With Republicans onboard, can immigration overhaul pass?

Nov 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Kansas City Star

The ingredients of a new immigration bill are beginning to take shape, with many Republicans now rushing to join Democrats to develop a comprehensive plan.Republicans were stung by the recent elections, in which Latinos overwhelmingly supported President Barack Obama for another term.

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Unfortunaltely this people don't seem to realize that most illegals are not looking to a path. They do not want to pay for health care, taxes, or for many food. The undocumented in this country live under the radar and prefer it that way. They would like to bully America through illegal voting, but true citizenship comes with accountability, most Latin Americans simply enjoy the benefits of working here without any of the responsibilty. They send their money back to their homeland and plan to leave and go back at some point. The dreamers may want dual citizenship for their family's but honestly, it has been to easy to come, work, and when the heat is on them, leave and come back with brand new Identity's. This has been a generational life style preference. Just like DACA hasn't received many applicant's. There is a reason for that.
ronnie

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(SP) These people
Raymond McErlean

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This is interesting. America was built with and upon immigration. The early immigrants were hardworking and adventurous. A friend of mine in Cumbria has written a book about two brothers from Cumbria who basically founded Los Angelos. One of them actually employed the famous Kit Carson as an apprentice. Very few people object to immigrants who work hard, pay their way, don't commit crime and don't expect hand-outs. Unfortunately many who arrive in a new country then want to change it back to that which they left (which they were not happy with in the first place otherwise why leave?). We see this in England where Asian immigrants try to recreate mini Pakistans and where a paarticularly nasty example is the incidence of so-called 'honour killings' I am quite sure that Latinos who come to America don't want Mexican levels of murder and other crime. The danger always is that by forming large segregated communities they will re-create the environment which they escaped from. A high level of integration will help to avoid this. As an amusing footnote, the famous Kit Carson whom many little boys of a past generation regarded as a hero, is now persona non grata because he tended to shoot Indians or Native Americans as we must now call them. In fact my friend, referred to above, was visiting Tulse in New Mexico where Carson's old cabin has been preserved and the lady in the local tourist office would not give him directions because 'Carson was a bad man'
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The dogs bark but the caravan goes on. ;)
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Ronnie, are you kidding!?.... Get your facts straight. Most illegal immigrants want to come out of the shadows; have a drivers license, insurance etc. of course they are those who do want to stay in the shadows because they have something to hide. Guess what though, there are plenty of Americans who are in the same boat because they are dodging the long arm of the law.... As for the low number of DACA applications well, that's because the Dreamers didn't know if some rich white douche bag was going to take it off the table if elected..... What's your last name Ronnie?... I'm sure it ain't Redcorn.
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DvlLin wrote:
Ronnie, are you kidding!?.... Get your facts straight. Most illegal immigrants want to come out of the shadows; have a drivers license, insurance etc. of course they are those who do want to stay in the shadows because they have something to hide. Guess what though, there are plenty of Americans who are in the same boat because they are dodging the long arm of the law.... As for the low number of DACA applications well, that's because the Dreamers didn't know if some rich white douche bag was going to take it off the table if elected..... What's your last name Ronnie?... I'm sure it ain't Redcorn.
Thank you! Well said.

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call them fax the mail them and tell them you do not support illegal aliens.
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There are very few republican districts that will reelect a person who supports amnesty.
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Those is bull shit.. I pay taxes like al Americans... And if we send our money I out country's I because we don't have the opportunity of invest in this country..
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Raymond McErlean wrote:
This is interesting. America was built with and upon immigration. The early immigrants were hardworking and adventurous. A friend of mine in Cumbria has written a book about two brothers from Cumbria who basically founded Los Angelos. One of them actually employed the famous Kit Carson as an apprentice. Very few people object to immigrants who work hard, pay their way, don't commit crime and don't expect hand-outs. Unfortunately many who arrive in a new country then want to change it back to that which they left (which they were not happy with in the first place otherwise why leave?). We see this in England where Asian immigrants try to recreate mini Pakistans and where a paarticularly nasty example is the incidence of so-called 'honour killings' I am quite sure that Latinos who come to America don't want Mexican levels of murder and other crime. The danger always is that by forming large segregated communities they will re-create the environment which they escaped from. A high level of integration will help to avoid this. As an amusing footnote, the famous Kit Carson whom many little boys of a past generation regarded as a hero, is now persona non grata because he tended to shoot Indians or Native Americans as we must now call them. In fact my friend, referred to above, was visiting Tulse in New Mexico where Carson's old cabin has been preserved and the lady in the local tourist office would not give him directions because 'Carson was a bad man'
"The famous Kit Carson" isn't famous for "shooting" Native americans, what he is famous for is being a serial sadistic killer of women and children.
His MO was to watch from afar, with his band of killers, as the braves would leave their camp to hunt, then he and his band of savages would ride down into the camp to slaughter the old men, the women and the children, they would rape the women and little girls and cut the breasts off of them, and cut the penises off of the little boys.
Kit Carson was well known in the West, because the townspeople would say they could smell him coming for hours before he arrived in town. That is because after he cut off the breasts of the Indian women and the penises of the little Indian boys, he sewed the severed appendages to his hat and his coat as "trophies".

