Committee of 50 doesn't live up to ru...

Committee of 50 doesn't live up to rumors

There are 37 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Aug 9, 2013, titled Committee of 50 doesn't live up to rumors. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

We've all heard about those people that keep Target and Red Lobster from coming to Alamogordo.

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old timer

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Aug 10, 2013
sounds like the new mayor has fallen in with the good ol' boys of Alamo.
Yagets

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Aug 10, 2013
old timer wrote:
sounds like the new mayor has fallen in with the good ol' boys of Alamo.
Ya think so?? Should come as no surprise...rumor is that she will be seeking higher political office and will need the support (money) of the 50 to fund her campaign.

BTW - is their a list of the members of the C of 50?

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#3 Aug 10, 2013
All franchises require a certain population base number. No mystery man or group can keep one away if those qualifications are met.
Arthur Dent

Rio Rancho, NM

#4 Aug 10, 2013
BarbMoore wrote:
All franchises require a certain population base number. No mystery man or group can keep one away if those qualifications are met.
The claim of population of 50,000 doesn't hold water. Neither does the claim of chains that only build where there is direct access to interstate roads. Do a search and see what chains Clovis,NM has.
Clovis in not on an interstate and has a population of only 38,000-39,000. By the way- Clovis has a Red Lobster, a Bath and Body Works, Albertsons, Hobby Lobby and Harley Dealership among others.

Something else is keeping these stores and restaurants out of Alamogordo.
LoyalDem

Alamogordo, NM

#5 Aug 10, 2013
Arthur Dent wrote:
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The claim of population of 50,000 doesn't hold water. Neither does the claim of chains that only build where there is direct access to interstate roads. Do a search and see what chains Clovis,NM has.
Clovis in not on an interstate and has a population of only 38,000-39,000. By the way- Clovis has a Red Lobster, a Bath and Body Works, Albertsons, Hobby Lobby and Harley Dealership among others.
Something else is keeping these stores and restaurants out of Alamogordo.
You need to spend some time contacting the marketing departments of the retail/restaurants that you mentioned in your post. You will find that the 50K number holds. Alamogordo can't even support a craft department at Walmart - not to mention a local, mom&pop type craft operation (Hobby Lobby being the example you mentioned). Red Lobster, Bath and Body have sophisticated marketing analysis departments that look at population, purchasing trends, local buying power, income, age...... we're not there yet. NO ONE in this town would or could keep a company from moving here IF THEY REALLY WANTED to. Clovis may have a similar population but they're drawing folks in from a 100 mile radius. We aren't. With El Paso and Las Cruces as our neighbors, the surrounding rural residents need only drive there to eat at Olive Garden or shop at Bath and Body. Really, do your homework. Contact the companies. Call a marketing analysis company that specializes in determining what demographics are necessary to support a retail operation.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#6 Aug 10, 2013
Arthur Dent wrote:
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The claim of population of 50,000 doesn't hold water. Neither does the claim of chains that only build where there is direct access to interstate roads. Do a search and see what chains Clovis,NM has.
Clovis in not on an interstate and has a population of only 38,000-39,000. By the way- Clovis has a Red Lobster, a Bath and Body Works, Albertsons, Hobby Lobby and Harley Dealership among others.
Something else is keeping these stores and restaurants out of Alamogordo.
Las Cruces has those stores and probably count Alamogordo as part of their market.

Since: Sep 08

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#7 Aug 10, 2013
Any restaurant that provides a quality meal with good management standards would see that Alamogordo has a market for a few more Lunch & Dinner place that serves alcohol such as Red Lobster, Olive Garden, and even a Out Back Steak House.

More grocery stores = more people cooking at home.

