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Bill Clinton, Politics' Comeback Kid, Rides Again At The DNC

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It may be in former President Bill Clinton's interest to help keep the Democratic party together for the next convention.

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downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#553 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
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certifiable DogmaAddict™ with some of the most bizarre beliefs.
YES - STUPID 'runs in the family' <snort>
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God".-- George Herbert Walker Bush
Know GOD?
"Know" nothing.
No GOD?
No Problem.
"Bad examples to youth are more rare in America, which must be comfortable consideration to parents. To this may be truly added, that serious religion, under its various denominations, is not only tolerated, but respected and practiced. Atheism is unknown there; infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a great age in that country, without having their piety shocked by meeting with either an atheist or an infidel."

Benjamin Franklin, Two Tracts: Information to Those Who Would Remove to America and Remarks Concerning the Savages of North America (London: John Stockdale, 1784), p.24.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#554 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
L
In 1802, he returned to America where he died on June 8, 1809. Only six people attended his funeral as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity
Yet he still thought Jesus Christ was a great moral leader and of course he believed in God.

Paine wrote that "the people of France were running headlong into atheism and I had the work translated into their own language, to stop them in that career, and fix them to the first article ... of every man's creed who has any creed at all – I believe in God" (emphasis Paine's).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reaso...

" The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal."

Thomas Paine, "The Existence of God 1810"

Political as well as spiritual freedom is the gift of God through Christ.”
Thomas Paine
. Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Thoughts on Defensive War,” p. 82.


“[I said, or truly, Barclay said it first,‘it is the] light of Christ which shineth in the conscience, and which neither can nor will flatter thee, nor suffer thee to be at ease in thy sins.’”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Epistle to Quakers,” p. 187.

"In the barbarous ages of the world, men in general had no liberty. The strong governed the weak at will; ‘till the coming of Christ there was no such thing as political freedom in any known part of the earth.”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Thoughts on Defensive War,” p.81- 82.

‘Suspicion is the companion of mean souls, and the bane of all good society. For myself, I fully and conscientiously believe, that it is the will of the Almighty, that there should be diversity of religious opinions among us: It affords a larger field for our Christian kindness. Were we all of one way of thinking, our religious dispositions would want matter for probation; and on this liberal principle, I look on the various denominations among us, to be like children of the same family, differing only, in what is called, their Christian names.’”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925, Common Sense,” p. 163.


“But where says some is the King of America? I’ll tell you Friend, he reigns above…”
Thomas Paine

"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life."
Thomas Paine, Age of Reason

That was easy.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#555 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
You are most welcome.
Paine is also considered a atheist but I think he, like most of founding fathers, were Deists.
Clinton was on Jon Stewart yesterday, good interview.
Mitt is done in by his own slippery silver tongue.
Not only is this tragic for the GOP senators up for re-elect, which are jumping the Romney ship, refusing to answer questions about Willard.
Too funny. The world laughs.
And... way back during the serious clown circus (Cain,Perry,Bachmann,Santorum, Newt,romney)
During his final losing bid for the nomination Santorum stated this!
TRUE as it has turned out for Der Mittenmeister!
FRANKSVILLE, Wis.- In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as "the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." Santorum later, however, bristled at the notion that he was referring to anything other than Romney's position on health care.
Vegas odds for RobMe victory are so slim, it would not be a surprise the GOP also lost the senate in the Nov Derby.
If most of the Founding Fathers were mostly deists why was Paine so severely ostracized by those same "mostly deists"?

He was condemned by his peers for his attack on Christianity.

We have written testimony , with references, of condemnation by Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Benjamin Rush, Charles Carroll, John Witherspoon, John Quincy Adams, Elias Boudinot, Patrick Henry, William Paterson, Zephaniah Swift, and John Jay. Undoubtably there were others.

A few examples-

John Witherspoon, signer of the Declaration and mentor to many other Founders, said that Paine was "ignorant of human nature as well as an enemy to the Christian faith."