There is no such thing as "Latino", it a made up non-word.
Hispanics are descendents of Europeans who originated in Hispania.
America was built on legal immigration, not on the backs of illegal aliens.
Mexicans bring their level of crime with them, their barrios are the most crime riddled areas of this country, they have no respect for our laws, they obey no laws, they think they are better than everyone else, that they don't have to obey any laws, and rewarding them for breaking our laws only exaberates the problem and encourages them to break more laws.
Illegal aliens on the most part do not come to America to work, they come here for welfare, just like your illegal aliens in the UK.
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DvlLin wrote:
Ronnie, are you kidding!?.... Get your facts straight. Most illegal immigrants want to come out of the shadows; have a drivers license, insurance etc. of course they are those who do want to stay in the shadows because they have something to hide. Guess what though, there are plenty of Americans who are in the same boat because they are dodging the long arm of the law.... As for the low number of DACA applications well, that's because the Dreamers didn't know if some rich white douche bag was going to take it off the table if elected..... What's your last name Ronnie?... I'm sure it ain't Redcorn.
this is why amnesty won't pass when you feel like illegals have the same right as the citizens of this country you must really be out of your mind. Send them all back and end birthright citizenship and watch the problem fade away. To all my fellow Americans let's put pressure on congress so amnest won't pass. Oh wait never mind Obama only said what he said for votes and now that he won a second term he will do nothing except deport more. Hahahahaha
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Dee Dee Dee wrote:
There are very few republican districts that will reelect a person who supports amnesty.
A good scenario where we will see the Dems taking the White House Congress and the Senate all at once.
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Reality Check wrote:
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A good scenario where we will see the Dems taking the White House Congress and the Senate all at once.
A good scenario would be if neither party ever had total control again. That's how stupid laws like Obamacare pass.
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You would think that with our government heading toward a fiscal cliff, we would have more important things to talk about than taking money from our working poor. Did I actually see that Rand Paul was involved in this stupidity?
ronnie

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Just the Facts wrote:
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"The famous Kit Carson" isn't famous for "shooting" Native americans, what he is famous for is being a serial sadistic killer of women and children.
His MO was to watch from afar, with his band of killers, as the braves would leave their camp to hunt, then he and his band of savages would ride down into the camp to slaughter the old men, the women and the children, they would rape the women and little girls and cut the breasts off of them, and cut the penises off of the little boys.
Kit Carson was well known in the West, because the townspeople would say they could smell him coming for hours before he arrived in town. That is because after he cut off the breasts of the Indian women and the penises of the little Indian boys, he sewed the severed appendages to his hat and his coat as "trophies".
There is no such thing as "Latino", it a made up non-word.
Hispanics are descendents of Europeans who originated in Hispania.
America was built on legal immigration, not on the backs of illegal aliens.
Mexicans bring their level of crime with them, their barrios are the most crime riddled areas of this country, they have no respect for our laws, they obey no laws, they think they are better than everyone else, that they don't have to obey any laws, and rewarding them for breaking our laws only exaberates the problem and encourages them to break more laws.
Illegal aliens on the most part do not come to America to work, they come here for welfare, just like your illegal aliens in the UK.
I think a lot of Mexican's have read the biography of Kit Carson, and picked up some of his tricks, because you just described to us what the Cartels are doing to poor Mexicans and there family's on a regular basis. But I agree with the latter half of your post.
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We need immigration reform. How can u people talk about people as a particular race and say their criminal's? Are you trying to say that white ppl don't murder, rape, use or deal drugs, rob house or business, lie and use the system? Well if we were only that perfect. If an immigrant has a criminal record they won't have the oppertunity to become legal. So stop saying their such bad people. You don't know them, you were raised with the mentally that anyone who's not white is bad. You people sound like Hitler, to bad you don't face a leader like Hitler then maybe you'd want someone to help you. I know many immigrants who work and pay their taxes and speak English and never harmed anyone. All they want is to regiester and raise their families. Many American's are married and have children with immigrants, so don't try to take their rights away as citizens.
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nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>this is why amnesty won't pass when you feel like illegals have the same right as the citizens of this country you must really be out of your mind. Send them all back and end birthright citizenship and watch the problem fade away. To all my fellow Americans let's put pressure on congress so amnest won't pass. Oh wait never mind Obama only said what he said for votes and now that he won a second term he will do nothing except deport more. Hahahahaha
Yeah the reason you said that must be couse you see illegal immigrants having greats cars greats jobs great life exact as those Americans who's not a loosers like you
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All I know is that the hispanic will fk the GOP again, and again, and again until the white dork learns that hate is not a policy nor a strategy. The white only policies of the 1790's and 1800's is over! S-ck on stupid anglo!
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Va te suce le pede wrote:
All I know is that the hispanic will fk the GOP again, and again, and again until the white dork learns that hate is not a policy nor a strategy. The white only policies of the 1790's and 1800's is over! S-ck on stupid anglo!
Wait till more Whites wake up and find out that you Tan Klan members are a bunch of racists.
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freebird wrote:
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Wait till more Whites wake up and find out that you Tan Klan members are a bunch of racists.
Learn to coexist and taste the medicine you gave minorities when you are a minority!

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