Call for arrest of watch captain who ...

Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 29778 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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BoJangles

Seattle, WA

#27385 Jun 29, 2013
higgans wrote:
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because you assume too much...
let's see:
#1 ASSumption: a person with a gun MUST be wanting to use it. if this were true, then 90+% of all armed guards and LE, let alone the MILLIONS of gun owners and gun carriers would have 'found' a reason to pull and shoot. yet.... they haven't.
therefore, GZ is NO diff than the TENS OF MILLIONS of folks that carry guns EVERYDAY of every year: A NON-USER.
#2 ASSumption: GZ was looking to shoot someone, preferrably a black person, no matter what. yet, he never displayed his weapon... not even to intimidate TM (see the liar, DeeDee's, testimony about their intitial 'meeting'). TM's first words to GZ when they met were not "Hey! Why the gun, bro?", were they?
#3 ASSumption: TM had no prior fighting experience OR attitude and he was not looking to get a little respect from the 'creepy ass cracker', or 'ni%$#r' that was FOLLOWING him. again, according to the State's STAR wit, she alleged TM had BOTH fighting experience and, like before, he would have told her his attentions.
since she did NOT call 911 or his parents when the 'fight' started, she MUST have thought HE STARTED IT... like he MUST have told her.
just because she did NOT tell us doesn't mean it did not happen. matter of fact, the Def was juuuussssst getting to that when the State objected and the Judge stopped it!(you really should have watched the testimony before ASSuming and posting.LOL)
#4 ASSumption: there was no struggle between the two FOR THE GUN. that would give either 'combatants' the ability to shoot/kill the other. funny, ain't it, how guns don't care WHO pulls the trigger?
the fact that so many are quick AND SO WILLING to blame GZ for SURVIVING is really pretty disheartening....
any way, you get the picture... or most likely, DON'T.
SORRY that the whole incident did not go TM's way and GZ would just be another unsolved mugging or MURDER victim.
tell us, if TM had completed his 'beat down' of the 'crazy ass cracker' that dissed him so bad by following him, and HAD GOTTEN AWAY, do you think DeeDee would have reported what she knew to the police when the date, time and circumstance of the crime become publicized.... like a 'good citizen'?
well, given that she didn't contact police or family when her 'friend' turned up dead.....
I guess we should be like Blanche and be thankful for the 'kindness of strangers' for those folks that did call the police to come to the aide of TWO complete unknowns.
and we should hope to never have 'friends' like DeeDee.... if we did, who would remember us?lol
Are you assuming I used the word "assume" LOLOLOL
Have a nice day! LOLOLOL
Florida Fatties

Spring, TX

#27386 Jun 29, 2013
Sneaky Pete wrote:
<quoted text>Hey loser, if you don't like the fact that I'm not PC, it's your problem, not mine. They called them Mexicans back in the old days, and that's what I'm going with. Just like I don't call blacks, "African-Americans", I'm not going to start using words like Hispanic, Latino, or whatever other word happens to be PC this week.
You missed the whole point. If you want to just get your crayon box and use black, brown, yellow, white, red, etc. that is your right. The point is George is not white. Match him up to the white in your crayon box. Then go to black. He's not really black either. Then get your brown. Of course, it depends on what picture you choose to match the color to. When he was first arrested, he looked black/white mix. Now he looks brown/white mix since you want to choose colors only.

Most African-Americans are also a mix of black, white, red, etc. I am going with colors since this is all you seem to understand. George was also Catholic at one time. What color is Catholic?

His background and culture are important. He is stating it was God's will that the kid died, not his. He is taking no responsibility. He also says given the same scenario, he would not change a thing. He would get out of his vehicle and pursue again. Whatever color, he does not strike me as being very smart. His brother is very verbally astute, loves to dazzle with a great vocabulary, but it's all smoke, mirrors and eyewash.

Would you be more comfortable with the term half-breed which is repugnant to some?

It's very ironic to me that George is making all these calls for suspicious characters and saying something is wrong with people. Did it ever occur to him that there was something wrong and off about himself?

Hopefully, they will turn him loose so he will have to work for a living or live off mommy, daddy and donations. He was very irresponsible for someone almost 30. It's too bad they didn't do a drug screen on him for both elicit and prescription drugs plus alcohol. He did sponge off his parents until they kicked him to the curb. See if you can find this. I'm not doing homework for you.

