Kathy Dahlkemper: I Wouldn't Have Voted for Obamacare If I'd Known About HHS ...

Feb 8, 2012 Full story: Free Republic 72

Former Democratic congresswoman Kathy Dahlkemper, a Catholic from Erie, Pennsylvania, cast a crucial vote in favor of Obamacare in 2010.

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Marvin

Lakeside Marblehead, OH

#1 Feb 8, 2012
coulda woulda shoulda... she just confirmed that she is cumb dunt.
Taxpayer

Fairview, PA

#2 Feb 8, 2012
It's her hair, nothing under it!
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#3 Feb 8, 2012
No excuses. Did she not READ THE BILL before voting for it? Or did she just listen to Pelosi tell her what was in it? Yes, we know. Typical politician, pretending NOW to be offended on a bill that she voted for. Incompetence at its finest.
CRANK

Erie, PA

#4 Feb 8, 2012
The perfect explanation of why she is no longer in office.
Taxpayer

Fairview, PA

#5 Feb 8, 2012
just think, we paid for her not to read it "and find out what's in it" lol, taxpayers on the hook again!
She at least could have had a staffer read it and tell her what was in it!! Bedtime story with Nancy!
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Feb 8, 2012
Hey,

You know what pelosi said;

“We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it”

**********

Read it here:

Try SUBTITLE D - SECTION 2301

http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/reform/patie...
Catholic Democrat

United States

#7 Feb 8, 2012
Not all Catholics are right wing nutcases. A small handful try to make it look that way.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#8 Feb 8, 2012
So she supports the male created Reiich-wing propaganda. BFD.

The issue is simply about birth control products already approved and already a part of most insurance policies. The only mandate is that insurance providers will now be required to provide those products without additional cost to all women who want to use them. There is NO MANDATE for anyone to get a prescription, fill the prescription, let alone use the pills. It is simply another attempt by the out of touch (supposedly celebrate) OLD MEN to control a woman's right to choose when the time is right to carry and bear a child.

Catholics For Choice Poll Found 63 Percent Of American Catholics Support Coverage For "Contraception, Such As Birth Control Pills." According to a 2009 poll conducted for Catholics for Choice, 63 percent of American Catholics said that "health insurance policies -- whether they are private or government -- should cover ... contraception, such as birth control pills." http://www.brspoll.com/uploads/files/Catholic ...

CATHOLIC UNITED'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR:“ Although we recognize the authority of Catholic teaching on the issue of contraception, we also acknowledge that there is a silver lining in today's ruling. Increased access to contraceptive services will dramatically reduce the abortion rate in America. Reducing abortion should be a goal recognized by both sides of this highly polarized debate." http://www.brspoll.com/uploads/files/Catholic ...
FYI

Erie, PA

#9 Feb 8, 2012
Catholic Democrat wrote:
Not all Catholics are right wing nutcases. A small handful try to make it look that way.
Don't you mean a small handful of left wing nutcases are trying to destroy the Church and drag her down to their level.
Unemployerie

United States

#10 Feb 8, 2012
FYI wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you mean a small handful of left wing nutcases are trying to destroy the Church and drag her down to their level.
No that is not what I mean. And polls are showing that most Catholic women have no desire to be brood mares.
Fact

Naperville, IL

#11 Feb 8, 2012
Catholic Democrat wrote:
Not all Catholics are right wing nutcases. A small handful try to make it look that way.
All Catholics oppose abortion or they're not catholic by definition.
Fact

Naperville, IL

#12 Feb 8, 2012
Unemployerie wrote:
<quoted text>No that is not what I mean. And polls are showing that most Catholic women have no desire to be brood mares.
More women are pro life than pro choice, as is the whole population.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#13 Feb 8, 2012
Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
More women are pro life than pro choice, as is the whole population.
Completely untrue. A slight majority of the country considers themselves pro-choice, and as for women, the PC/PL split is more like 50/44, which makes half of them pro-choice.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/americans-s...
Unemployerie

United States

#14 Feb 8, 2012
Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
All Catholics oppose abortion or they're not catholic by definition.
not talking about abortion. Talking about birth control. Which reduces the number of women seeking abortions. Plain common sense.
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#15 Feb 8, 2012
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Completely untrue. A slight majority of the country considers themselves pro-choice, and as for women, the PC/PL split is more like 50/44, which makes half of them pro-choice.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/americans-s...
Problem is, both statements are not mutually exclusive. A person can be "pro-life" as it relates to their own beliefs and personal choices. The same person may also realize that they can't dictate the same behavior to others, so are "pro-choice" for the sake of the current law and other individuals, not themselves. The "pro-life" person will not willingly support abortion, but understands that, by law, they cannot stop anyone else from having one.