Heard a rumor that AppleBee's will expand there current building.
Arthur Dent

Rio Rancho, NM

#8 Aug 10, 2013
LoyalDem wrote:
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You need to spend some time contacting the marketing departments of the retail/restaurants that you mentioned in your post. You will find that the 50K number holds. Alamogordo can't even support a craft department at Walmart - not to mention a local, mom&pop type craft operation (Hobby Lobby being the example you mentioned). Red Lobster, Bath and Body have sophisticated marketing analysis departments that look at population, purchasing trends, local buying power, income, age...... we're not there yet. NO ONE in this town would or could keep a company from moving here IF THEY REALLY WANTED to. Clovis may have a similar population but they're drawing folks in from a 100 mile radius. We aren't. With El Paso and Las Cruces as our neighbors, the surrounding rural residents need only drive there to eat at Olive Garden or shop at Bath and Body. Really, do your homework. Contact the companies. Call a marketing analysis company that specializes in determining what demographics are necessary to support a retail operation.
Don't you think that La Luz, Tularosa, Ruidoso, Carrizozo, Cloudcroft, Holloman and all the other folks who live in the area in between would be considered in the Alamogordo area potential customer base? That figure would more than satisfy any 50,000 criteria don't you think?

Alamogordo has always been 15-20 years behind other places in the State including the great metropolis that is Clovis. I grew up in Alamogordo. There were more businesses and more things to do 40 years ago than there is now.

You have to ask why.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#9 Aug 10, 2013
Arthur Dent wrote:
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Don't you think that La Luz, Tularosa, Ruidoso, Carrizozo, Cloudcroft, Holloman and all the other folks who live in the area in between would be considered in the Alamogordo area potential customer base? That figure would more than satisfy any 50,000 criteria don't you think?
Alamogordo has always been 15-20 years behind other places in the State including the great metropolis that is Clovis. I grew up in Alamogordo. There were more businesses and more things to do 40 years ago than there is now.
You have to ask why.
One word...WALMART
And no the franchises will not count other small towns as part of their customer base to reach that 50,000. It's no secret. Google any franchise you wish and go look up their requirements.
Simpler formula

Boardman, OR

#10 Aug 10, 2013
Land Locked Sailor wrote:
Any restaurant that provides a quality meal with good management standards would see that Alamogordo has a market for a few more Lunch & Dinner place that serves alcohol such as Red Lobster, Olive Garden, and even a Out Back Steak House.
More grocery stores = more people cooking at home.
Heard a rumor that AppleBee's will expand there current building.
I am getting a kick out of all of the authoritative comments here on the business of business development. The problem is all are flawed because they are based on rumor.

Even the historically rock solid dining by age models are being reversed. If you want to know why read this https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/pr... then compare that with census data from here factoring in, of course, that the guaranteed incomes of the retirees combined with increased industry targeting of them might just have caused a temporary bubble in a historically stable model then you can see precisely why bean counter oriented restaurants don't come here. The most bean counter oriented restaurant company in the country is Darden which is and investment banker owned company and parent of Olive Garden and Red Lobster.

For most of the stores their credit card data surely makes it clear consumers will go to EP or LC to buy what they wish they could get locally, but will travel on click to buy.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#11 Aug 10, 2013
Simpler formula wrote:
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I am getting a kick out of all of the authoritative comments here on the business of business development. The problem is all are flawed because they are based on rumor.
Even the historically rock solid dining by age models are being reversed. If you want to know why read this https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/pr... then compare that with census data from here factoring in, of course, that the guaranteed incomes of the retirees combined with increased industry targeting of them might just have caused a temporary bubble in a historically stable model then you can see precisely why bean counter oriented restaurants don't come here. The most bean counter oriented restaurant company in the country is Darden which is and investment banker owned company and parent of Olive Garden and Red Lobster.
For most of the stores their credit card data surely makes it clear consumers will go to EP or LC to buy what they wish they could get locally, but will travel on click to buy.
Simple question to you?

Do you live here?
MommaZ

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Aug 10, 2013
I live here, and Barb is right. I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but I remember before WM. We had a Smiths, Albertsons, WGA and many small local shops for various non-food items. Typical WM, came in, undercut local businesses with low prices - then raised them as soon as the competition died.

