Democrats Push Hard on Fiscal Deal

Democrats Push Hard on Fiscal Deal

There are 407 comments on the Roll Call story from Nov 27, 2012, titled Democrats Push Hard on Fiscal Deal. In it, Roll Call reports that:

Durbin spoke about the future of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on Tuesday but said those discussions should not be part of the fiscal cliff plan.

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loveitorleaveit

Belleville, MI

#162 Nov 30, 2012
proudtobeamerica n wrote:
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Ah, the old payroll tax argument. I see because they pay some taxes that everyone else has to pay they don't have to pay federal taxes. I like your logic.
not everyone pays payroll taxes.
proudtobeamerica n

New York, NY

#163 Nov 30, 2012
loveitorleaveit wrote:
or what parent would teach their children not to share with the less fortunate? if you don't want to pay taxes, then don't. and try not to use any government services either. be prepared to protect your own money on the kitchen table. while people starve on your doorstep.<quoted text>
What if the kid doesn't want to share. Can your kid take his toys anyway? Is your kid still entitled?

So why do the people that pay no Federal taxes get to use Federal parks? So if I don't pay federal taxes you claim I should not use Federally funded projects or programs-that is what you are saying and I agree. Give yourself a yellow lightbulb and a gold star.
loveitorleaveit

Belleville, MI

#164 Nov 30, 2012
which part of this do you not understand?
"The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises"
proudtobeamerica n wrote:
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Nice try. What would the Founding Fathers include a rather detailed list of 17 specific enumerated powers that follow this clause if in fact the general Welfare language (as you erroneously believe)gives Congress unlimited power. Why grant any powers if in fact their power is unlimited? The Founders specifically limited the powers of Congress. They even went so far as to add a Bill of Rights to further limit the power of the Federal governmnt. If Congress could do everything-explain the 9th and 10th Amendments.
Superman can do anything. He can also do this, this and this. Make sense?
If your reading is correct, which I assure you it is not, Congress would have unlimited power so long as they descibe their action or legislation it as being in the interest of the general welfare of the United States. So let me get this straight-the Founding fathers gave Congress unlimited power?
proudtobeamerica n

New York, NY

#165 Nov 30, 2012
loveitorleaveit wrote:
which part of this do you not understand?
"The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises"<quoted text>
The part you left out. The section that says Congress has unlimited power and can do whatever it wants. Where is that section? Explain it to me again-you know the unlimited powers of Congress.
loveitorleaveit

Belleville, MI

#166 Nov 30, 2012
hey it's your imperfect analogy. the kid who won't share should hope there's other stingy rich kids or he's gonna be awful lonely. but being alone might not be so bad if everyone else is toyless right? What isn't federally funded? you'd have to stop using the street, no cops, no food checked by the FDA the list goes on and on grizzly adams. good luck with that.
proudtobeamerica n wrote:
<quoted text>
What if the kid doesn't want to share. Can your kid take his toys anyway? Is your kid still entitled?
So why do the people that pay no Federal taxes get to use Federal parks? So if I don't pay federal taxes you claim I should not use Federally funded projects or programs-that is what you are saying and I agree. Give yourself a yellow lightbulb and a gold star.
loveitorleaveit

Belleville, MI

#167 Nov 30, 2012
proudtobeamerica n wrote:
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The part you left out. The section that says Congress has unlimited power and can do whatever it wants. Where is that section? Explain it to me again-you know the unlimited powers of Congress.
I never claimed they were omnipotent. you made that part up.they collect taxes. where does it say what they can or can't do with them? And even though the US constitution is the law of the land there are libraries full of CFR's and case law that are LAW.
nobama

Los Angeles, CA

#168 Nov 30, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Elections have consequences; and the best part about us patriotic Americans coming out in record numbers to re-elect President Obama in another landslide is that we sent him back with a mandate to do whatever he wants… and that whole fiscal cliff deal will be however President Obama chooses to make it work the best for the ‘good guys’…
We are moving forward victorious as the retarded tea-baggers are stuck with frivolous stale non-issues like Fast and Furious and Benghazi, LOL.
He has no mandate, or he would have done something already.
I guess its ok with you that your president let Americans die and try to cover it up.
nobama

Los Angeles, CA

#169 Nov 30, 2012
Skuttlebutt wrote:
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mandate now that is funny...you are obviously to stupid to understand the word...but when you are know as giblet brain what can one expect...right there giblet brain
There is no such mandate.
I think Patti has his panties on to tight.
nobama

