More Akin abortion remarks stir criti...

More Akin abortion remarks stir criticism

There are 38 comments on the KMBC-TV story from Oct 3, 2012, titled More Akin abortion remarks stir criticism. In it, KMBC-TV reports that:

Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin once equated abortion providers to terrorists and suggested that it was "common practice" for them to be "giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant." The Missouri congressman made the remarks in a 2008 speech on the House floor.

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Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#21 Oct 7, 2012
Mitt Romney Funded Surrogate Contract for His Son that Allows for Abortion

By: Sarah JonesSeptember 21st, 2012see more posts by Sarah Jones

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Mitt Romney said he was for the Personhood Amendment, which would make even some forms of birth control illegal. In any case, it doesn’t allow for abortion even in the case of the life of the mother or rape. Remember legitimate rape? That’s the thinking behind the Personhood Amendment. According to TMZ, this Personhood Amendment candidate paid money toward his son’s surrogacy contract expenses — a contract that allows both parties to abort the fetus under non-life threatening conditions.

The contract includes several portions allowing for abortion via both the surrogate’s and the intended parent decision. Now, this same clause was not included in the previous contract they had with the same surrogate, which makes it stand out more, as lawyers usually hash out all of these details with the attention you’d expect when you’re dealing with such an emotional issue.

The contract specifically provides the choice of abortion if Romney’s son and daughter-in-law want it. TMZ reports on the Gestational Carrier Agreement dated July 28, 2011:

“If in the opinion of the treating physician or her independent obstetrician there is potential physical harm to the surrogate, the decision to abort or not abort is to be made by the surrogate.”

“In the event the child is determined to be physiologically, genetically or chromosomally abnormal, the decision to abort or not to abort is to be made by the intended parents. In such a case the surrogate agrees to abort, or not to abort, in accordance with the intended parents’ decision.”

“Any decision to abort because of potential harm to the child, or to reduce the number of fetuses, is to be made by the intended parents.”

So yeah. This contract has nothing to do with danger to the mother and everything to do with “choice”. TMZ can’t say if Romney read the contract before he funded part of the expense. Fair enough. But if his own son and daughter in law feel they are entitled to choice, doesn’t it follow that perhaps Mitt Romney might want to extend that privilege to the rest of the country?

It may have been an oversight. Their attorney Bill Handel says they just “forgot” to remove the clauses pertaining to abortion. That’s possible, though certainly doesn’t reflect well on him if it true. But it also reveals the dirty secret behind anti-choicers. People with money always have choice. So when politicians discuss removing choice, they are only really removing choice from women without means.

Romney has promised to defund Planned Parenthood and deny women the right to abortions even in the case of rape. Of course, Romney has changed his position on this so many times it’s impossible to say where he stands today. It’s awkward that a man running for President would fund such an agreement while he’s out telling voters that he supports the Personhood Amendment.

Readers will say this is “personal” and I shouldn’t have reported it. To them, I say, exactly. It’s personal. It’s a personal family matter. I could not agree more.

That is the exact position of the pro-choice movement. Pro choicers believe that women and their families are best suited to make these decisions in private, with their doctors.

We would all really appreciate not having to report on the personal lives of Republicans who are inserting themselves into our personal lives with legislation, as they know they can open any door they need to due to means.

It is personal. And it’s not the place of Republicans to get into the personal lives of American families, just as they don’t want us in their personal lives. IT IS PERSONAL, and no one gets to be held to a different standard, especially when they are denying other women the same rights they take for themselves.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#22 Oct 7, 2012
Here are the public flip flops.