I also was a member of the Cof50. SOOO funny folks talk of conspiracy. A lobbying group which supports the military and pays their own way. Nothing to do with restaurants or anything else.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#13 Aug 10, 2013
MommaZ wrote:
I live here, and Barb is right. I may sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but I remember before WM. We had a Smiths, Albertsons, WGA and many small local shops for various non-food items. Typical WM, came in, undercut local businesses with low prices - then raised them as soon as the competition died.
I also was a member of the Cof50. SOOO funny folks talk of conspiracy. A lobbying group which supports the military and pays their own way. Nothing to do with restaurants or anything else.
So did you protest Walmart coming here as a member of the Shifty 50, or support them coming?
Original Prankster

Alamogordo, NM

#14 Aug 11, 2013
Start organizing a union at Walmart if you want them to leave. I don't need or want them here. They just give the illusion that you have a job by working there.
Larry

Alamogordo, NM

#15 Aug 11, 2013
Land Locked Sailor wrote:
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So did you protest Walmart coming here as a member of the Shifty 50, or support them coming?
What else is new as we all know that you love and cherish Walmart!!!
Larry

Alamogordo, NM

#16 Aug 11, 2013
Original Prankster wrote:
Start organizing a union at Walmart if you want them to leave. I don't need or want them here. They just give the illusion that you have a job by working there.
Oh no please do not mention '''union's''' as local pot bellied gun-nut redneck Pervis Porterhouse a.k.a. land locked sailor will throw a conniption fit !!!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#17 Aug 11, 2013
Larry wrote:
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Oh no please do not mention '''union's''' as local pot bellied gun-nut redneck Pervis Porterhouse a.k.a. land locked sailor will throw a conniption fit !!!
Larry, still using your mommy's computer, still grounded i see.

Love to see the local walmart employees start the process of unionizing, then we get new cashiers...
Im the one who knocks

Alamogordo, NM

#18 Aug 11, 2013
Notice how the ole "Heisenberg" has stayed out of this horse race so far?

We all look to point a finger, who's to blame, whodunit? Truth be told, can any one person, or organization be blamed for Alamogordo's "destiny"?

The combination of "curve balls" are many, and as long as one's arm.

Sort of reminds me of the old "Humpty Dumpty" nursery rhymm.

As other's mentioned, and it is a fact, Wally World both gave a service, and also placed a tremendous hurt on this town. They need competition big time.

Wally World needs to be bitch slapped, and put back in its place, not only here, but all across Americs Their greed is he greatest of all, they've made Billions, if not Trillions of dollars off the American people.So much, that they have actually become a major enemy of America.

No bullets? Bullshit! If Walmart was for the American Public, there'd be a Sports Shop bigger than BAss Pro, and Cabelas combined. They are the largest seller of firearms in the nation, that's a fact.

But The Obamite Muslims have tld them, ever since The Batman Movie, if we cannot ban arms, let's ban Ammo to the public.

Treacherous Marxists, to take away your god given rights is all.

Albertsons, Target, those are the two most important businesses that need to come here ASAP.

Walmart needs to be slapped down, with competition, better paying jobs for all ameericans, especially here, in this dysfunctional, derelict dope user town.

We need more choices here for common shopping, and for stable employment.

Otherwise, what's the use, you raise your children here, but there's no future, or even a start for their lives to begin. There's no light at the end of the tunnel.

Little Heisy

Alamogordo, NM

#19 Aug 11, 2013
Im the one who knocks wrote:
Albertsons, Target, those are the two most important businesses that need to come here ASAP.
Wrong turd-blosson ... as we need a bowling alley and not another Wally World that some toothless inbred like you wants to bring in here.
Whatever

Alamogordo, NM

#20 Aug 11, 2013
Heisenberg

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