Los Angeles, CA

#170 Nov 30, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
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Maybe you didn’t get the memo… the American people came out in record numbers to re-elect President Obama in a landslide because we recognize his LEADERSHIP. You don’t get Osama bin Laden without the kind of leadership that he displayed.
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Maybe Clint Eastwood can tell you the downside to referencing to thing as being empty, LOL!
It was not by a land slide, and not by record numbers.
Its about time you wake up....
No one believes you.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#171 Nov 30, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Read the news, bozo. He didn't get a mandate, he barely won over half the popular votes and the republicans kept the house. Even many districts where nobama won, republican congressmen won. How many times do you have to be reminded he did NOT recieve a mandate, no matter how many times you claim!!
For the liberals, it is all the time as I believe their emotion gets in the way and they can not see the truth.
nobama

Los Angeles, CA

#172 Nov 30, 2012
Dane Thorsen wrote:
Democrats refuse to discuss budget cuts. America voted to give Obama and what pass for Democrats in Congress a mandate not to fix our financial problems and to do their part to leave NOTHING but bone crushing DEBT and more than enough devastating entitlement swag to rob all American children of their future hopes and dreams.
It is truly a GREAT day for the least among us.
Thank you..
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#173 Dec 1, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>It is the only chance our grandchildren will have after our children sold us and them down the river for a few minutes of free candy. Lucy Obama will pull the football on them anytime now.
Obama will pull the ball out from probably anybody except for his beholden and beloved unions. Otherwise he cares less about other Americans except as people for him to use and abuse, IMO.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#174 Dec 1, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all. You may need a humor infusion.
It looks by the way that you post that hatred is a main component of your psyche. Just sayin'

“My Commander-in-Chi ef!”

Since: Jun 07

Obama got Osama!

#175 Dec 1, 2012
nobama wrote:
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He has no mandate, or he would have done something already.
I guess its ok with you that your president let Americans die and try to cover it up.
nobama wrote:
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It was not by a land slide, and not by record numbers.
Its about time you wake up....
No one believes you.
It must really kill you to wake up every day knowing that we re-elected President Obama in a landslide (just like we did in 2008) with a mandate to do whatever he wants.

Funny how the same people who said Obama wouldn’t be re-elected, after saying that OBAMACARE would be struck down as unconstitutional, after saying that Obama wouldn’t get Osama, after saying that Health Care Reform wouldn’t get passed and signed into law, after saying that he wouldn’t get his Stimulus Package passed, after saying that he wouldn’t beat John McCain…

Are now saying that Obama didn’t win in a landslide and receive a mandate from the American people… your credibility is shot.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#176 Dec 1, 2012
nobama wrote:
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He has no mandate, or he would have done something already.
I guess its ok with you that your president let Americans die and try to cover it up.
Quit lying about Benghazi....If you have the stones, play the whole segment of, Meet the Press.....Especially the part whereby, Susan Rice say's that her remark's are both based on current intelligence and subject to the investigation results.....plus the FACT, that our investigators were'nt allowed by libyans to the scene for two weeks......
oblamer

Newport News, VA

#177 Dec 1, 2012
The majority of "hardworking, taxpaying patriotic Americans" don't support obama and most of his policie. Ehe would rather see the the middle class taxed into oblivion (then try and blame the other side) than nogetiate to a REAL solution. His administration scandle are sickening. He refuses to negotiate to benifit ALL americans. Hes only interested in the ones he can bribe with the promise of freebies. I havent figured if hes more like a warped dictator or a spoiled brat throwing temper tantrums and warnings. How embarrasing. But he, no problem hes going on a 3 week vacation.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#178 Dec 1, 2012
...The majority of american voters, just re-elected President Obama...GET OVER IT.....

Since: Oct 08

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#179 Dec 1, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me Bluemerang, what the hell has Susan Rice's wealth to do with "us progressives"?
the same as romney's!!! you libturds are such hippos

Since: Oct 08

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#180 Dec 1, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
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<quoted text>
It must really kill you to wake up every day knowing that we re-elected President Obama in a landslide (just like we did in 2008) with a mandate to do whatever he wants.
Funny how the same people who said Obama wouldn’t be re-elected, after saying that OBAMACARE would be struck down as unconstitutional, after saying that Obama wouldn’t get Osama, after saying that Health Care Reform wouldn’t get passed and signed into law, after saying that he wouldn’t get his Stimulus Package passed, after saying that he wouldn’t beat John McCain…
Are now saying that Obama didn’t win in a landslide and receive a mandate from the American people… your credibility is shot.
Lanslide ..now that is funny...you would know a land slide unless it was slid up your azz like your f*** buddy barney the pole smoker frank
oblamer

Newport News, VA

#181 Dec 1, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
...The majority of american voters, just re-elected President Obama...GET OVER IT.....
I said the majority of hard working americans small business owners and non goverment slaves did not...GET IT. No, you wouldn't !! Sad.

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