Here he is talking about his position as a Mormon, off the record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Outta Luck

Ames, IA

#23 Oct 7, 2012
Akin is a true follower of the Repiblican mantra of
"smaller government"
"Less Federal intrusion in American lives"
"family values"

He wants government sooooooo small it will fit inside your wife's Vagina.
If he has his twisted way, Married people having sex will be required to pay a toll upon entry. If pregnancy does not occur, the owner of the penis used for the sex act will have to be interviewed and could be charged a fee for early withdrawal.
But if an oil company wants to tear down your house to put a well on your property, Akin heels will come out to evict you personally.
Truly a bucket of shit.
I sincerely hope the next time I hear Akins nam it is from the news report on his successful suicide.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#24 Oct 7, 2012
Any idea how many dozens (100's?) of fetuses are destroyed or frozen then discarded when you choose to harvest babies in vitro with or without surrogate mothers. Those are PLANNED ABORTIONS. You still think Bishop Rmoney is PRO-LIFE???? He funded the abortion clause from his sons, one who just had a son this way in the last year!!!!

Sorry, but let's stop the nonsensical claim that Bishop Rmoney isn't PRO-CHOICE.
God Is The Only Choice

Akron, OH

#25 Oct 7, 2012
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Vote for whomever you want, but don't think for a second that Bishop Rmoney is "pro-life".
Gee, thanks for allowing me to vote my way. Obama is not only pro choice, but pro late term abortion, and letting babies born alive after an abortion be left to die with no medical assistance. That's monsterous. Be well!

Romney/Ryan 2012 Pro Life <3
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#26 Oct 7, 2012
God Is The Only Choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, thanks for allowing me to vote my way. Obama is not only pro choice, but pro late term abortion, and letting babies born alive after an abortion be left to die with no medical assistance. That's monsterous. Be well!
Romney/Ryan 2012 Pro Life <3
So rich people funding premeditated abortions (100's) with contracts, maybe merely to select male children or blue-eyed babies is okay, just not late term abortions where a child maybe born without a head. Voting for a liar is okay with you.

You be well too. It's your conscience.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#27 Oct 7, 2012
God Is The Only Choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, thanks for allowing me to vote my way. Obama is not only pro choice, but pro late term abortion, and letting babies born alive after an abortion be left to die with no medical assistance. That's monsterous. Be well!
Romney/Ryan 2012 Pro Life <3
Yeah, vote however you want, but don't keep spreading the "Pro Life" lie.

Rmoney is NOT Pro Life and Ryan famously said on the Floor you have to compromise your principles in order to preserve your principles when he BEGGED the Congress to pass the TARP.

It's funny how you are so confident that you will get what you want with your vote when we are not allowed to know the details and all we see are flip flops, for decades.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#28 Oct 7, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Your petty personal attacks on Akin are due to his opposition to abortion, nothing else. Therefore, the issue IS abortion.
Akin is far from having a diseased brain. He's a very intelligent man who has a superb conservative voting record. He's shown himself to be a man of character, standing on his principles in the face of severe condmenation and even abandonment by his own party. The man has guts.
Contrast that with McCaskill who has no spine at all and has consistently voted to support the far left ideology of the marxist wackos in DC.
There really is no debate in this election. McCaskill is an utter failure who holds office only to represent the DNC, not the people of Missouri. Because of her, we have massive debt and extreme government intrusion into our lives.
Only retarded liberal idiots will vote for McCaskill. Everyone else will vote for Akin.
You are proof that you don't have to be a liberal to be an idiot. GOD, YOU ARE DUMB!
God Is The Only Choice

Akron, OH

#29 Oct 7, 2012
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, vote however you want, but don't keep spreading the "Pro Life" lie.
Rmoney is NOT Pro Life and Ryan famously said on the Floor you have to compromise your principles in order to preserve your principles when he BEGGED the Congress to pass the TARP.
It's funny how you are so confident that you will get what you want with your vote when we are not allowed to know the details and all we see are flip flops, for decades.
Liberal propaganda, yawn.

Romney/Ryan 2012 Pro Life <3
guest

United States

#30 Oct 7, 2012
Bitner wrote:
It may be a real picture, it may be photoshop. Most abortions are done before that point in gestation anyway.
It's a very real picture, not photoshopped. And it depicts the gruesome aftermath of the barbaric murder of a helpless human being only a handful of weeks old. This is what abortion looks like. This is what is being done 1.5 million times every year in our country.

