Does Preschool Actually Help Kids Succeed?

Feb 14, 2013 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: www.theatlantic.com

After the State of the Union speech, Head Start is back in the news, along with the controversy over early childhood education.

As predicted, President Obama's State of the Union address contained a wealth of education initiatives, including a new grant program aimed at ensuring high schools turn out 21st century career-ready graduates, and a call for universal preschool for every child. (The Education Week blog has the full breakdown.) The president's plan drew high marks from the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, which partners with community organizations nationwide to improve access to early learning.

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No, involved parents, especially fathers, help kids succeed and we have known this for decades but don't talk about it because it is not part of a government solution.
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Pre-school sounds like a 'nice' idea, but seriously MANY, MANY, MANY school districts are struggling to deal with the children they ALREADY have.

The need for new equipment, books, supplies and providing many with BOTH breakfast AND lunch is already too much of a burden for many communities.

While the word 'GRANT' to run these preschools sounds like magical money, that money has to come from somewhere.

And if there is 'all that money out there' FOR these pre-schools, why has the government been HOLDING IT BACK from the schools that could have been using it all along fund "No Child Left Behind", which never received adequate funding??

Just another bunch of rhetoric that sounds nice, but is unlikely.
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Dr. Bill_phd! need to get back to Obama school or Chuck Hagel take you to middle school;-000

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Eleanor wrote:
Pre-school sounds like a 'nice' idea, but seriously MANY, MANY, MANY school districts are struggling to deal with the children they ALREADY have.
The need for new equipment, books, supplies and providing many with BOTH breakfast AND lunch is already too much of a burden for many communities.
While the word 'GRANT' to run these preschools sounds like magical money, that money has to come from somewhere.
And if there is 'all that money out there' FOR these pre-schools, why has the government been HOLDING IT BACK from the schools that could have been using it all along fund "No Child Left Behind", which never received adequate funding??
Just another bunch of rhetoric that sounds nice, but is unlikely.
Pre-school is more than a nice sounding idea, it will more than pay for itself.
But you are right, we cannot afford the start-up cost, even to save more money in the long run.
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YES!!!!!
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Mr_Bill wrote:
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Pre-school is more than a nice sounding idea, it will more than pay for itself.
But you are right, we cannot afford the start-up cost, even to save more money in the long run.
We can't afford the health care for our aging baby boomer generation why are we talking about expanding new programs when we can't pay for the ones we have.
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Statistic UNFORTUNATELY have shown that ANY gains by participants are GONE after 3rd grade.

It's the family, it's the home environment that is the key, not government programs.

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Mr_Bill wrote:
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Pre-school is more than a nice sounding idea, it will more than pay for itself.
But you are right, we cannot afford the start-up cost, even to save more money in the long run.
We could if we ended the wars and shut down the imperialistic bases we have over seas.

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No, involved parents, especially fathers, help kids succeed and we have known this for decades but don't talk about it because it is not part of a government solution.
^this.

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I look at it this way. How has the Department of Education done in regards to the education level of students globally since their establishment in 1979?

They have done horribly. They are a drain of money, the global rankings for the US has declined.

These kids that are graduating are idiots. They can not even look at a map and tell you where a specific country is located.

I have learned more in 3 years of self education in history, philosophy and political sciences than I ever learned in school.
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Kahoki wrote:
I look at it this way. How has the Department of Education done in regards to the education level of students globally since their establishment in 1979?
They have done horribly. They are a drain of money, the global rankings for the US has declined.
These kids that are graduating are idiots. They can not even look at a map and tell you where a specific country is located.
I have learned more in 3 years of self education in history, philosophy and political sciences than I ever learned in school.
just go seek King #23!!!;-00000r get some eggroll for lunch!;)
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Kahoki wrote:
I look at it this way. How has the Department of Education done in regards to the education level of students globally since their establishment in 1979?
They have done horribly. They are a drain of money, the global rankings for the US has declined.
These kids that are graduating are idiots. They can not even look at a map and tell you where a specific country is located.
I have learned more in 3 years of self education in history, philosophy and political sciences than I ever learned in school.
You are dead on there, I did not have the benefit of of a federal department of education and my parents had even less government involvement in their education. We managed just fine and so could today's kids. The answers are in the classroom with the teachers not with the parents at home not in the layers of administration and federal programs.
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You are dead on there, I did not have the benefit of of a federal department of education and my parents had even less government involvement in their education. We managed just fine and so could today's kids. The answers are in the classroom with the teachers not with the parents at home not in the layers of administration and federal programs.
Rob! please take Kohoki to the elementeary or middle school again!;-00h, he enjoy 2much cheerleader during high school time!!;-0
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We can't afford the health care for our aging baby boomer generation why are we talking about expanding new programs when we can't pay for the ones we have.
Expanding new programs when we can't pay for the ones we have??

