Nov 14, 2012
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ST. PAUL, Minn. - More valuable than any poll, Minnesota lawmakers got a strong pulse of their constituents this week on gay marriage through district-by-district, town-by-town results of a vote that rejected a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.
<quoted text> So NO COMPROMISE, ALL OR NOTHING, and on and on we will go FOREVER...just like with abortion...
I LOVE this little fallacy. Since when is abortion the same as marriage equality??
Reasonable people can come to wildly different conclusions about when "life" actually begins and at what point an abortion crosses the line between an elective procedure and doing real harm that someone should be protected from. Some people say when sperm meets egg. Some people say at viable live birth. And there are differing opinions at every stage throughout. All of them defensible and arguable.
But no such reasonable arguments can be made when it comes to marriage equality. There is NO point where one can argue marriage equality causes harm to anyone or anything. Never. Ever.
So while I agree with you that the abortion issue will likely simmer on forever, the marriage equality issue as a controversy will die a slow but timely death as soon as it gets adopted everywhere.
I was just at a gathering last weekend where several Canadians were in attendance. Some of the people there wanted to know every little detail about the wedding my husband and I had last September. Finally, one of the ladies from Canada said, "This is so strange that everyone's so fascinated by a gay wedding! We've had them so long in Canada now that no one thinks anything about them anymore."
Poor Jane Dough, she can't even get the gays to go along with her cockamamie idea, much less the hetero super-duper majority she'd need to actually pass it.
As you point out, if it had any grounding in reality, we would have seen it at least proposed if not passed by now. Instead, what we have seen is that most who are opposed to marriage equality, won't even accept "civil union" arrangements that don't even attempt to offer all of the legal rights and protections that accompany marriage. Many of the constitutional amendments passed make that clear. It seems it is just an attempt to find rationalizations for her prejudice, by blaming us for not accepting it.
<quoted text> As you point out, if it had any grounding in reality, we would have seen it at least proposed if not passed by now. Instead, what we have seen is that most who are opposed to marriage equality, won't even accept "civil union" arrangements that don't even attempt to offer all of the legal rights and protections that accompany marriage. Many of the constitutional amendments passed make that clear. It seems it is just an attempt to find rationalizations for her prejudice, by blaming us for not accepting it.
Yep, it's somehow OUR fault that the 90% majority hasn't passed her "civil partnerships" law. I forgot how powerful we are.
I haven't seen any haboobs yet, but I know they occur frequently in Phoenix because they're on the local news here whenever they occur.
I'm about 50 miles southeast of Phoenix, and about 65 miles northwest of Tucson, and there doesn't seem to be any history of adverse weather here at all. We're had less than a total of 5" of rain all year, and although I've seen a couple of dust devils south of the city, weather-wise there doesn't seem to be much of anything that goes on here at all. There are cotton fields and open fields north, south, and west of me here (It's cotton country here I found out much to my surprise). It's 73 degrees here right now and it's sposed to be in the 80's most of the week here.
Certainly a lot nicer than the 5' of snow, and -15 F. weather I experienced the last year I was in New York. AND parts of New York are STILL without power because of Superstorm Sandy, and my mother had to evacuate New York because of it as she lost all utilities during the storm.
Here in southern Arizona, it just seems to be an abundence of sunshine, WARM weather, and COLD beer.
Unfortunately, my car broke down yesterday, and the fix-it man says he won't have it fixed til soemtime on Friday, so I'm stuck out here alone in the desert for a few days.
(Which is EXACTLY WHY GOD invnted COLD beer and WARM cats !:)).
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