Watching the Greens Kill Australia

Watching the Greens Kill Australia

There are 39 comments on the AmmoLand story from Jul 25, 2012, titled Watching the Greens Kill Australia. In it, AmmoLand reports that:

Fortunately for America, President Obama's effort to impose a cap-and-trade law on carbon dioxide emission failed in a Democrat controlled Congress, that saw how disastrous its impact would have been in a time of economic distress.

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Since: Dec 10

Armadale, Australia

#1 Jul 26, 2012
God help us!....there is stil some sanity.
Mal

Brunswick, Australia

#2 Jul 26, 2012
I wouldn't know what to do without my daily dose of Sulphur Dioxide fumes.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#3 Jul 26, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
God help us!....there is stil some sanity.
Seems there is but not much.

Tonight after 10pm on ABC local radio's NightLife with Tony Delroy, a scientist is going to tell us why we don't believe the climate scientists...apparently.
Should be interesting.
Can grab it from the website later if desired etc..

http://www.abc.net.au/nightlife/

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#4 Jul 26, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
Tonight after 10pm on ABC local radio's NightLife with Tony Delroy, a scientist is going to tell us why we don't believe the climate scientists...apparently.
Should be interesting.
Can grab it from the website later if desired etc..
http://www.abc.net.au/nightlife/
Seems like the guy's an Jack-of-all-trades:
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Karl Kruszelnicki is a scientist, who is best known as an author and science commentator on Australian radio and television. He is often referred to as Dr Karl.

He holds degrees in mathematics, biomedical engineering, medicine and surgery. He has also studied astrophysics, computer science, and philosophy. He has worked as a physicist, labourer, roadie for bands, car mechanic, film-maker, hospital scientific officer, biomedical engineer, TV weatherman, taxi driver, and medical doctor.
Wiki

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#5 Jul 26, 2012
A Jack-of-all-trades.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#6 Jul 26, 2012
Yeah, he's a smart man, no doubt about that.
He's great at explaining scientific terms etc. in a language the rest of us can understand.

There's been a study done somewhere about why people don't believe climate scientists that the sky is falling etc. etc., apparently Dr Karl's going to discuss the results of that study with Tony on tonight's show.

Be worth tuning in to I reckon.
Anglo-Saxon Celt

Airds, Australia

#7 Jul 26, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
Be worth tuning in to I reckon.
Are you serious!! Boy you are the biggest lemming on the planet.

The ABC, and the SBS, are filled to the brim with marxist-leftist scum whos job is not to provide us with any real truth but instead to give the gullible sheeple like yourself your opinions and perceptions for you.

We dont need dr. dickhead karl or any other leftist loser to tell us why we do or dont believe in anything.

Get a clue FFS, people dont believe in global warming because its a scam.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#8 Jul 26, 2012
Anglo-Saxon Celt wrote:
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Are you serious!! Boy you are the biggest lemming on the planet.
Well, if you get your head out of your arse for a few seconds you'll notice I said it would be interesting to listen to, nothing more, nothing less.
Perhaps you should listen too, it is about the sky falling after all.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#9 Jul 26, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
Yeah, he's a smart man, no doubt about that.
He's great at explaining scientific terms etc. in a language the rest of us can understand.
There's been a study done somewhere about why people don't believe climate scientists that the sky is falling etc. etc., apparently Dr Karl's going to discuss the results of that study with Tony on tonight's show.
Be worth tuning in to I reckon.
Just hope he's not only in it for the money.
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“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#10 Jul 26, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Just hope he's not only in it for the money.
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After hearing the show I'm not sure why he's in it really, he's a true believer of AGW though, he made that obvious.
Apparently the main reason people don't believe is because humans as a species are irrational.

Since: Dec 10

Armadale, Australia

#11 Jul 26, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
After hearing the show I'm not sure why he's in it really, he's a true believer of AGW though, he made that obvious.
Apparently the main reason people don't believe is because humans as a species are irrational.
So that could be said of both sides of the debate then?
LOL

Stretton, Australia

#12 Jul 26, 2012
how long has the earth been in a state of climate change?

Since the Dinosaurs or before?

Since the last iceage or before?

The question is: Has the use of fossil fuels and the subsequent release of carbon coupled with the destruction of the earths lungs - you know trees produce oxygen - accelerated climate change in our time??????????

Since: Dec 10

Armadale, Australia

#13 Jul 26, 2012
LOL wrote:
how long has the earth been in a state of climate change?
Since the Dinosaurs or before?
Since the last iceage or before?
The question is: Has the use of fossil fuels and the subsequent release of carbon coupled with the destruction of the earths lungs - you know trees produce oxygen - accelerated climate change in our time??????????
I believe that of course there would be a change but not enough to change the climate....if you look at what a volcano that is erupting can spew out in two to three weeks of ignition then what we do in hundreds of years couldn't even match it....let alone drive climate change....we have had the firing of nuclear weapons testing of missiles, rockets going to the moon we are a destructive society but altering climate is definately a stretch....now that is not to say we shouldn't always look for a healthier and more efficient and less poluting sources for transport etc.....we should all try to live healthier....what we are failing to do is cut off the head of human produced polution by using band aids....STOP all industry first and foremost if people are serious, and stop pissing about...it is this that is causing the devastation of our forrests our losses of flora and fauna and the pumping of known harmful substances into the air....if govenments are not willing to do this then there is no hope no matter how much money you throw at it....When a government cannot produce a solid solution for the problem at hand it causes mass confusion because most people see a company being taxed for it's polution yet the polution goes on...their intent should be to close all factories bussinesses and companies causing the most harm and making the little poluters change tack by forcing them to implement change....this is a big ask it sounds absurd (in a country that relies on it for jobs for wealth) when you say it out loud doesn't it, CLOSE DOWN ALL THE MAJOR POLLUTERS! CLOSE THEM DOWN! but that is what it will take to halt the major imput of poison into our atmosphere...
Repulsive malbar Fixers