Charles Carroll, a signer of the Declaration, described Paine's work as "blasphemous writings against the Christian religion."

John Jay, co-author of the Federalist Papers and the original Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, was comforted by the fact that Christianity would prevail despite Paine's attack:

"I have long been of the opinion that the evidence of the truth of Christianity requires only to be carefully examined to produce conviction in candid minds, and I think they who undertake that task will derived advantages.... As to The Age of Reason, it never appeared to me to have been written from a disinterested love of truth or of mankind."

W]hen I heard you had turned your mind to a defence of infidelity, I felt myself much astonished and more grieved that you had attempted a measure so injurious to the feelings and so repugnant to the true interest of so great a part of the citizens of the United States. The people of New England, if you will allow me to use a Scripture phrase, are fast returning to their first love. Will you excite among them the spirit of angry controversy at a time when they are hastening to amity and peace? I am told that some of our newspapers have announced your intention to publish an additional pamphlet upon the principles of your Age of Reason. Do you think your pen, or the pen of any other man, can unchristianize the mass of our citizens, or have you hopes of converting a few of them to assist you in so bad a cause?
Samuel Adams

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#556 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
You are most welcome.
Paine is also considered a atheist but I think he, like most of founding fathers, were Deists.
Clinton was on Jon Stewart yesterday, good interview.
Mitt is done in by his own slippery silver tongue.
Not only is this tragic for the GOP senators up for re-elect, which are jumping the Romney ship, refusing to answer questions about Willard.
Too funny. The world laughs.
And... way back during the serious clown circus (Cain,Perry,Bachmann,Santorum, Newt,romney)
During his final losing bid for the nomination Santorum stated this!
TRUE as it has turned out for Der Mittenmeister!
FRANKSVILLE, Wis.- In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as "the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." Santorum later, however, bristled at the notion that he was referring to anything other than Romney's position on health care.
Vegas odds for RobMe victory are so slim, it would not be a surprise the GOP also lost the senate in the Nov Derby.
Interesting stuff.
CunningLinguist

Kissimmee, FL

#557 Sep 21, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he still thought Jesus Christ was a great moral leader and of course he believed in God.
Paine wrote that "the people of France were running headlong into atheism and I had the work translated into their own language, to stop them in that career, and fix them to the first article ... of every man's creed who has any creed at all – I believe in God" (emphasis Paine's).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reaso...
" The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal."
Thomas Paine, "The Existence of God 1810"
Political as well as spiritual freedom is the gift of God through Christ.”
Thomas Paine
. Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Thoughts on Defensive War,” p. 82.
“[I said, or truly, Barclay said it first,‘it is the] light of Christ which shineth in the conscience, and which neither can nor will flatter thee, nor suffer thee to be at ease in thy sins.’”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Epistle to Quakers,” p. 187.
"In the barbarous ages of the world, men in general had no liberty. The strong governed the weak at will; ‘till the coming of Christ there was no such thing as political freedom in any known part of the earth.”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925,“Thoughts on Defensive War,” p.81- 82.
‘Suspicion is the companion of mean souls, and the bane of all good society. For myself, I fully and conscientiously believe, that it is the will of the Almighty, that there should be diversity of religious opinions among us: It affords a larger field for our Christian kindness. Were we all of one way of thinking, our religious dispositions would want matter for probation; and on this liberal principle, I look on the various denominations among us, to be like children of the same family, differing only, in what is called, their Christian names.’”
Thomas Paine
Van der Weyde, William M. editor.“The Life and Works of Thomas Paine,” Patriots Edition, Volume II, New Rochelle, New York, Thomas Paine National Historical Association, 1925, Common Sense,” p. 163.
“But where says some is the King of America? I’ll tell you Friend, he reigns above…”
Thomas Paine
"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life."
Thomas Paine, Age of Reason
That was easy.
And your point would be? You have also read Paine? Bravo!
Then you are aware he was a deist.

