Details of Obama, Senate immigration proposals

Jan 29, 2013 Full story: Philly.com 11

President Barack Obama endorsed a framework for immigration reform Tuesday that largely mirrored one unveiled a day earlier by a bipartisan group of senators , with a few important differences.

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ronnie

American Fork, UT

#1 Jan 29, 2013
The two best recommendations by both Senate and Obama, non-forgeable documents. Fines for Employers hiring illegals. Hell, most the Casino's across this Country will be fined as well as Burger King, McDonalds and Walmart...It all sounds good, but they will ALL STALL in the house, if the border isn't controlled. Completely.

Since: Jun 11

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#2 Jan 29, 2013
No such thing as non-forgeable docs. With any amnesty plan, the fraud will be immense like it was in 1986.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#3 Jan 29, 2013
Every proposal in the plans make it easier on illegals!!! No mention of ending birthright citizenship or not letting illegals use our schools and hospitals.

More criminal coddling.
Magadala

Lakebay, WA

#4 Jan 30, 2013
We owe these people NOTHING!!! We don't need to pass anything, just enforce what we have. US immigration laws are not unlike any other.

It's the whiners who expect special privileges because they feel entitled...

Magadala

Lakebay, WA

#5 Jan 30, 2013
ronnie wrote:
The two best recommendations by both Senate and Obama, non-forgeable documents. Fines for Employers hiring illegals. Hell, most the Casino's across this Country will be fined as well as Burger King, McDonalds and Walmart...It all sounds good, but they will ALL STALL in the house, if the border isn't controlled. Completely.
Yeah, they always throw in border security and enforcement and never do it!!!!
PLEEZE! Write call, email, yell, scream, curse!!! Do not let another anything go! Join Numbersusa.com Most of all, DO SOMETHING, the terrorist are trying to seize our government!!!
Magadala

Lakebay, WA

#6 Jan 30, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Every proposal in the plans make it easier on illegals!!! No mention of ending birthright citizenship or not letting illegals use our schools and hospitals.
More criminal coddling.
...or not being eligile for welfare. Or holding them accountable for fraud and identity theft since that is the #1 consumer complaint for AMERICANS!!!

Oh, has anyone gotten it! Imagine what 11 million green card holders will do to our already sick state of affairs with jobs. Oh, silly me, they will only do the jobs we won't do...WRONG!!! This turns them loose on the whole enchillada!

Blatant disregard for the Americans he swore to protect and defend!
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#7 Jan 30, 2013
Magadala wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, they always throw in border security and enforcement and never do it!!!!
PLEEZE! Write call, email, yell, scream, curse!!! Do not let another anything go! Join Numbersusa.com Most of all, DO SOMETHING, the terrorist are trying to seize our government!!!
I have joined number's USA. I agree that trusting this Government is a pitiful waste but I know representatives in Utah that simply will not allow another 86 Amnesty. If they don't do this right, the American people should march on Washington and create pure hell for those Politicians that have their pocket's stuffed by big business. Because it's big business that has brought these damn criminals in by the droves. Americans seem to be tired of the wimp's in Washington, and by God, they better get it right this time.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#8 Jan 30, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Every proposal in the plans make it easier on illegals!!! No mention of ending birthright citizenship or not letting illegals use our schools and hospitals.
More criminal coddling.
Birth Right Citizenship is not an Immigration Policy, that's a Constitutional Guarantee.
DAVID63

Tacoma, WA

#9 Jan 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Birth Right Citizenship is not an Immigration Policy, that's a Constitutional Guarantee.
The 14th limited Birth right citizenship,and it excluded the children of Foreign Visitors,Foreign Diplomats,which excludes the children of Illegal aliens.Native Americans were also excluded until 1924.Now,try to learn the facts.

“Legals against Illegals!”

Since: Dec 11

Willing to stand and Fight!

#11 Feb 1, 2013
exclude provisional or probationary terms.

Sign petitions to enforce immigration laws,impeach Obama and more!

http://americanmove.webs.com/thepage.htm
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#12 Feb 1, 2013
DAVID63 wrote:
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The 14th limited Birth right citizenship,and it excluded the children of Foreign Visitors,Foreign Diplomats,which excludes the children of Illegal aliens.Native Americans were also excluded until 1924.Now,try to learn the facts.
Actually, Native American are citizens of their perspective Tribal Nations, and as such are privileged to the same considerations and rights of American Citizens.

On a Native American's Passport he/she has the option of using either their Tribe or United States as their Nationality, before 1924, Native Americans were discriminated against, much like all Minorities in America.

AMENDMENT XIV

SECTION 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That doesn't look as if or say there is a limit and excludes Foreigner's who have children in America or within our jurisdiction from Birth right Citizenship.

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