Tired of Silly

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#27387 Jun 29, 2013
wisdom usedhere wrote:
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Have you ever heard of fighting back like a man ? Not as sissy and shoot someone that you pick a fight with -- because you end up getting punched in the nose. Betta ya that George and his wife had talked about this plan way before he ever shot the boy. He was too fast to come up with the self defense story, and way to calm after.
Did George mention to anyone who seen the fight, That he was afraid he was going to kill me and I had to shoot him ? NO ! Did George even try to fight back - NO!
He had a gun and planed on using it when he first seen the boy and jumped in his truck and went after him.
He was lying about going to the store or he would have drove in the other direction.
This is by far the stupidest argument of all the stupid arguments that the ThugTray supports try to make. What kind of idiot lets some ghetto ape beat them up when they have a gun to stop it with? If the state had a case against Mr. Zimmerman they wouldn't be making fools of themselves with witnesses who support Mr. Zimmerman's account of the attack by ThugTray.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#27388 Jun 29, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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Oh please, she could help that hair!!!! No one made her do that and she sure wasn't born with that mess on her head! She probably can't help being stupid, so what???? We should tolerate stupid just because stupid people can't help it?!?!?!? That's just nonsense. I agree that she likely wouldn't be a beauty queen no matter what, but that god-awful hairdo, the ruffly blouse (big girls shouldn't wear ruffles, Rachel!)......all that is deliberate. As for her character, she has no character. She's a lying sack of crap, a drug using dirtbag, and an attention seeking brat. All that crap about not wanting to testify was just that. The cow was loving all the attention, she's just annoyed b/c she thought she was going to be the big star of the show and it turned out that she's a laughing stock and is on the wrong side of the aisle, the losing side. Insensitive? Perhaps. Honest? Always. You can't shine s**t, and I don't try. HoRachel, like her "friend" ThugTray, is ghetto trash.
Listen to yourself! Please don't sound so petty. Would you put down a retarded person this way? I would hope not. She may be borderline retarded, so it wouldn't be very nice to attack her intelligence, now would it? The hairdo may look good to some people, so what? Some people think stringy straight hair is trashy looking while others think it's chic. She is grossly overweight. it could be caused from making bad choices or a result of a condition. Does she irritate the hell out of me? Absolutely. Her disregard towards the court and crackers seems a little transparent. I agree is lacks all credibility because she has lied at least twice in the past. Based on the body language during her questioning, I feel very confident she was not telling the truth on the stand. Her little act was not convincing. She intentionally made it difficult for her to understand and to question. The defense lacked the talent to question her properly.

And yes, we should tolerate those with low intelligence. They are people too. We shouldn't tolerate racism, hatred and lying which I believe she is guilty of. I am disappointed with the way Martins parents are behaving because they didn't give a rats tail for him while alive. Mama was kicking him out of her home, wasn't she? Dad goes to bed not knowing where his son was even though there was a shooting right outside his door. Very very odd.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#27389 Jun 29, 2013
made it difficult to understand her and to question.
BoJangles

Seattle, WA

#27390 Jun 29, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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Go buy some crack, you useless ape. Sorry, forgot, it's the end of the month, you have to wait for your next handout check. I'll say thank you to the jury when they find Mr. Zimmerman not guilty, as they surely will. The state is making complete fools of themselves with their non-case. The cow-faced "special prosecutor" is likely to be disbarred for her failure to do a REAL investigation before charging an innocent man, and there's talk of a class-action suit from citizens who aren't happy about our tax dollars being wasted on a witch hunt designed to do nothing more than placate violent animals like you.
You've been a miserable wench ever since that black guy stole your cookie. LOLOLOLOL

Since: Aug 11

topic

#27391 Jun 29, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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Of course the sperm donor and the incubator will file a wrongful death suit. What do you think their boy Crumple does for a living??? What do you think this entire charade has been about???? Those two worthless beasts started this whole charade because THEY WANT MONEY. They want to use the corpse of the kid they failed to raise properly, causing him to grow up a violent ape, as their personal ATM. They are the most despicable garbage I've ever seen, and yes of COURSE they will file suit. That's the only reason THIS charade was pressed for, to set up THAT charade.
Dreamer!

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#27392 Jun 29, 2013
incredulous wrote:
The defense lacked the talent to question her properly
I don't even think Matlock would've been able to get an intelligent response out if this ghetto pig.

