E Cigarettes May Be More Effective Than Swine Flu Vaccine

"Sprayed its air first with propylene glycol, then with influenza virus. All the mice lived.

[MikDee]

Hooray! One good point for the e-cigarette! There are so many people on the e-cigarette forums that have quit smoking regular cigarettes (analogs), that's what they call them, by switching to the e-cigarette, it is a godsend. Patches, & gum, did not work for a lot of these people, but the e-cigarette did! I think the "vapers" as they're called are the future for smoking, instead of big Gvmt. & the tabacco companies trying to ban them, they need to retool, & gear up to produce them and, or parts, & supplies for them.

[discusseded]

Well, at least THIS one has the grace to say out front that it is a "press release". One thing it DOESN'T say is what the concentration of propylene glycol is in the e-cigarette mist. If low concentrations kill germs, what do high concentrations over prolonged/repeated exposures kill?

Another thing it fails to divulge is what other chemicals are involved because of the composition/vaporization-metho d used.

What it DOES say is:

"It expels an almost odorless water vapor that looks like smoke, but isn't."

Gross misrepresentation, if it also contains nicotine, propylene glycol, and the mix of chemicals in the flavoring.

Oh, yeah, it ALSO fails to mention that flu vaccines undergo some pretty rigorous testing and that just calling it a flu vaccine isn't enough to get a particular model passed on the strength of the performance of another model.

[MikDee]

Well, vegetable glycerin is also available to use as an alternative to propylene glycol in e-cigarettes. Who knows what else is in them, but I'm sure it's less then tar, & multiple other dangerous additives in a normal (analog) cigarette.

[LaceyUnderall]

I have to say that this press release has been bugging me since it was released almost two weeks ago. Why? Because while the studies are excellent reads, it always concerns me when someone tries to link something of great potential to something that scares the living daylights out of some. It dilutes the potential... And that is sad.

Flu vaccines actually haven't undergone serious clinical testing and this recent round, has actually been tested AS it has been given. Not to mention the cause for concern that they are diluting it in order to offer more people the vaccine... of which there is really no proof that it does work... because of all the people who got the vaccine, how many might not have gotten the flu in the first place?(not picking a fight with you discussded... I personally don't believe in the flu vaccine for a multitude of reasons of which if you agree with the vaccine, then I respect that)

Also, of all the studies I have my hands on regarding the vapor of the ecig, there is no evidence that nicotine is present. Studies have also been done that there is no nicotine in the second hand smoke of a tobacco cigarette. And I know you will say: "Who paid for that study?"... Yes... I do take each study as a grain of salt ;)

However, that said, I am patiently waiting for one really really big vapor test to come out from one lab who has done testing on the same products as tested by the FDA and as soon as that is available, I will surely post!

[Ted]

propylene glycol is also used in asthma inhalers that approx 6% of our youth population is using, and since it is the vehicle for the medications, I an sure it is safe, and it is also on the FDA GRAS list (generaly recognized as safe).

As for the vaccines, if they are highly tested, why did the president give the pharma companies immunity? Are they highly tested and safe? A lot of experts are saying they are not.

[Tomorrow]

I haven't tried one of these, but would give it a shot if offered one.