If you support doing that to another human being, you are cold, calloused, and very, very sick in the head.
"Human being" is a religious/philosophical concept
Bullshit. It is a scientific, biological term. You're lying to yourself and to others claiming the baby in that picture is not a human being.

That's so typical of the pro abortion crowd. You guys never admit the truth, and always lie about the reality of what abortion is.
Murder is illegal killing.
Murder is the intentional taking of innocent human life. Pick up a law book Einstein.
The right to privacy, which covers the right to medical self-determination, INCLUDES the right to make one's own choice regarding one's own pregnancy. I'm sorry, but that's a fact.
But we're not talking about a woman's choice to engage in activity that might result in pregnancy, we're talking about a woman choosing to murder her own flesh and blood.

Privacy does not include the right to commit murder in private.

You can dance around the issue all you want, but facts are facts. Abortion is murder. Those who support abortion are sick in the head.
guest

United States

#31 Oct 7, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
THIS guy Akin is a nutcase, as far as I'M concerned anyway.
He's only a nutcase in your eyes because you're a sick in head wacko who supports slaughtering helpless babies.
It isn't just that Akin opposes abortion.
Bullshit. His opposition to abortion is the ONLY reason you sickos are calling him a nutcase.
He's made so many idiotic public statements...
Bullshit. Name 3 such statements or shut your lying pie hole.
Only backward-thinking MORONS like you will vote for Akin.
I'm neither backward thinking nor a moron. In fact, I'm highly intelligent and very educated. It's only you dummies who support the failed marxism of the left. You're too stupid to know the policies of the far left are proven failures, and you're too damn lazy to educate yourself on the facts.

And it's only you sickos who support the gruesome slaughter of the unborn.
Everyone who is intelligent and wants an intelligent candidate for their Senator will vote for McCaskill.
Says the retarded liberal idiot who is too stupid to know the truth.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#32 Oct 7, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>

"It's a very real picture, not photoshopped."

So you say. The fact is that neither of us knows for sure.

"And it depicts the gruesome aftermath of the barbaric murder of a helpless human being only a handful of weeks old."

That is completely untrue. It shows no such thing.

"This is what abortion looks like. This is what is being done 1.5 million times every year in our country."

No, it is not. Most abortions occur way before it looks anything like that.

"If you support doing that to another human being, you are cold, calloused, and very, very sick in the head."

Nonsense. That's just your opinion, not a fact.

"Bullshit. It is a scientific, biological term. You're lying to yourself and to others claiming the baby in that picture is not a human being."

No, I am not. HUMAN is a scientific term. HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS is a scientific term. Human being is a religious/philosophical term, which makes it a matter of opinion, not fact.

"That's so typical of the pro abortion crowd."

There is no such group. We are pro-choice.

"You guys never admit the truth, and always lie about the reality of what abortion is."

I always admit the truth about what abortion is. An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, whether spontaneous or induced, by the removal of the products of conception. That IS what abortion is. How typical of you fetus worshippers to want to be melodramatic about it.

"Murder is the intentional taking of innocent human life. Pick up a law book Einstein."

You are wrong. No law book defines it as such.

"But we're not talking about a woman's choice to engage in activity that might result in pregnancy, we're talking about a woman choosing to murder her own flesh and blood."

We're talking about neither. Her right to privacy INCLUDES not remaining pregnant, if that is what she chooses. I said nothing about having sex, and abortion is not murder.

"Privacy does not include the right to commit murder in private."

I never said it did. I'm not talking about murder.

"You can dance around the issue all you want, but facts are facts."

Yes, but you have yet to post any facts.

"Abortion is murder."

Absolutely it is not murder. You are wrong.

"Those who support abortion are sick in the head."

