FBI to seize school hard drives in Kendrick Johnson probe, source says

Dec 19, 2013 Full story: CNN 68

The FBI was expected Thursday to seize the original hard drives from the surveillance system at Lowndes High School, where 17-year-old Kendrick Johnson was found dead in a rolled-up gym mat earlier this year, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation surrounding the hard drives.

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TOAD Armtrong

Valdosta, GA

#1 Dec 20, 2013
The grand jury does not determine guilt or innocence in a case, and thus a true bill IS NOT a conviction, only an endorsement of the charges that were presented to the grand jury.
TOAD Armtrong

Valdosta, GA

#2 Dec 20, 2013
What I am curious about is how often a Grand Jury actually decides that there isn't enough evidence to hold someone accountable for a crime. It seems like in all the example I hear that they usually error on the side of guilt and let the court and a jury decide whether they are truly guilty.

I can't recall ever hearing a story about people being upset because the grand jury indictment process decided that there wasn't enough evidence. I'm sure it has happened, but not in many big crimes.

Why use a Grand Jury on the Schools's Hard Drives? The F.B.I. is covering their ass. As they will in this case. It's been said an F.B.I's Son may be a part of this case. So, no stone will be left un-turned. And this is good.

STM

“KEEP IT CLASSY”

Since: Feb 09

~~~Crazy Town USA~~~

#3 Dec 20, 2013
TOAD Armtrong wrote:
What I am curious about is how often a Grand Jury actually decides that there isn't enough evidence to hold someone accountable for a crime. It seems like in all the example I hear that they usually error on the side of guilt and let the court and a jury decide whether they are truly guilty.
I can't recall ever hearing a story about people being upset because the grand jury indictment process decided that there wasn't enough evidence. I'm sure it has happened, but not in many big crimes.
Why use a Grand Jury on the Schools's Hard Drives? The F.B.I. is covering their ass. As they will in this case. It's been said an F.B.I's Son may be a part of this case. So, no stone will be left un-turned. And this is good.
A talking head from HLN once said, the GJ would indict a ham and cheese sandwich.

And I agree with you, some of the rants Ive seen on social media lead me to believe this never ending conspiracy will continue to grow regardless of the outcome.
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#4 Dec 20, 2013
In the Jodi Arias case the cops recovered DELETED pictures from the SIM card. And this SIM card went through a washing. So, I am sure the F.B.I. will find any thing that may be wrong (Illegal) on the school's hard drives. In tme we should all know the truth.

The rants I've seen on social media and the news medias are disturbing forsure.
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#5 Dec 20, 2013
Te F.B.I. is smarter than the average Bear. Interesting read.

http://www.newkerala.com/news/story/99423/fbi...

Never say never..........
Oasis

Hope Mills, NC

#6 Dec 20, 2013
Why would it take a "grand jury" to subpoena the hard drives?

Are all the judges in the great state of Georgia wimps?
Couldn't find one to put his name on the subpoena?
Hiding behind the cloak of grand jury confidentiality?

Good grief.....:(
Coordinated incompetence.......
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#7 Dec 20, 2013
Oasis wrote:
Why would it take a "grand jury" to subpoena the hard drives?
Are all the judges in the great state of Georgia wimps?
Couldn't find one to put his name on the subpoena?
Hiding behind the cloak of grand jury confidentiality?
Good grief.....:(
Coordinated incompetence.......
Oasis, if you cannot say some thing nice about Georgia please keep your mouth shut as you as showing just how dumb you are.

The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand Jury ..........duh!!!!!!!!!!
Oasis

Hope Mills, NC

#8 Dec 20, 2013
TOAD Armstrong wrote:
<quoted text>
Oasis, if you cannot say some thing nice about Georgia please keep your mouth shut as you as showing just how dumb you are.
The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand Jury ..........duh!!!!!!!!!!
I actually enjoyed living in the great state of Georgia. I have many happy memories there.

I did not know that records/documents/testimony the FBI wants must be subpoenaed through a grand jury.
I don't think a grand jury is required for state level prosecutors wanting information for their investigators, maybe I am wrong there, too.

I ASSumed one Federal Judge would have enough power to do that.
The FBI would LOVE to not have to go through ANY court to obtain info, but I digress.

Thanks for making me a little less dumb.:)

CNN is headquartered in GA, what's not to love about that?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#9 Dec 20, 2013
TOAD Armstrong wrote:
<quoted text>
The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand Jury ..........duh!!!!!!!!!!
Duh, finish the sentence.

The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand jury to:_________

This ought to be good. LOL!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#10 Dec 20, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually enjoyed living in the great state of Georgia. I have many happy memories there.
I did not know that records/documents/testimony the FBI wants must be subpoenaed through a grand jury.
I don't think a grand jury is required for state level prosecutors wanting information for their investigators, maybe I am wrong there, too.
I ASSumed one Federal Judge would have enough power to do that.
The FBI would LOVE to not have to go through ANY court to obtain info, but I digress.
Thanks for making me a little less dumb.:)
CNN is headquartered in GA, what's not to love about that?
You're certainly not "less dumb" if you believe a Federal Grand Jury is required to lead an FBI investigation.

The FBI investigates on behalf of the Federal Prosecutor, who obviously is gathering evidence in the hopes the GJ will indict their suspect.
Oasis

Hope Mills, NC

#11 Dec 21, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
You're certainly not "less dumb" if you believe a Federal Grand Jury is required to lead an FBI investigation.
The FBI investigates on behalf of the Federal Prosecutor, who obviously is gathering evidence in the hopes the GJ will indict their suspect.
So, Mr. Moore is building a case to take before a Fed GJ and any subpoenas associated with his investigation are generically known as federal grand jury subpoenas? Not that he went before a FGJ and had his subpoenas "stamped" by said judicial body? That does seem cumbersome.

Any info brought before the FGJ just has the generic federal gj name applied due to the level of prosecution?

