Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

There are 1637 comments on the Q-Notes story from Feb 13, 2013, titled Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?. In it, Q-Notes reports that:

President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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barry

Rainsville, AL

#1102 May 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Your sad apologetic fairy tale has already been shattered. First Japhia existed way before the NT myth was penned and continued to remain by that name after it was written. It's over a mile away. And he would have been called Jesus of Japhia not Jesus of Nazareth.
Care to fail again?
Lmfao!
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japhia was a conquered city of an enemy of the israelites. why would they want to continue to call it japhia? japhia is also another of those cities that moved because of war. it was not in it's original OT location. perhaps a new and the original nazerath.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1103 May 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>got to love those na's who thought that they had to appease their gods with human sacrifices. that when a king/chief died his wives and sometimes his kids along with any slaves/servants were buried with him. wait, they must have stolen that from the egyptians.
http://www.examiner.com/article/evidence-foun... ...
The "examiner" is a rag-- nothing it reports is valid or trust-worthy.

Pass-- and no, I did not read beyond your link.

In any case?

They are STILL 1000% better than INFINITE TORTURE by YOUR ugly godling.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1104 May 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>well then i guess the children of israel really had to struggle against those egyptians in order to occupy their land. not really, egypt lost their army in the sea. amazing how God worked that out.
Never happened.

In studying Egyptian archeology? There is NO evidence-- NONE, of any Israelites EVER having lived within the borders-- NONE.

Nor is there evidence of a mass exit by thousands (or more).

None.

So your ugly and boastful bible story is just that: a story.

Never happened.

At all.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1105 May 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>japhia was a conquered city of an enemy of the israelites. why would they want to continue to call it japhia? japhia is also another of those cities that moved because of war. it was not in it's original OT location. perhaps a new and the original nazerath.
The above? Is 100% bullsh7t.

From a lying bullshytter...

... what else is new?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1106 May 6, 2013
If only they would represent their arguments with a bit more facts... Oops!

:))
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yes... yes he is. Sad, isn't it?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1107 May 6, 2013
We have early Christian documents from the year 115 that says where you find Catholics you find Christians.

Sorry your Protestant cult lied to you. Back in the day I was a baptist and they never said such foolishness.
barry wrote:
<quoted text>oh, excuse me, they only persecuted heretics. sometimes wiping out whole cities including their own to eliminate any threat of dissent they were really Christ-like now weren't they?
and the cc was not organized until the 4th century when constantine adopted and gave them authority.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1108 May 6, 2013
You see this is one of those posts that make Christians look really really stupid.

The sheer level of ignorance is astounding.
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so maybe the egyptians got their ideas from someone else? interesting.
maybe, just maybe the Bible accounts are correct because God preserved the truth while others, maybe the egyptians polluted it.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1109 May 6, 2013
Oh you are quoting the Moses myth that stole the drowning of an army in the sea account from a centuries earlier Zeus tale. Guess what? Neither happened.

Lol!

Care to fail again?
barry wrote:
<quoted text>well then i guess the children of israel really had to struggle against those egyptians in order to occupy their land. not really, egypt lost their army in the sea. amazing how God worked that out.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1110 May 6, 2013
Wow you are all over the place on your bible fan fiction writing!

The city was there before and after the time of Jesus unmoved and under the same name. Nazareth is over a mile away. It was Japhia centuries before Jesus, during his supposed life and centuries after his supposed execution.

He wasn't called Jesus of Japhia was he? Even Josephus mapped out and described Japhia in great detail.

Care to fail again?
barry wrote:
<quoted text>japhia was a conquered city of an enemy of the israelites. why would they want to continue to call it japhia? japhia is also another of those cities that moved because of war. it was not in it's original OT location. perhaps a new and the original nazerath.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1111 May 6, 2013
He must be writing biblical fan fiction!

Next up he'll say Jesus free style rapped Run DMC's it's tricky before Pilate!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>The above? Is 100% bullsh7t.

From a lying bullshytter...

... what else is new?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1112 May 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He must be writing biblical fan fiction!
Next up he'll say Jesus free style rapped Run DMC's it's tricky before Pilate!
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He is quite desperate to find excuses which allow his myth-cult to remain plausible.

... unfortunately, his "plausible" would be "highly unlikely" to everyone else...