Since: May 11

AOL

#27393 Jun 29, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>You're insane. No reasonable person would make such a comparison. Martin wasn't afraid in the least. He would have gone home before Zimmerman was even off the phone with the police, he was afraid of the creepy cracker. Naw, Martin was planning on killing him and the tables were reversed, in the end.
If Martin was planning to kill the obese stalker, then wouldn't he put his phone away first?
Florida Fatties

Spring, TX

#27394 Jun 29, 2013
Incredulous,

I doubt there are very many 17 + year old boys who stay at home all the time. His dad might have thought he was at a friend's house or had left with someone. People act like he was 7 instead of 17. He was not mentally challenged. He was an A/B student and played football.

There should have been an intervention for some of his behaviors as seen on Facebook and also his problems in school. The challenge usually is that tardiness, graffiti and whatever the other charge was are not violent offenses. Juvenile detention usually would release someone like that to his parents if he even went to JD at all. Both GZ and TM needed interventions that they didn't receive. Now, both their lives are wrecked. One is dead and the other one might as well have gone with him. His life as he knew it is over.

I've been in situations similar to GZ. I mind my own business, go the other way, stay in the car, call for someone to escort me to my car, etc. If GZ had so many friends in Twin Retreat, why didn't he call a few of them that night and get them outside? Why did he have to go Rambo?

Since: Aug 11

topic

#27395 Jun 29, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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This is by far the stupidest argument of all the stupid arguments that the ThugTray supports try to make. What kind of idiot lets some ghetto ape beat them up when they have a gun to stop it with? If the state had a case against Mr. Zimmerman they wouldn't be making fools of themselves with witnesses who support Mr. Zimmerman's account of the attack by ThugTray.
I didn't say lets him beat him up, I said started a fight and them instead of fighting back, the Idiot shot him.
Did the kid have one mark on him anywhere, that showed George tried to fight back other than the hole in his chest ? No! This is the proof that Sissy George planned
on using the gun, not his fists.

Since: May 11

AOL

#27396 Jun 29, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Well if I had plans on killing somebody, the last people I would alert are the police, don't you think?
If that was GZ's plan, he could have easily chased Martin, shot him, and then tell police he was checking the neighborhood out when Martin attacked him for no reason. It would have barely made local news.
Sure, you can fight back as a man provided you have an idea of who you are fighting. There is a difference between an arranged agreed fight and assaulting somebody who has no desire to fight. Hell, I'm 53 years old, 6'3" and 225 lbs. I was trained all the way up to black belt some years ago, and I still would shoot somebody who attacked me if I had no idea who they were and what their intent was. Civilized people don't attack each other.
You must have missed my post to you a few days back where you asked for ONE example of someone calling police as they went on their way with the plan to shoot someone. I told you Raul Rodriguez of Texas did just that. He's in prison now:D
GZ knew the laws about SYG too, and thought that was his license to kill. But wait! here we are in a trial about 'self defense' when all the obese shooter had to do was have a SYG hearing..wha' happened? Why didn't your hero present his case before a judge and walk away a righteous man?

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#27397 Jun 29, 2013
wisdom usedhere wrote:
This is the proof that Sissy George planned
on using the gun, not his fists.
Hey, Mr conspiracy nut, I saw Bigfoot and JFK this morning at the coffee shop. They said you were a no-show for the crop circle drills at Area 51 last Tuesday. What gives?

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#27398 Jun 29, 2013
They told me to tell you that Elvis has the secret video proving Zimmerman is guilty and to give him a call this afternoon.

Message delivered...

Tired of Silly

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#27399 Jun 29, 2013
wisdom usedhere wrote:
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I didn't say lets him beat him up, I said started a fight and them instead of fighting back, the Idiot shot him.
Did the kid have one mark on him anywhere, that showed George tried to fight back other than the hole in his chest ? No! This is the proof that Sissy George planned
on using the gun, not his fists.
You can say whatever stupid thing you want, that doesn't make it true.(Ask the ghetto pig Rachel, she'll tell you that lying doesn't make it so!) There is ZERO evidence that Mr. Zimmerman started a fight. There is LOTS of evidence that ThugTray jumped him, sucker-punched him and had him on the ground in a matter of seconds. Oh and the PA who testified yesterday did indeed say that she believed from her clinical examination that Mr. Zimmerman's nose was broken. The ghetto ape broke it with that first sucker punch. Blood was likely running down Mr. Zimmerman's throat and making him feel that he could not get air. The only alternative he had to shooting that filthy animal was to let the animal kill him. What kind of NUT thinks that he should have let the ape kill him?!?!?

