ACLU dealt setback in suit over bibli...

ACLU dealt setback in suit over biblical monument

There are 53 comments on the Daily Report story from Aug 16, 2012, titled ACLU dealt setback in suit over biblical monument. In it, Daily Report reports that:

The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida in 2011 had persuaded a federal district court judge to order removal of the monument.

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jan tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#1 Aug 30, 2012
"Religious freedom is alive and well in our country, specifically because government can't tell us what to believe, and it cannot favor one religion over another," said Johnson [Baylor Johnson, a spokesman for the ACLU of Florida]

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/PubArticleDR...

yes,Mr. Johnson, religious freedom is alive and well in Dixie County, and Bradford County, Florida. Now, please, explain how mr. cooney's religious freedom trumps the religious freedom of all other Americans. To my knowledge, Cooney has not been deprived of his religious freedom ,in any way-shape-or form. On the other hand your suit against Dixie and Bradford Counties-is indirectly-an attack on the religious freedom of the citizens who presented the monuments to the people of their own counties.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#2 Aug 30, 2012
"To my knowledge, Cooney has not been deprived of his religious freedom ,in any way-shape-or form."

Well that's the problem, Jan. Your knowledge of the topic is downright pathetic.
jan tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#3 Aug 30, 2012
Strel wrote:
"To my knowledge, Cooney has not been deprived of his religious freedom ,in any way-shape-or form."
Well that's the problem, Jan. Your knowledge of the topic is downright pathetic.
Or his right to freely exercise his belief.So what's the problem???

People don't like the way their county officials operate ,let them vote them out.... Any attack on any commissioner is an attack on those he/she represents... sad... cooney [and Doe]can't sue the people who placed the monuments but can sue a county of people....
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#4 Aug 31, 2012
jan tetstone wrote:
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Or his right to freely exercise his belief.So what's the problem???
People don't like the way their county officials operate ,let them vote them out.... Any attack on any commissioner is an attack on those he/she represents... sad... cooney [and Doe]can't sue the people who placed the monuments but can sue a county of people....
It's NOT A FREE EXERCISE ISSUE.

Why can you not understand this?

YOU HAVE NO CLUE.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#5 Aug 31, 2012
I know it was private citizens who placed those monuments....I know that cooney cannot sue the ones who actually bought and placed it there.... so the petition to the court twists words 'a little' to make it appear that the county bought and placed the monument....

I do not think that the court should do indirectly what it can't do directly....
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#6 Aug 31, 2012
Jan Tetstone wrote:
I know it was private citizens who placed those monuments....I know that cooney cannot sue the ones who actually bought and placed it there.... so the petition to the court twists words 'a little' to make it appear that the county bought and placed the monument....
I do not think that the court should do indirectly what it can't do directly....
OK. I get it. You're retarded.

I've explained it to you over and over again and you still don't seem to understand that the problem is that the county permitted the monument to be placed. THAT act is the issue, not whether the people who placed it were "private citizens."

THAT ACT was an act of endorsement of a religion in violation of the Establishment clause. There is no "twisting." You just do not understand the law.

What you think is irrelevant. It's also laughably wrong.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#7 Aug 31, 2012
If you think I am wrong-why bother replying to my posts?

Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#8 Aug 31, 2012
Because other people read these, and I will not have them infected with your ignorance.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#9 Aug 31, 2012
You would rather they be infected with your Un-American BS?
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#10 Aug 31, 2012
Jan Tetstone wrote:
You would rather they be infected with your Un-American BS?
Wow, you think Jefferson and Adams were un-American?

These are their ideas, not mine.

Your ignorance is quite pernicious.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#11 Aug 31, 2012
Your opinions-as expressed on these boards- is nothing like Thomas Jefferson's...
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#12 Aug 31, 2012
He would probably be more polite, though after several weeks of trying to get basic Ameican civics through your supernaturally thick skull I think even he would lose patience with you and give up.
But if you think he would disagree with me, then you don't know your Jefferson very well...or even at all.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#13 Aug 31, 2012
All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; ***that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.***

Thomas Jefferson

Majority rules applies except for minority rights, which are enshrined in the Constitution. The Constitution limits majority rule for those things we hold sacred in this country: freedom of speech, religion, etc.

How ironic that you call me anti-American while you wipe your wrinkled ass with its founding document.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#14 Aug 31, 2012
Strel wrote:
He would probably be more polite, though after several weeks of trying to get basic Ameican civics through your supernaturally thick skull I think even he would lose patience with you and give up.
But if you think he would disagree with me, then you don't know your Jefferson very well...or even at all.
And, apparently, you have never met the Thomas Jefferson I have come to know through written words...
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#15 Sep 1, 2012
Jan Tetstone wrote:
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And, apparently, you have never met the Thomas Jefferson I have come to know through written words...
Don't make me quote him to prove you wrong.

Jefferson and Adams felt VERY strongly about the separation of church and state.
Jan Tetstone

Gainesville, FL

#16 Sep 1, 2012
Strel wrote:
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Don't make me quote him to prove you wrong.
Jefferson and Adams felt VERY strongly about the separation of church and state.
What are you waiting for? Quote away.....
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#17 Sep 1, 2012
Not going to waste my time trying to educate someone who cannot be educated.
Jan Tetstone

Williston, FL

#18 Sep 1, 2012
Like you won't answer the posters who challenged your opinion about Baldwin..lol
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#19 Sep 1, 2012
I don't care about Baldwin. It's not relevant.

You seem keen to discuss him since you have gotten your fat wrinkled ass kicked on the actual topic.

If you are that keen to see my response on Baldwin, you can search these boards to see how I have already debunked that nonsense many times already.

Or you could discuss the issue at hand, unless you are chickenshit.
jan tetstone

Williston, FL

#20 Sep 1, 2012
You must really be upset that people-including judges-are waking up to just how low the ACLU will sink to tear down verything Americans worked so hard to build.....But of course it was the few who built this nation-and according to you ... who guard the few from the mean ole christian majority...lol

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