Christianity is an Egyptian Myth

downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#558 Sep 21, 2012
Obamacare

Obamacare

-Raise percentage for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI ($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995 -


If you are a family of four with an adjusted gross income of 50,000 with 10,000 in medical bills you could claim as a medical deduction anything over 7.5% of AGI or $6250. In a 15% tax bracket that is a tax savings of 932 dollars.
Under Obamacare at 10% of AGI you could only claim $5000 in medical deductions and you would get $750 back so Obamacare just cost a middle class family
in the 15% tax bracket an extra $282 in taxes.

There are many traps in Obamacare besides that little gem.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#559 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
And your point would be? You have also read Paine? Bravo!
Then you are aware he was a deist.
Christianity is an Egyptian Myth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ojzy4Pmcyy0XX
Yes he was a deist, probably the only one of any importance at the creation of the nation.

Remember atheism is a cave man myth. I mean every cave man was born an atheist but once he got his eyes opened he abandoned atheism and became a theist. Makes sense even a cave man didn't believe he was created from a bunch of chemicals. LOL
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#560 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
And your point would be? You have also read Paine? Bravo!
Then you are aware he was a deist.
Christianity is an Egyptian Myth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ojzy4Pmcyy0XX
As to your first question, my point was to show that you were full of crap,which was easily accomplished. The fact remains,most of the Founding Fathers were orthodox Christians .
CunningLinguist

Kissimmee, FL

#561 Sep 21, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
Obamacare
Obamacare
-Raise percentage for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI ($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995 -
If you are a family of four with an adjusted gross income of 50,000 with 10,000 in medical bills you could claim as a medical deduction anything over 7.5% of AGI or $6250. In a 15% tax bracket that is a tax savings of 932 dollars.
Under Obamacare at 10% of AGI you could only claim $5000 in medical deductions and you would get $750 back so Obamacare just cost a middle class family
in the 15% tax bracket an extra $282 in taxes.
There are many traps in Obamacare besides that little gem.
Get used to it, Mitt is DOA and I suspect most of the GOP senators running for re-elect.

The 47% are not pleased with "let em' eat cake" attitude of the GOP.

Mitt opened Pandora's Box and the GOP vermin are running to get away from 'all things'- Mitt 'Train Wreck' RobMe.

And the part I enjoy the best? <smirk>

Mr. Sweater vest Ricky Santorum (certifiable) almost got the RNC slot and after a narrow loss to RobMe.

He allowed the following advice:

Santorum: Romney "worst Republican" to face Obama

FRANKSVILLE, Wis.- In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as "the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." Santorum later, however, bristled at the notion that he was referring to anything other than Romney's position on health care.

OUCH! The nut job was actually correct about something!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-574042...

New Headline:
Santorum predicted Mitt aka Thurston Howell III RobMe would be disaster!

MY god you people are beyond stupid, and unfortunately these isn't any cure. <sigh>
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#562 Sep 21, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Get used to it, Mitt is DOA and I suspect most of the GOP senators running for re-elect.
The 47% are not pleased with "let em' eat cake" attitude of the GOP.
Mitt opened Pandora's Box and the GOP vermin are running to get away from 'all things'- Mitt 'Train Wreck' RobMe.
And the part I enjoy the best? <smirk>
Mr. Sweater vest Ricky Santorum (certifiable) almost got the RNC slot and after a narrow loss to RobMe.
He allowed the following advice:
Santorum: Romney "worst Republican" to face Obama
FRANKSVILLE, Wis.- In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as "the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." Santorum later, however, bristled at the notion that he was referring to anything other than Romney's position on health care.
OUCH! The nut job was actually correct about something!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-574042...
New Headline:
Santorum predicted Mitt aka Thurston Howell III RobMe would be disaster!
MY god you people are beyond stupid, and unfortunately these isn't any cure. <sigh>


Didn't Obama say he wasn't raising taxes on the middle class and Obamacare was ruled a tax so that would be just another lie by Obama?

