Black Conservatives Speak out on Ille...

Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

There are 4035 comments on the Breitbart.com story from Jun 5, 2013, titled Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration. In it, Breitbart.com reports that:

The people pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform don't want you to hear a diversity of voices on the topic, hoping instead to crush debate as they ram their legislation through Congress.

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Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1272 Jun 24, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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That ANYONE was hung for trying to feed their families when the BIA (a joke from its inception) and others stole what was intended for the NAs, forcing the NAs hand, is a crime I will never excuse.
We're finished here, LTE. My name is neither Geronimo nor Cochise. You may find yourself charming and witty but I do not. Patronising and condescending is exactly what you are and I prefer to deal with people who don't take that approach.
And here I thought we were bonding. I am sort of glad you are mad, I was running out of Indian chief names (off the top of my head).
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The Bureau of Indian Affairs was always a back water federal department and notorious for it's poor operation. I think George W. Bush started an overhaul but I have no idea how far that has gotten.
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My point was Lincoln wasn't out to get the American Indian, so the website you posted is invalid. That site is politically/racially biased history.

Sinajuavi

Since: Nov 11

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#1273 Jun 24, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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I'm sure there is some US corporate machinations in their economy. That is too be expected and the more so because the mexican people are often more easily corrupted and manipulated than others. But you can not realisticly blame it all on the US. What about all the rich land owners in Mexico who once dominated everything under a quasi feudalistic type system? Did thye not play a major hand in thwarting the aims of the revolucion? and did they not have a vested interest in doing so? It seems your arguments are always one sided. Blame everything on us Americans. We are somehow to blame for everything.
The Mexican people are not ALL some dumb helpless puppets(too many are corrupt though). Do you even realize the racist implications behind your claims?
You claim Mexicans are more easily corrupted and manipulated than others... then you call ME racist??? LOL!!!

USA CORPORATIONS and the USA GOVT are deep in this mess, boy, and for you to continue to ignore them while blaming the Mexican PEOPLE only reveals what a racist piece of subhuman scum you really are.

Go get dragged by a bus.

Sinajuavi

Since: Nov 11

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#1274 Jun 24, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I keep the arguments simple because the baseline thinking can be so simplistic.
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Corporations can be a plus as modern technology requires huge amounts of capital. The 1% can supply that capital.
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On the other hand, free trade agreements have worked against Americans of all kinds (in the western hemisphere sense).
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Instead of Barack Obama doing another one of his tiresome apology tours in Mexico, he SHOULD have been pushing the Mexican government to institute greater social reforms.
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This push/lean on,(imperialist approach, plug your favorite term here) could have been coupled with development funds for the poor of central America.
This would have served two purposes. First, it's a safe assumption most of these people would rather not leave their homelands and villages unless they had to. If money was made available, micro loan NGO's could be set up to help these people form small businesses and buy farmland.
Second, this would result in less people leaving, they would feel more invested in their societies creating social stability and potentially opening up new markets for American industry.
Oh now it's Obama's fault. If he won't stand up to corporate power, do you think perhaps that is because of the exercise of that same corporate power, you flaming moron?

“We have the best Congress money can buy.”---Will Rogers.

And who's doing the buying, you blithering fool?

Since: Sep 07

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#1275 Jun 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Oh now it's Obama's fault. If he won't stand up to corporate power, do you think perhaps that is because of the exercise of that same corporate power, you flaming moron?
“We have the best Congress money can buy.”---Will Rogers.
And who's doing the buying, you blithering fool?
the issue being discussed here is illegal immigration.

there is no justification for it. we the people of the usa are not responsible for foreigners from anywhere.

so, then, you guys go into the blame game? and even blaming the current affairs on things that happened hundreds of years ago?

honestly, get off the drugs already.

Sinajuavi

Since: Nov 11

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#1276 Jun 24, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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the issue being discussed here is illegal immigration.
there is no justification for it. we the people of the usa are not responsible for foreigners from anywhere.
so, then, you guys go into the blame game? and even blaming the current affairs on things that happened hundreds of years ago?
honestly, get off the drugs already.
Don't smartass me, racist scum.