Tired of Silly

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#27400 Jun 29, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Listen to yourself! Please don't sound so petty. Would you put down a retarded person this way? I would hope not. She may be borderline retarded, so it wouldn't be very nice to attack her intelligence, now would it? The hairdo may look good to some people, so what? Some people think stringy straight hair is trashy looking while others think it's chic. She is grossly overweight. it could be caused from making bad choices or a result of a condition. Does she irritate the hell out of me? Absolutely. Her disregard towards the court and crackers seems a little transparent. I agree is lacks all credibility because she has lied at least twice in the past. Based on the body language during her questioning, I feel very confident she was not telling the truth on the stand. Her little act was not convincing. She intentionally made it difficult for her to understand and to question. The defense lacked the talent to question her properly.
And yes, we should tolerate those with low intelligence. They are people too. We shouldn't tolerate racism, hatred and lying which I believe she is guilty of. I am disappointed with the way Martins parents are behaving because they didn't give a rats tail for him while alive. Mama was kicking him out of her home, wasn't she? Dad goes to bed not knowing where his son was even though there was a shooting right outside his door. Very very odd.
She may be this, she may be that.......I don't give a dang what the ghetto pig is or isn't except that she's a liar, a racist, a drug using piece of ghetto trash. And if I want to dislike her ridiculous "hairstyle" or her ugly clothes, I'm allowed to do that too. Please refrain from preaching to me. I don't like stupid people and I don't like liars. HoDede (how did that cow get the nickname Dede out of Rachel anyway???) is both. She's had her 5 minutes of fame and she blew the state's already flimsy case right out of the water. Now she can go get high and crank out welfare babies.
NSBResident

Edgewater, FL

#27401 Jun 29, 2013
wisdom usedhere wrote:
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Dreamer!
Dreamer? They almost immediately trademarked Trayvon's name, they filed suit against the Homeowners Association and wanted the amount of money they got kept secret, and now are lying, through their attorney saying that they NEVER made this racial.

This family has seen dollar signs since almost immediately after their son's death. So much for a grieving family..........
NSBResident

Edgewater, FL

#27402 Jun 29, 2013
Tired of Silly wrote:
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She may be this, she may be that.......I don't give a dang what the ghetto pig is or isn't except that she's a liar, a racist, a drug using piece of ghetto trash. And if I want to dislike her ridiculous "hairstyle" or her ugly clothes, I'm allowed to do that too. Please refrain from preaching to me. I don't like stupid people and I don't like liars. HoDede (how did that cow get the nickname Dede out of Rachel anyway???) is both. She's had her 5 minutes of fame and she blew the state's already flimsy case right out of the water. Now she can go get high and crank out welfare babies.
I have to wonder if she lied about her age to prevent her from possibly being charged for having sex with a minor since she apparently was 18 last February. Usually minors lie about being 18, not 18 year old lying about being younger

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#27403 Jun 29, 2013
zazz wrote:
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You need to do some research on an affirmative defense.
The question is not if Zimmerman whot Trayvon. We all know he did.
Check out affirmative defense. Self defense.
The 2012 Florida Statutes

Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE

776.041&#8195;Use of force by aggressor-

The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(1)&#8195;Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony;

or

(2)&#8195;Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a)&#8195;Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant.

**********

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#27404 Jun 29, 2013
NSBResident wrote:
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Dreamer? They almost immediately trademarked Trayvon's name, they filed suit against the Homeowners Association and wanted the amount of money they got kept secret, and now are lying, through their attorney saying that they NEVER made this racial.
This family has seen dollar signs since almost immediately after their son's death. So much for a grieving family..........
Joe Oliver and Frank Taffee were being paid for TV appearances before anyone from the Martin family was, Frank is still raking in checks from HLN's JVM and Nancy Grace Shows. Robert Jr has made the rounds as well and almost guaranteed his BI-lingual self a spot on dirtbag reality shows for years to come.

The HOA's rollover attorney wanted the payout kept secret not Ben Crump.

The case became racially charged as it fell on the heels of the Sherman Ware case which cost a Sanford police chief his job. Lightning seems to have struck twice eh?

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