I have been harping about those hard drives. Maybe he has had them for quite some time, but had to obtain an fgj subpoena to certify the info for the FGJ?

Kind of a all "I"s dotted and all "T"s crossed procedural issue?

I am so-o-o-o dumb.....
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#12 Dec 21, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, finish the sentence.
The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand jury to:_________
This ought to be good. LOL!
Rambler, had you read my reply you would know my sentence was finished. "Federal" get it now DA.
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#13 Dec 21, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually enjoyed living in the great state of Georgia. I have many happy memories there.
I did not know that records/documents/testimony the FBI wants must be subpoenaed through a grand jury.
I don't think a grand jury is required for state level prosecutors wanting information for their investigators, maybe I am wrong there, too.
I ASSumed one Federal Judge would have enough power to do that.
The FBI would LOVE to not have to go through ANY court to obtain info, but I digress.
Thanks for making me a little less dumb.:)
CNN is headquartered in GA, what's not to love about that?
Federal Grand Jury subpoena "Duces Tecum"
Duh

Loganville, GA

#14 Dec 21, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, finish the sentence.
The F.B.I. uses a Federal Grand jury to:_________
This ought to be good. LOL!
Like any other type of intangible information, computer files and data should be
considered seized for Fourth Amendment purposes when the government copies, extracts,
records, saves, writes or prints it from its existing location to another medium.
Oasis

Hope Mills, NC

#15 Dec 21, 2013
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
Like any other type of intangible information, computer files and data should be
considered seized for Fourth Amendment purposes when the government copies, extracts,
records, saves, writes or prints it from its existing location to another medium.
Duh, I think we all get the need for a subpoena.
I get the "federal" subpoena.
I don't get the "grand jury" part.

Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>

Just put a few CNN Securities in the stockings this year.
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#16 Dec 22, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, I think we all get the need for a subpoena.
I get the "federal" subpoena.
I don't get the "grand jury" part.
Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>
Just put a few CNN Securities in the stockings this year.
Note to Oasis, Had DIRECTV called and ask them to cancel CNN I was told CNN comes in a package and they just could not cancel it. Being out of contract with DIRECTV I just told the young man to cancel DIRECTV. When I say I do not like Cesspool News Network I mean just that. I will get other TV but for now I save $160 per month in a TV bill thanks CNN for my savings. Who needs DIRECTV?
TOAD Armstrong

Valdosta, GA

#17 Dec 22, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, I think we all get the need for a subpoena.
I get the "federal" subpoena.
I don't get the "grand jury" part.
Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>
Just put a few CNN Securities in the stockings this year.
Oasis states,"Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>".

Obama wants things to run smooth dot the "i" and cross the "T'. in every thing. Did you forget a F.B.I.'s Son was a part of this or..........so the family says. So, Obama has got to do some thing right. LOL......:)
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#18 Dec 22, 2013
TOAD Armstrong wrote:
<quoted text>
Oasis states,"Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>".
Obama wants things to run smooth dot the "i" and cross the "T'. in every thing. Did you forget a F.B.I.'s Son was a part of this or..........so the family says. So, Obama has got to do some thing right. LOL......:)
I notice you've replaced involvement with the Sheriff's son to an FBI's son. A few weeks ago you ridiculed anyone who suggested Kendrick's death was anything but an accident by retorting with the required extent of a massive conspiracy by all students, teachers, detectives, medical examiners, etc.

So what's any different about the son of a FBI agent being involved as opposed to any other person causing and staging Kendrick's death? Why would hundreds of people protect some kid on account of what day job his father does? Frankly, that's old school thinking......but perhaps such is Valdosta, Georgia.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#19 Dec 22, 2013
Oasis wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, I think we all get the need for a subpoena.
I get the "federal" subpoena.
I don't get the "grand jury" part.
Why are we even aware of this development?
I thought the FBI activities were "hush-hush". <shrug>
Just put a few CNN Securities in the stockings this year.
I agree, the anonymous source is questionable. Considering the subpoena had not yet been served, anyone with "knowledge of investigation of the hard drive" wouldn't necessarily know a subpoena had been issued. Besides, examination of the hard drive is routine process to ensure the security tapes are reliable - hardly newsworthy.....that's simply a matter of investigative due diligence.

Possibly this is an example of a media headline intentionally used somewhat as a red herring.

IMO the involvement of a Federal Grand Jury is far more intriguing and a strong indication Kendrick's death has already been deemed UNaccidental.
*****

FBI to seize school hard drives in Kendrick Johnson probe, source says
From Victor Blackwell, CNN
updated 7:13 PM EST, Thu December 19, 2013

(CNN)-- The FBI was expected Thursday to seize the original hard drives from the surveillance system at Lowndes High School, where 17-year-old Kendrick Johnson was found dead in a rolled-up gym mat earlier this year, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation surrounding the hard drives.

U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Georgia Michael Moore issued a grand jury subpoena to seize the hard drives, the source said.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/19/us/kendrick-joh...
TOAD Armstronger

North Kingstown, RI

#20 Dec 22, 2013
I'm excited, you are all very dumb. So is the rest of your state. I'm not making that up, don't you ever wonder why you often find yourself saying I'm not dum. It's because your dumb toad, a 700 lb gym mat you said, still laughing my azz off at u. Guess what ur singing to a different tune now toad, the Feds are coming in and ur dumb azz town is gonna be revealed across the world for how disgusting it's is. Morale of the story, don't go on forums trying to convince people the black boy killed himself. Idiots.

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