It is happening now. Corporate control. Corporate benefit.

LOL at how consistently you racists ignore this. You simply cannot address it... just go on demonizing the immgirants as if they're responsible for the whole mess...

...though they have NO power over the situation.

Your stupid as well as evil.

Since: Feb 11

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#1277 Jun 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You claim Mexicans are more easily corrupted and manipulated than others... then you call ME racist??? LOL!!!
USA CORPORATIONS and the USA GOVT are deep in this mess, boy, and for you to continue to ignore them while blaming the Mexican PEOPLE only reveals what a racist piece of subhuman scum you really are.
Go get dragged by a bus.
Yeah I call you a racist and a mental dullard.

"Mexico has long been rife with corruption, which ranges from the small bribes that motorists pay traffic officers to the suitcases of cash that drug traffickers have delivered to law enforcement authorities. Ordinary Mexicans routinely pay bribes to get telephone service, loans and even parking spaces.
"A study this year by Transparency Mexico found that Mexicans paid about $2.6 billion in bribes in 2007, or more than $24 each on average!"

Yeah, blame that on the US corporations and and our government, you lying sack of shit!

Sinajuavi

Since: Nov 11

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#1278 Jun 24, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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Yeah I call you a racist and a mental dullard.
"Mexico has long been rife with corruption, which ranges from the small bribes that motorists pay traffic officers to the suitcases of cash that drug traffickers have delivered to law enforcement authorities. Ordinary Mexicans routinely pay bribes to get telephone service, loans and even parking spaces.
"A study this year by Transparency Mexico found that Mexicans paid about $2.6 billion in bribes in 2007, or more than $24 each on average!"
Yeah, blame that on the US corporations and and our government, you lying sack of shit!
Still in denial, cowardly traitorous smartass-boy?

Corruption? LOL... like our bought-and-sold corporate-slave Congress?

You ignore USA corporate involvement in Mexico. Does that involve “corruption” since Mexico's “leaders” are consistently bought off?

Try some consistency, boy. You're bound and determined to blame the Mexican people for crap whose root cause is found in the USA.

You lying piece of bigoted sociopathic offal.

Let's do lunch.

Sinajuavi

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#1279 Jun 24, 2013
Y'all notice that the anti-immigrant scum in here didn't take long before they were attacking and insulting black people as well as Native Americans?

I have always maintained that the anti-immigrant people are motivated by RACISM and this thread confirms it yet again.

Demeaning Mexico, spewing stereotypes and lies... these freaks are RACISTS through and through.

High statistical correlation between the following is undeniable:

anti-immigrant sentiment
connedservativism
GOP apologetics
racism

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1280 Jun 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Still in denial, cowardly traitorous smartass-boy?
Corruption? LOL... like our bought-and-sold corporate-slave Congress?
You ignore USA corporate involvement in Mexico. Does that involve “corruption” since Mexico's “leaders” are consistently bought off?
Try some consistency, boy. You're bound and determined to blame the Mexican people for crap whose root cause is found in the USA.
You lying piece of bigoted sociopathic offal.
Let's do lunch.
"Mexico has long been rife with corruption, which ranges from the small bribes that motorists pay traffic officers to the suitcases of cash that drug traffickers have delivered to law enforcement authorities. Ordinary Mexicans routinely pay bribes to get telephone service, loans and even parking spaces.
"A study this year by Transparency Mexico found that Mexicans paid about $2.6 billion in bribes in 2007, or more than $24 each on average!"
Bribery and corruption in Mexico costs the economy up to $114 Billion a year. The economic impact from corruption is equal to 10 percent of the country’s GDP.

Between 1970 and 2010, Mexico lost an estimated $872 Billion to corruption, tax evasion and other types of black market activities.

Source: Randal C. Archibald,“Even as It Hurts Mexican Economy, Bribery Is Taken in Stride,” New York Times, April 23, 2012."

With corruption like that which reflects the culture of the people, is there any need to look elsewhere for Mexico's economic woes??