I don't support abortion. I support a woman's RIGHT to make her own choice regarding her own uterus and pregnancy, no matter which choice she eventually makes, and no matter how I may personally feel about either choice.
Outta Luck

Ames, IA

#33 Oct 7, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a very real picture, not photoshopped. And it depicts the gruesome aftermath of the barbaric murder of a helpless human being only a handful of weeks old. This is what abortion looks like. This is what is being done 1.5 million times every year in our country.
If you support doing that to another human being, you are cold, calloused, and very, very sick in the head.
<quoted text>
Bullshit. It is a scientific, biological term. You're lying to yourself and to others claiming the baby in that picture is not a human being.
That's so typical of the pro abortion crowd. You guys never admit the truth, and always lie about the reality of what abortion is.
<quoted text>
Murder is the intentional taking of innocent human life. Pick up a law book Einstein.
<quoted text>
But we're not talking about a woman's choice to engage in activity that might result in pregnancy, we're talking about a woman choosing to murder her own flesh and blood.
Privacy does not include the right to commit murder in private.
You can dance around the issue all you want, but facts are facts. Abortion is murder. Those who support abortion are sick in the head.
Dude,
you are still WAY too pissed off about what other people do
LEGALLY here in America.
For your own benefit, please stop gawking at grotesque sensationalized photos of stuff that really does not happen.
If abortion is really such a thorn in your paw, do something positive about it.
Criminalizing medical abortions will do precious nothing to change the behaviors of Americans, use current drug laws as an example of this. The real benefit of safe abortions is preventing women from attempting to do it themselves, and putting them selves at risk.
If you want the precious little babies to not be killed, then take your anger and put it where it belongs. ON MEN WHO IRRESPONSIBLY EMPREGNATE WOMEN.
Young, unattached,sexually active men should be educated on the benefits of a Vasectomy. Men who are uninterested in being a father should shoot blanks, proudly I might add, and when their wild oats have been sowed it can be reversed.
I say this because laser vasectomy is completely reversable, and the vasectomy and the reversl are much much much less invasive then any surgery to a woman's reproductive system. Also men who go this route, could also save their swimmers in a sperm bank just in case the reversal is not possible for some reason.

I fail to see why this is just a women's issue.
Women seeking abortion whaatever the reason are murdering irresponsible sluts, but the sperm donor is NEVER help up to a similar standard. THAT IS INFURIATINGLY STUPID.
Truly the only way to make abortion a thing of the past is to hold men equally responsible for unwanted pregnancy.

And just to stay on topic, Akin should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town, since ideas come from a time when that was common place.
guest

United States

#34 Oct 8, 2012
Typical mindless responses from pro abortion idiots in deep denial of the truth. You refuse to believe even what your eyes clearly see. Like other abortion proponents, you'll deny any and all realities in order to justify your mental sickness.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#35 Oct 8, 2012
guest wrote:
Typical mindless responses from pro abortion idiots in deep denial of the truth. You refuse to believe even what your eyes clearly see. Like other abortion proponents, you'll deny any and all realities in order to justify your mental sickness.
I have denied no reality. I HAVE denied that you have posted any reality. There is a difference.
Ocean56

AOL

#36 Oct 8, 2012
guest wrote:
Typical mindless responses from pro abortion idiots in deep denial of the truth. You refuse to believe even what your eyes clearly see. Like other abortion proponents, you'll deny any and all realities in order to justify your mental sickness.
Awwwwww, you're just pissed that I and others don't buy your idiocy that "Akin is a decent man" or something equally insane.

I couldn't care less how many lame insults you toss my way. I'll VOTE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA on November 6th.

“lightly burnt,but still smokin”

Since: Dec 06

in the corner of your mind,

#37 Oct 9, 2012
"God Is The Only Choice"

Romney/Ryan 2012 Pro Life <3

those idiots aren't pro life,thats the line they want you to swallow,and it seems you have
Missouri anti-Akin

Jefferson City, MO

#38 Oct 10, 2012
Evad wrote:
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Maybee you're not familiar with how liberal Liberty, MO isn't, maybee you don't nderstand our legacy of being one the cornerstone of the Bible Belt, but personally I think you're just some Mormon the Boggs act being repealed because out here we gladly welcome you to come spend some time in our historical Mormon prision and learn what Christianity really is. Or did the devil fool you into thinking that adding books to the bible and believing in false profits was ok little boy.
What books are those? Prophet is not spelled profit!!!! Excuse this idiot-not all Missourians are ignorant hicks from Liberty!!!

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