Religious implications of N.Y. federal appeals court striking down DOMA

Oct 19, 2012 | Posted by: Gay And Proud | Full story: www.washingtonpost.com

This November, four states will be voting on marriage. Maine, Maryland, Washington and Minnesota all have ballot initiatives that will either ban or allow marriage equality for all their citizens. In Minnesota, voters will decide whether to amend the state constitution to prevent gay and lesbian citizens from entering into marriage. Maine, Maryland and Washington will ask their citizens to vote on legislation that has already passed through the legislature and been signed into law to allow all citizens access to the institution of marriage and the protections that come with that institution. Interestingly, all of these votes will come just weeks after the Second Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is unconstitutional.

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The are NO "religious implications" in civil marriage equality.

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The are NO "religious implications" in civil marriage equality.
OBVIOUSLY true.

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Article is well worth the read. Note the author of the piece.

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Good article.
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It's funny to me that certain religions claim the whole marriage thing as their own - their invention, their sacrament. The Catholic church is probably the chief of these.

When viewed in history, however, we see that the church did not want anything to do with marriage, for centuries. During its early centuries, the fledgling Christian religion didn't want anything to do with sex at all, since their savior was returning any day now and it just wasn't important. Better that all Christians just be celibate, they wouldn't have long to wait.

It only became a "sacrament" in the 14th century, when some church quisling must have realized that there was MONEY to be made here!(And probably recognizing that "any day now" was taking longer than expected.)
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Qwerty26 wrote:
It's funny to me that certain religions claim the whole marriage thing as their own - their invention, their sacrament. The Catholic church is probably the chief of these.
When viewed in history, however, we see that the church did not want anything to do with marriage, for centuries. During its early centuries, the fledgling Christian religion didn't want anything to do with sex at all, since their savior was returning any day now and it just wasn't important. Better that all Christians just be celibate, they wouldn't have long to wait.
It only became a "sacrament" in the 14th century, when some church quisling must have realized that there was MONEY to be made here!(And probably recognizing that "any day now" was taking longer than expected.)
Of all faiths only one will look the other way if you sleep with a pig. Take your time.

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Oink Oink Oink Oink Oink wrote:
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Of all faiths only one will look the other way if you sleep with a pig. Take your time.
Obviously the one your spouse belongs to.

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Of all faiths only one will look the other way if you sleep with a pig. Take your time.
Elaborate? Ehh... Never mind, you're being irrational to the point of absurdity.

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As the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
The are NO "religious implications" in civil marriage equality.
Conversely, I don't understand why religions from all over the world treat marriage as a religious ceremony. Marriage until very recently was about economics and not love (and still is in some places). It isn't really a rite of passage as some societies recognize polygamy or even plural marriage, plus it can occur multiple times in societies that don't due to divorce. People should get over the idea that it is something holy and treat it as a civil contract. If the religious want to celebrate anything related to a couple, they should celebrate anniversaries, not marriage. How can something be sacred when in some cases it lasts only 3 days?
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"There is another important factor in Thursday’s court decision on the unconstitutionality of DOMA. Namely, when voters pass a law or a constitutional amendment to strip citizens of their rights, the US government, with its system of checks and balances, has the means to protect those whose rights have been taken from them. This is one of the many reasons why state initiatives to deny others their rights – in this case, the right to marry – are bound to fail at the end."

Rev. J. Manny Santiago, pastor of University Baptist Church in Seattle

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Qwerty26 wrote:
It's funny to me that certain religions claim the whole marriage thing as their own - their invention, their sacrament. The Catholic church is probably the chief of these.
When viewed in history, however, we see that the church did not want anything to do with marriage, for centuries. During its early centuries, the fledgling Christian religion didn't want anything to do with sex at all, since their savior was returning any day now and it just wasn't important. Better that all Christians just be celibate, they wouldn't have long to wait.
It only became a "sacrament" in the 14th century, when some church quisling must have realized that there was MONEY to be made here!(And probably recognizing that "any day now" was taking longer than expected.)
Those were Saul's followers.

Just another one of Saul's predictions that didn't come true.
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Mona Lott wrote:
"There is another important factor in Thursday’s court decision on the unconstitutionality of DOMA. Namely, when voters pass a law or a constitutional amendment to strip citizens of their rights, the US government, with its system of checks and balances, has the means to protect those whose rights have been taken from them. This is one of the many reasons why state initiatives to deny others their rights – in this case, the right to marry – are bound to fail at the end."
Rev. J. Manny Santiago, pastor of University Baptist Church in Seattle
Citizens have an obligation and moral code to uphold within any society. Gays failed and politians and judges have all failed for decades so now you can no longer blame 'straight' people and we can continue to destroy this country and the rest of the world with it.

There will come a day

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There will come a day
http://therapists.psychologyto day.com/rms/state/MA.html
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snyper wrote:
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Those were Saul's followers.
Just another one of Saul's predictions that didn't come true.
From Jesus' lips:“Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”- Matthew 24:34

The things he was talking about included his return.

I say, "2000 years of 'any day now.'"

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Soft Baby Boy Bottoms wrote:
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Citizens have an obligation and moral code to uphold within any society. Gays failed and politians and judges have all failed for decades so now you can no longer blame 'straight' people and we can continue to destroy this country and the rest of the world with it.
There will come a day
If this supposedly has been happening for decades then when will this day of yours supposedly come??

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If this supposedly has been happening for decades then when will this day of yours supposedly come??
The day he finally walks into the office of the qualified mental health professional his rantings cry out for.
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<quoted text>The day he finally walks into the office of the qualified mental health professional his rantings cry out for.
He's too chicken shit to go.

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Religious implications? Maybe the fact that people will realize there are no religious implications, but that's all.

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Religious implications? Maybe the fact that people will realize there are no religious implications, but that's all.
Actually, there are deep religious implications, but they are only for those churches that already marry gay couples.

THEIR freedom to express their religious beliefs will finally be respected, while not harming a single denomination who feels differently.

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