And you would have us totally ignore this??
otherway

Howell, MI

#1281 Jun 24, 2013
After a while i realize that we're so wealthy that we'd be sending ourselves to hell by not letting these immigrants come up and join us..

because it would be like some leaving the poor people at the gate to die..

it don't matter what race it is.. we gots mon ey they need money if we don't help em god is gonna beat our Asses..

he's gonna beat white people's Asse stoo except poor stuffering diening ones in

poor European countries.. and there's poor Ass African ones too.. so then we have no race excuse when he send us into some lakes of fire..

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1282 Jun 24, 2013
otherway wrote:
After a while i realize that we're so wealthy that we'd be sending ourselves to hell by not letting these immigrants come up and join us..
because it would be like some leaving the poor people at the gate to die..
it don't matter what race it is.. we gots mon ey they need money if we don't help em god is gonna beat our Asses..
he's gonna beat white people's Asse stoo except poor stuffering diening ones in
poor European countries.. and there's poor Ass African ones too.. so then we have no race excuse when he send us into some lakes of fire..
There are ways of helping them. I do think the Guest worker Program&#8206; is a good idea.

BTW, lay off the booze man!

Since: Sep 07

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#1283 Jun 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Don't smartass me, racist scum.
It is happening now. Corporate control. Corporate benefit.
LOL at how consistently you racists ignore this. You simply cannot address it... just go on demonizing the immgirants as if they're responsible for the whole mess...
...though they have NO power over the situation.
Your stupid as well as evil.
quote, "NO power over the situation."?????

they freaking walked across the border ILLEGALLY, you dumbass POS.

so, if I chop your freaking head off your shoulders, it's not my fault because the devil made me do it? is that how it works?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#1284 Jun 24, 2013
otherway wrote:
After a while i realize that we're so wealthy that we'd be sending ourselves to hell by not letting these immigrants come up and join us..
because it would be like some leaving the poor people at the gate to die..
it don't matter what race it is.. we gots mon ey they need money if we don't help em god is gonna beat our Asses..
he's gonna beat white people's Asse stoo except poor stuffering diening ones in
poor European countries.. and there's poor Ass African ones too.. so then we have no race excuse when he send us into some lakes of fire..
I rather let "their" starving children go to hell before I will let "my" starving children do so.

that's what you call - commonsense.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1285 Jun 24, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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BTW, lay off the booze man!
Please be a little more respectful of Hillary Clinton's running mate.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1286 Jun 24, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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High statistical correlation between the following is undeniable:
anti-immigrant sentiment
connedservativism
GOP apologetics
racism
You forgot:
Demeaning to women
Class superiority

I'd like to think I can do it all, that I offer the whole menu.
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#1287 Jun 24, 2013
Laos Returns Refugees to North Korea

SEOUL—Laos handed over a group of North Korean refugees to Pyongyang this week and rejected criticism it had endangered their lives, saying South Korea was informed of the detentions but made no attempt to help, an assertion a South Korean official disputed.

News of the repatriation of the North Koreans between the ages of 15 and 23 has garnered national attention in South Korea. It's thought to be the first time Laos—a common transit point for North Koreans fleeing their homeland via China—has handed over defectors to agents from the North.

In previous instances, escapees caught inside Laos were moved to a third country, often Thailand, to be sent to Seoul under an unofficial agreement between Laos and South Korea, a former South Korean diplomat to Laos said.

Human-rights activists working for North Korean defectors say the swift repatriation is unusual, suggesting North Korea has been more assertive in recovering defectors since the dictator Kim Jong Un came to power in late 2011.

Officials from the Southeast Asian nation, where the North Koreans were detained on May 10, said both the North Korean and South Korean embassies in the capital Vientiane were informed but only the North moved to take the group. Laotian officials said the refugees didn't ask to be sent to South Korea.

South Korea has declined to comment officially on the case, but a senior official challenged the Laotian account on Thursday. "South Korea made constant requests to visit the North Korean refugees, to have them released to us and to protect them from forced extradition," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The North Korean defectors are assumed to have been repatriated earlier this week via China, according to the South Korean Foreign Ministry, and will likely face interrogation. Punishment for defectors that have had contact with South Koreans and religious groups is widely considered to be more severe, with punishments including hard labor, prison camp and even execution, according to scholars and human-rights activists.

