Clarence would be votes in favor of marriage equality.
SCOTUS did not directly vote on Prop 8.
Contrary to your know nothing, absurd brayings, neither Scaliar nor Uncle Thomas Clarence were on our side for Windsor.
I'll reply to your stupid, racist posts whenever I like. What I won't do is engage in conversation with you, you dumb pos.
Sounds very gay.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#12 Aug 10, 2014
While Scalia does not support gay marriage it is telling that they could not get 5 votes to uphold the ban on gay marriage. If they could you can bet Scalia and his cohorts would have found standing. Thus, it seems like a risk free excercise to keep prodding at SCOTUS.
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Aug 10, 2014
Yakitori wrote:
While Scalia does not support gay marriage it is telling that they could not get 5 votes to uphold the ban on gay marriage. If they could you can bet Scalia and his cohorts would have found standing. Thus, it seems like a risk free excercise to keep prodding at SCOTUS.
Kennedy is not risk free on finding some overall right to marriage in equality in the Consitution, but it still looks promising as more and more lower court decisions pave the way.

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