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#1113 May 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>abraham didn't have a daughter. nor do you seem to understand the significance of the story.
Sorry for the mistake. I was supposed too say son. The point of the story was to show how slavish Abraham was to God.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1114 May 7, 2013
Abraham? You mean the guy who forced a slave girl to carry his baby at the request of his wife and ten force her and her son into the desert when his wife changed her mind even though the slave girl and his first son were kind god fearing people?

What a guy!
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry for the mistake. I was supposed too say son. The point of the story was to show how slavish Abraham was to God.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#1115 May 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Abraham? You mean the guy who forced a slave girl to carry his baby at the request of his wife and ten force her and her son into the desert when his wife changed her mind even though the slave girl and his first son were kind god fearing people?
What a guy!
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These are the people that Christians, Jews, and Muxxies honor as prophets.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#1116 May 7, 2013
I know! If a man did today what Abraham did back then? He would be branded a psychopath monster. And worse god did not tell Abraham to throw his first born son and slave girl wife into the unforgiving desert! Abraham did that all on his own. Even by apologetic standards Abraham was a monster.
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>These are the people that Christians, Jews, and Muxxies honor as prophets.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1117 May 7, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>abraham didn't have a daughter. nor do you seem to understand the significance of the story.
That is something you can't know. Looking at the buybull's documentation of girl children born to anyone, could make a rational person assume that in those days, no man could father a daughter unless she was to be sacrificed, sold into slavery, raped into marriage or stoned in the streets. Hence approximately one female child born to the biblical actors, for every hundred or so sons. Daughters along with the livestock, were numbered among the household possessions, and sons counted among the human group called family.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#1118 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The above? Is 100% bullsh7t.
From a lying bullshytter...
... what else is new?
your esteemed opinion is noted.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#1119 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The "examiner" is a rag-- nothing it reports is valid or trust-worthy.
Pass-- and no, I did not read beyond your link.
In any case?
They are STILL 1000% better than INFINITE TORTURE by YOUR ugly godling.
Richard Thornton is a Creek Indian architect, city planner, author and researcher into Native American history. His professional work in support of archaeologists began in college, when he received a fellowship to study Mesoamerican architecture and urban planning in Mexico. In 2004 he began carrying out research projects for Native American tribes that studied their cultural history. He is a founding member and newsletter editor of the People of One Fire, a national alliance of Native American scholars.

Richard Thornton is an architect and city planner, with a very broad range of professional experiences. His practice is concentrated in the Southern Highlands of the United States, but also has included projects in other parts of the nation and in Sweden. He has been the architect for a broad range of institutional, commercial and residential projects. Richard is particular noted for his work in downtown revitalization, historic preservation and architectural history. and won several historic preservation and urban design awards. He was the first recipent of the Barrett Fellowship, which enabled him to spend several months in Mesoamerica studing its pre-European civilizations under the auspices of the Museo Nacional de Antropologia in Mexico City. In 2004 he was approached by some members of the Muscogee (Creek) National Council about carrying out research into Native American architectural history and writing books for Native American students from these studies.

you reject articles by athiests who don't agree with you.
you reject articles by esteemed professors who don't agree with you.
now you reject a qualified native American who disagrees with you.

i think we can see a pattern here. you are the only expert that counts.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#1120 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Never happened.
In studying Egyptian archeology? There is NO evidence-- NONE, of any Israelites EVER having lived within the borders-- NONE.
Nor is there evidence of a mass exit by thousands (or more).
None.
So your ugly and boastful bible story is just that: a story.
Never happened.
At all.
well, no evidence that you would accept.
the Ipuwer Papyrus sounds very much like another accounting of the beginning of the book of Exodus.
a temple memorializing Amenhotep III's domination of foreign peoples contains a reference to the God Yhw.
archaeological sites that might contain more evidence have been traditionally restricted by the egyptian gov.
the ancient rock carvings on display in the National Archeological Museum in Leiden, Netherlands record the plagues.

and the list could go on. just because there is no conclusive evidence for something does not then mean that it did not happen. when considering what does exist one wouild have to say that there is also no conclusive evidence against it either.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#1121 May 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
We have early Christian documents from the year 115 that says where you find Catholics you find Christians.
Sorry your Protestant cult lied to you. Back in the day I was a baptist and they never said such foolishness.
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we do, help me out here. can you list or post a few?

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