The refugees were arrested close to the Chinese border together with South Korean guides. They were moved to a detention center in Vientiane days later, Laotian Foreign Ministry officials said.

Because the nine North Koreans and the two South Koreans crossed the Sino-Laotian border without passing an immigration checkpoint, authorities treated them as illegal immigrants, Laotian officials said. Both North and South Korean embassies were notified of the refugees once their identities were revealed, and at the North's request, the nine were released into its custody, according to the ministry's account.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...

Brouhahahahahaha!!!

Refugees? Riiiight. Talk about ILLEGALS. Hypocrites! The MEKONG is wider than the Rio Grande!

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1288 Jun 24, 2013
Mayela wrote:
Laos Returns Refugees to North Korea
SEOUL—Laos handed over a group of North Korean refugees to Pyongyang this week and rejected criticism it had endangered their lives, saying South Korea was informed of the detentions but made no attempt to help, an assertion a South Korean official disputed.
News of the repatriation of the North Koreans between the ages of 15 and 23 has garnered national attention in South Korea. It's thought to be the first time Laos—a common transit point for North Koreans fleeing their homeland via China—has handed over defectors to agents from the North.
In previous instances, escapees caught inside Laos were moved to a third country, often Thailand, to be sent to Seoul under an unofficial agreement between Laos and South Korea, a former South Korean diplomat to Laos said.
Human-rights activists working for North Korean defectors say the swift repatriation is unusual, suggesting North Korea has been more assertive in recovering defectors since the dictator Kim Jong Un came to power in late 2011.
Officials from the Southeast Asian nation, where the North Koreans were detained on May 10, said both the North Korean and South Korean embassies in the capital Vientiane were informed but only the North moved to take the group. Laotian officials said the refugees didn't ask to be sent to South Korea.
South Korea has declined to comment officially on the case, but a senior official challenged the Laotian account on Thursday. "South Korea made constant requests to visit the North Korean refugees, to have them released to us and to protect them from forced extradition," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The North Korean defectors are assumed to have been repatriated earlier this week via China, according to the South Korean Foreign Ministry, and will likely face interrogation. Punishment for defectors that have had contact with South Koreans and religious groups is widely considered to be more severe, with punishments including hard labor, prison camp and even execution, according to scholars and human-rights activists.
The refugees were arrested close to the Chinese border together with South Korean guides. They were moved to a detention center in Vientiane days later, Laotian Foreign Ministry officials said.
Because the nine North Koreans and the two South Koreans crossed the Sino-Laotian border without passing an immigration checkpoint, authorities treated them as illegal immigrants, Laotian officials said. Both North and South Korean embassies were notified of the refugees once their identities were revealed, and at the North's request, the nine were released into its custody, according to the ministry's account.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...
Brouhahahahahaha!!!
Refugees? Riiiight. Talk about ILLEGALS. Hypocrites! The MEKONG is wider than the Rio Grande!
China pays a fee to those who capture escapees from North Korea. Loas is now considered to be in China's orbit.
Facts Only

Phoenix, AZ

#1289 Jun 24, 2013
iamcuriousnow wrote:
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probably the only three in the country
The article doesn't state "all three". Even so, they aren't the only ones concerned. Three members of the U.S.Com mission on Civil Rights wrote to the Congressional Black Caucus about their findings (which are echoed by the latest CBO report that S. 744 results in higher unemployment and lower wages for the next 10 years). This bill hurts the working poor, lower middle class and poor Americans the most. Why should they bear all the costs and consequences while the foreign nationals here illegally get all the rewards?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/351845/w...
"The job market in Washington, D.C., may be sparkling, but it’s no secret that the employment picture for low-skilled Americans is abysmal. The national unemployment rate has been above 7.5 percent for four and a half years and millions have dropped out of the workforce entirely. Among those without a high-school diploma, the unemployment rate is 11.1 percent, and for blacks without a high-school diploma, it’s more than 24 percent. The labor-force participation rate is at historic lows and long-term unemployment is the worst since the Great Depression. The workweek is shrinking, as well as wage rates. Barely one in two black males has a full-time job. A record 48 million people are on food stamps.