Talking about beyond stupid ,if abortion was a requirement for stupidity,the family tree of most left wingers would be stumps.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#563 Sep 21, 2012
Explaining why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential nomination in Kentucky, Obama botched basic geography:

"Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
The lame leading the blind.
CunningLinguist

Kissimmee, FL

#564 Sep 21, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't Obama say he wasn't raising taxes on the middle class and Obamacare was ruled a tax so that would be just another lie by Obama?
Talking about beyond stupid ,if abortion was a requirement for stupidity,the family tree of most left wingers would be stumps.
Honestly, I looked at the RNC offerings and I would not trust any of them to watch my dog.

Do I think Obama is a good president?
Not necessarily, had he actually ended both illegal wars, ended the useless Drug War, the economy would be much more robust.

Still, I prefer him to what the RNC has offered.

Frankly, the sorry state of the USA economy will not be corrected in 4 years or 8 years. The damage is too severe. It will take a generation to correct. It is irrelevant which person is elected.

We saw the real Mitt among his fat cat friends. Sickening.

I DO NOT vote.
It is pointless. The USA was sold to wall street long ago beginning with Reagan. I simply accept whatever is dished out.

If each of these professional puppets of the rich, bought and paid for, had to wear a NASCAR suit advertising their OWNERS, there would be nothing but LOGO's!
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#565 Sep 22, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't Obama say he wasn't raising taxes on the middle class and Obamacare was ruled a tax so that would be just another lie by Obama?
Talking about beyond stupid ,if abortion was a requirement for stupidity,the family tree of most left wingers would be stumps.
Guessed you missed the Senior Citizens booing Ryan as he was making a pitch to repeal the ACA, Seniors are supposed to be a key demographic for Romney/Ryan, well at least they were before Friday.

Repeal health care, and making the changes to Medicare are working real well for the GOP...... that is a debate they wanted as they said, right?
CatholicPatriot

Manteca, CA

#566 Sep 23, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I never said there were no Catholic humanitarians. Many years ago I did some work with Catholic Charities, and was moved by their devotion to the poor and needy. My sons attended Catholic middle and high schools. These schools' families and leaders nevertheless tended to be liberal, which is the attitude I expect from a true Christian.
My main argument was about your numbers, and the fact that you coupled athesism with secularism, which suggested a certain bias on your part. Further, I am strongly opposed to theocratic forms of government, because their leaderships are usually madmen who stifle the freedoms of their people, often violently.
With regard to who are the most violent, there is plenty of blame to go around. No label makes you a moral or immoral person. That is determined by your humanity.
The church is neither liberal, moderate, nor conservative; it is catholic so you find all three groups within the church.

Even within religious orders within the church there are liberals, moderates, and conservatives even if the religious order has a tendency to one of the three.

For example, the Franciscans have always had a tendency toward the liberal position, while the Dominicans have always had a tendency toward the moderate position.

All three, liberals, moderates, and conservatives have made invaluable contributions to the church over the centuries.

In Catholic teaching though, there is a difference between being a liberal Catholic and a catholic Liberal.

Liberal Catholic is someone who is in the church; catholic Liberal is someone who is outside the church.
CatholicPatriot

Manteca, CA

#567 Sep 23, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>And all the guards there gave up their faith the minute hitler came into power? why is your faith so weak and easy to discard to save one's own skin?
Hitler's super race came from the atheist Nietzsche's "superman".

The granddaughter of Nietzsche aligned the Nietzsche Society, an atheist group, with Hitler's Nazi party.

However, we do know that the "Reichbishop" was a Lutheran Bishop.

Likewise, we know that Hitler's support in the 1932 election was 90 percent protestant and only 10 percent Catholic. The most liberal Catholics supported Hitler and were willing to incur automatic excommunication for doing so, as we know from their letters.