Ashburn, VA

#14 Jul 26, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I believe that of course there would be a change but not enough to change the climate....if you look at what a volcano that is erupting can spew out in two to three weeks of ignition then what we do in hundreds of years couldn't even match it....let alone drive climate change....we have had the firing of nuclear weapons testing of missiles, rockets going to the moon we are a destructive society but altering climate is definately a stretch....now that is not to say we shouldn't always look for a healthier and more efficient and less poluting sources for transport etc.....we should all try to live healthier....what we are failing to do is cut off the head of human produced polution by using band aids....STOP all industry first and foremost if people are serious, and stop pissing about...it is this that is causing the devastation of our forrests our losses of flora and fauna and the pumping of known harmful substances into the air....if govenments are not willing to do this then there is no hope no matter how much money you throw at it....When a government cannot produce a solid solution for the problem at hand it causes mass confusion because most people see a company being taxed for it's polution yet the polution goes on...their intent should be to close all factories bussinesses and companies causing the most harm and making the little poluters change tack by forcing them to implement change....this is a big ask it sounds absurd (in a country that relies on it for jobs for wealth) when you say it out loud doesn't it, CLOSE DOWN ALL THE MAJOR POLLUTERS! CLOSE THEM DOWN! but that is what it will take to halt the major imput of poison into our atmosphere...
Hey Granny Groznez ever heard of punctuation? Try hitting that Enter button now and again silly nignog.

Since: Dec 10

Armadale, Australia

#15 Jul 26, 2012
Repulsive malbar Fixers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Granny Groznez ever heard of punctuation? Try hitting that Enter button now and again silly nignog.
Yep I will do that very thing oops no full stop or comma
truth is I can't be bothered
LOLly

Stretton, Australia

#16 Jul 26, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe that of course there would be a change but not enough to change the climate....if you look at what a volcano that is erupting can spew out in two to three weeks of ignition then what we do in hundreds of years couldn't even match it....let alone drive climate change....we have had the firing of nuclear weapons testing of missiles, rockets going to the moon we are a destructive society but altering climate is definately a stretch....now that is not to say we shouldn't always look for a healthier and more efficient and less poluting sources for transport etc.....we should all try to live healthier....what we are failing to do is cut off the head of human produced polution by using band aids....STOP all industry first and foremost if people are serious, and stop pissing about...it is this that is causing the devastation of our forrests our losses of flora and fauna and the pumping of known harmful substances into the air....if govenments are not willing to do this then there is no hope no matter how much money you throw at it....When a government cannot produce a solid solution for the problem at hand it causes mass confusion because most people see a company being taxed for it's polution yet the polution goes on...their intent should be to close all factories bussinesses and companies causing the most harm and making the little poluters change tack by forcing them to implement change....this is a big ask it sounds absurd (in a country that relies on it for jobs for wealth) when you say it out loud doesn't it, CLOSE DOWN ALL THE MAJOR POLLUTERS! CLOSE THEM DOWN! but that is what it will take to halt the major imput of poison into our atmosphere...
AGREED Absolutely.
Nuclear...oh my!!!!!!!!!!

BUT GREED is what the earth is truly embattling.

Show me one government anywhere which does not support a multinational economy and the continuous growth syndrome.
This is what is truly unsustainable and is the real killer - chopping down trees, digging up the Reef, the Kimberley, excesses in the extreme of waste production, such an industry in itself, the over production and use of petro-chemical..LOL and even growing cotton and rice in a water challenged land like Australia.

I am certain, as any thinking person must it is all a deliberate and calculated programme of wealth gathering which we, including any neferious bespeckled or self righteous "Green" can do nothing about.

The only thing I can see in this so-called democracy is whichever political party is in power are only there to make new laws solely for self grandisement and larger pensions and their 15 minutes in their kiss a$$ spolight..paying homage to the greater powers that be...not to us the people.

If the planet is doomed so are we and so are they

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#17 Jul 26, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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So that could be said of both sides of the debate then?
Yes I guess it could, though I'm yet to hear a believer use it to justify their belief.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#18 Jul 27, 2012
_0rion_ wrote:
After hearing the show I'm not sure why he's in it really, he's a true believer of AGW though, he made that obvious.
Apparently the main reason people don't believe is because humans as a species are irrational.
Firstly, belief is for the religious.
That aside, I'm sure most people accept that Earth has warmed since the Little Ice Age and we should all be very thankful for that fact.
Globally, or so we're (hopefully) reliably informed, Earth has warmed 0.74 C since then, just enough to make it a little more comfortable for warm blooded animals.
How much of that warming was caused by human emissions, has yet to be decided.

Are we all irrational?
Maybe.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#19 Jul 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
...if you look at what a volcano that is erupting can spew out in two to three weeks of ignition then what we do in hundreds of years couldn't even match it....
If you're talking about CO2, that's not true. Volcano contribution to CO2 in the atmosphere isn't insignificant, but it's a small percentage of fossil fuel emissions.

Since: Dec 10

Armadale, Australia

#20 Jul 27, 2012
Steve Case wrote:
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If you're talking about CO2, that's not true. Volcano contribution to CO2 in the atmosphere isn't insignificant, but it's a small percentage of fossil fuel emissions.
I was talking about the damage of sulphur dioxides when they change to suphuric acid which can alter the earths temperature.... For instance the cloud from the Pinatabo volcano in 1978 cooled the earths surface for 3 years by 1.3 degrees.

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