Several weeks ago, my colleagues on the U.S.Com mission on Civil Rights, Abigail Thernstrom and Gail Heriot, and I sent a letter to President Obama and the members of the Congressional Black Caucus detailing the commission’s findings on the impact of illegal immigration on low-skilled workers — particularly black males. Evidence adduced before the commission shows that illegal immigrants have displaced large numbers of black workers in industry sectors with historically high concentrations of black employees. The evidence shows that immigration accounts for 40 percent of the 18-percentage-point decline in black employment rates over the last several decades. That’s hundreds of thousands of blacks thrown out of work, hundreds of thousands who can’t support families without taxpayer assistance.

Of course, the impact isn’t limited to blacks, nor is it limited to employment rates. Illegal immigration also drives down wage rates. For example, an economist for the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta estimated that as a result of the growth of undocumented workers, the annual earnings of documented workers — regardless of race – in Georgia in 2007 were $960 lower than in 2000. In the hospitality industry the decline was $1,520. Why should American workers suffer any decline in wages because of illegal immigration?"

Worse yet, in 2007 the Congressional Budget Office reported that every foreign national in public schools who isn't fluent in English takes 20-40% more resources to educate than an American child- so they steal an extra large share of resources away from American children (mostly in poorer neighborhoods where budgets are already tight and children do without). http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofil... And those children are disproportionately minority children too. It's not the rich who get clobbered with the burdens of illegal immigration; the Dems and Obama are making sure it's working class Americans who pay the price. Children of working class American families are having their future stolen so the Dems can reward their special interest group made up entirely of dishonest foreign nationals here illegally and the exploitative employers who undermine our social contract, damage our social services, and run their dishonest business models at great expense to our tax base.

Read the CBO report on S.744- the bill drives up unemployment, drives down wages and increases the wealth gap by shoving more people into poverty. Those American children have civil rights too.

Since: Mar 12

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#1290 Jun 24, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Thanks, Sinajuavi. The facts attached to WHY they were hung and HOW they were tried (certainly no due process was attached with a less than 5 minute interview with white soldiers speaking a language most didn't comprehend) means nothing to this poster obviously. The facts attached to the whole incident speak volumes about how fairly the NAs were treated when the prospectors and land grabbers wanted what the NAs had. Every treaty the US made with NA tribes has been violated (if honoured at all). Although my head will never implode (hehehehe), it certainly has a brain capable of pointing people to the truth. That seems to bother this poster who is more than welcome to try to continue to peddle the same thing taught in most US schools. I realise you, as a teacher, have seen how this works. Just try to teach something that isn't on the curriculum and see what happens, eh? I know how that works also as a friend of mine was given an award by Mayor Bloomberg for her outstanding achievements in the classroom and then almost fired by the school's administrative branch for NOT following the 'program'. Imagine how confusing that was. She was almost fired for getting results based on the way she had been taught in France and Israel......anyway......Have a great day........:)
Damn, I am feeling you all on this thread! Hitting them up with the straight, unvarnished and natural truths! You're absolutely correct about the curriculum. Teacher's are never allowed to deviate whether what they're teaching is the truth or not! New information comes in all the time disproving history s it is thought but those making the decisions will not deviate from their course. I have a book come the underground truth about education in this nation. It is a propaganda tool to prepare Americans for work in this system (maxtrix?) and its original intent was that only 10% would go to college (the elite?) and the rest remain peons. Immigrants who came to this country and worked like dogs didn't want that for their children and they sacrificed much so their children wouldn't have the lives they had.

I still remember the difficulty we have getting AA History taught in schools and that curriculum is gone over with a fine tooth comb. It was in the 70s.

Knowledge (true knowledge) is a powerful thing! The truth will definitely set a lot of people free...
Dan Salazar

AOL

#1291 Jun 24, 2013
It is easy to demand that this Bill be DEFEATED. Look what the same mobs have done in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Equador.

Do Americans really want a hopeless Third World Collectivist future?

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