In the 1933 election, Hitler's nazi party actually lost seats iun the Reichstag. The party that benefited the most from the 1933 election was the communist party, as we know from the associated press reports covering the elections.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#568 Sep 25, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Guessed you missed the Senior Citizens booing Ryan as he was making a pitch to repeal the ACA, Seniors are supposed to be a key demographic for Romney/Ryan, well at least they were before Friday.
Repeal health care, and making the changes to Medicare are working real well for the GOP...... that is a debate they wanted as they said, right?
Senior citizens have been known to boo the lunch monitor in old age homes

"The Obama health law is an assault on seniors’ right to add their own money for health care. Section 3209 of the Obama Health Care Law has the government taking away the seniors right to spend their own money to save their own lives. Therefore, this shows that Obama does not like seniors, but can be seen as a means to decrease the senior population. Now that Obama care has passed, the individuals that have lived the longest will find their care the most restricted."

http://www.examiner.com/article/if-romney-doe...
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#569 Sep 25, 2012
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Get used to it, Mitt is DOA and I suspect most of the GOP senators running for re-elect.
The 47% are not pleased with "let em' eat cake" attitude of the GOP.
Mitt opened Pandora's Box and the GOP vermin are running to get away from 'all things'- Mitt 'Train Wreck' RobMe.
And the part I enjoy the best? <smirk>
Mr. Sweater vest Ricky Santorum (certifiable) almost got the RNC slot and after a narrow loss to RobMe.
He allowed the following advice:
Santorum: Romney "worst Republican" to face Obama
FRANKSVILLE, Wis.- In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as "the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama." Santorum later, however, bristled at the notion that he was referring to anything other than Romney's position on health care.
OUCH! The nut job was actually correct about something!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-574042...
New Headline:
Santorum predicted Mitt aka Thurston Howell III RobMe would be disaster!
MY god you people are beyond stupid, and unfortunately these isn't any cure. <sigh>


Get use to higher taxes under Mr Failure or should we call him Mr Amateur?
Beyond stupid is the Democratic base and as you mentioned there isn't any cure. Howard Stern interviewed Obama supporters in Harlem and not one of them knew that Osama bin Laden was dead.One thought McCain and Palin were running for office.Stern asked one person if Obama made the right choice by picking Paul Ryan as his running mate and if he did it because he is black and that person said Ryan was a good choice and didn't believe him being black was a problem. The Democratic Party is 90% Loony Tunes.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#570 Sep 28, 2012
Horsechit, Senior who aren't to sickly can/could always sign up for Medicare Advantage, administered by private health care HMOs.......

You are making up lies to try and remain relevant in the discussion... ROFLMAO

That's pretty pathetic.
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Senior citizens have been known to boo the lunch monitor in old age homes
"The Obama health law is an assault on seniors’ right to add their own money for health care. Section 3209 of the Obama Health Care Law has the government taking away the seniors right to spend their own money to save their own lives. Therefore, this shows that Obama does not like seniors, but can be seen as a means to decrease the senior population. Now that Obama care has passed, the individuals that have lived the longest will find their care the most restricted."
http://www.examiner.com/article/if-romney-doe...

“@FrankLeePlain”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#571 Sep 28, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is all in your mind.
Why do you lie and try to cover up for the atrocities of militant atheism?
Dr R J Rummell of the University of Hawaii estimated a minimum of 110,000,000 people killed because of atheistic communism between 1917 and 1987. In November 2005, Rummell revised the alleged democide in Mao's China (1949–1975) to 73,000,000.
"We Communists are atheists"
Chinese communist leader Chou En-lai (1955)
Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
Lenin
When we add the deaths attributed to Communist(We communists are atheists) China with those attributed to the Soviet(Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism) Union, state atheism killed 135,000,000.
I agree! I will not vote for a candidate who supports the Chinese communists.

Romney/Bain Invested in the Brutal Chinese Sweatshop He Described in Detail at Boca Raton Fundraiser
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/romne...

Obama Blocks Sale of Oregon Wind Farms to Chinese Company
http://grist.org/news/obama-blocks-sale-of-or...

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#572 Sep 30, 2012
China will probably buy the blue dress,
They may be conducting genetic research.

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