The terms are misleading as a person can technically be both.
CRANK

Erie, PA

#16 Feb 8, 2012
Dances with Wolves wrote:
<quoted text>
Problem is, both statements are not mutually exclusive. A person can be "pro-life" as it relates to their own beliefs and personal choices. The same person may also realize that they can't dictate the same behavior to others, so are "pro-choice" for the sake of the current law and other individuals, not themselves. The "pro-life" person will not willingly support abortion, but understands that, by law, they cannot stop anyone else from having one.
The terms are misleading as a person can technically be both.
You are leaving out the cost aspect. Many of those that would support a women's right to choose, also support the concept of not using tax dollars to pay for it. More of the opposition is based upon being forced to subsidize it, than the procedure itself. Those opposed to the economics get lumped in with those opposed for religious reasons. Not the same thing in all cases.
Marvin

Lakeside Marblehead, OH

#17 Feb 8, 2012
Unemployerie wrote:
<quoted text>not talking about abortion. Talking about birth control. Which reduces the number of women seeking abortions. Plain common sense.
your mama's egg was fertilized on a gummed up bus station toilet seat. When did you pass the fetus stage ?
Steinhagen

Erie, PA

#18 Feb 8, 2012
PlacitasRoy wrote:
So she supports the male created Reiich-wing propaganda. BFD.
The issue is simply about birth control products already approved and already a part of most insurance policies. The only mandate is that insurance providers will now be required to provide those products without additional cost to all women who want to use them. There is NO MANDATE for anyone to get a prescription, fill the prescription, let alone use the pills. It is simply another attempt by the out of touch (supposedly celebrate) OLD MEN to control a woman's right to choose when the time is right to carry and bear a child.
Catholics For Choice Poll Found 63 Percent Of American Catholics Support Coverage For "Contraception, Such As Birth Control Pills." According to a 2009 poll conducted for Catholics for Choice, 63 percent of American Catholics said that "health insurance policies -- whether they are private or government -- should cover ... contraception, such as birth control pills." http://www.brspoll.com/uploads/files/Catholic ...
CATHOLIC UNITED'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR:“ Although we recognize the authority of Catholic teaching on the issue of contraception, we also acknowledge that there is a silver lining in today's ruling. Increased access to contraceptive services will dramatically reduce the abortion rate in America. Reducing abortion should be a goal recognized by both sides of this highly polarized debate." http://www.brspoll.com/uploads/files/Catholic ...
Hey stupid, it is about governments violating religious principles as stated in the Separation of Church and State. It is only a 90 mile swim to Cuba comrade. Maybe you'll get lucky and make it before a shark bites your empty head off.
Mitt Rmoney

United States

#19 Feb 8, 2012
Marvin wrote:
<quoted text>your mama's egg was fertilized on a gummed up bus station toilet seat. When did you pass the fetus stage ?
backto second grade level name calling. Cause that's all you got.
imsi12b

Erie, PA

#20 Feb 8, 2012
Steinhagen wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey stupid, it is about governments violating religious principles as stated in the Separation of Church and State. It is only a 90 mile swim to Cuba comrade. Maybe you'll get lucky and make it before a shark bites your empty head off.
Indeed he is a typical liberal hypocrite.

Catholics is really beside the point. Aside from the fact that most Catholics don't actually work for the the Catholic Church, charities or hospitals, people who are practicing Catholics or who work for Catholic institutions know the proscriptions and if they feel that strongly that they should be so provided, should find another church or another job. They know the church believes it is wrong. It is a principle of that religion that must be accepted and respected even if they choose not to adhere to it. It's like forcing the Amish elders to buy light bulbs for their brethren. I suppose some cheat and actually use an electric light from time to time, I don't know, but they all know what their faith demands. Regardless, They don't expect a pack of soft-whites on their doorstep.

It amazes me how progressive lefties are always popping off yelling "establishment clause" and "violation of 'church and state!'" every five minutes but are hypocritically oblivious to the rights of religion and religious expression.

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