Say it's not so !! More empty promises??

From Obama??

Is there ANYONE who is surprised?? <LOL>

No, but there are still some who still BELIEVE .... <snicker>
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Public pre-schools are indoctrination centers for the very young - sorta like Hitler's Germany.
Grade schools are a continuation thereof.

Children are brainwashed to accept socialism,
like Hitler's Germany.

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Robert wrote:
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We can't afford the health care for our aging baby boomer generation why are we talking about expanding new programs when we can't pay for the ones we have.
No, that we can afford, because eventually we will have to go to a single-payer plan, or put old people out in the woods to die.

The expenses are driven by insurance company greed, which will be regulaterd in 2014.

The extra costs are built in by the GOP in congress to pad their pals.
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No, that we can afford, because eventually we will have to go to a single-payer plan, or put old people out in the woods to die.
The expenses are driven by insurance company greed, which will be regulaterd in 2014.
The extra costs are built in by the GOP in congress to pad their pals.
I believe that like I believe my insurance would go down after obamacare like obama said it would. Of course it went up not down, we won't have a single payer system or it won't be cheaper and they will put me in the woods anyway. And on top of that because of all of the trillions he is adding to the debt the math will change anyway. It once was the military was the largest contributor of the debt, then medicare and medicaid takes over as the driver of the debt, but according to the projections that is only temporary, the next thing to take over will be servicing interest on the national debt. Once we reach a certain point it will take off like a rocket leaving only one way out. We will inflate our way out of debt which will once more hit the elderly hardest. Ironic how that I have taken steps to get by in my old age but that the government by it's incompetence at running a program and promising more than it can provide is going to not only wreck the programs for me but also wreck the safety net I built as well.

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I believe that like I believe my insurance would go down after obamacare like obama said it would. Of course it went up not down, we won't have a single payer system or it won't be cheaper and they will put me in the woods anyway. And on top of that because of all of the trillions he is adding to the debt the math will change anyway. It once was the military was the largest contributor of the debt, then medicare and medicaid takes over as the driver of the debt, but according to the projections that is only temporary, the next thing to take over will be servicing interest on the national debt. Once we reach a certain point it will take off like a rocket leaving only one way out. We will inflate our way out of debt which will once more hit the elderly hardest. Ironic how that I have taken steps to get by in my old age but that the government by it's incompetence at running a program and promising more than it can provide is going to not only wreck the programs for me but also wreck the safety net I built as well.
We are still under the 'old way.'

"Obamacare" will truly start in 20014. We see only the fringe now, liike no dropping coverage because of illness.

The combination of profit limiting for the insurers; and forcing the freeloaders to pay up can only drive costs to we insured down. Why the pessamism?

If you are so fearful for your old age, invest in a nursing home. Far better than annuities. They won't mistreat the 'boss.'
(Plus, you can BANG medicare and medicaid.)

So, eat, drink, and be merry; St Patrick's Day is just around the corner...
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We are still under the 'old way.'
"Obamacare" will truly start in 20014. We see only the fringe now, liike no dropping coverage because of illness.
The combination of profit limiting for the insurers; and forcing the freeloaders to pay up can only drive costs to we insured down. Why the pessamism?
If you are so fearful for your old age, invest in a nursing home. Far better than annuities. They won't mistreat the 'boss.'
(Plus, you can BANG medicare and medicaid.)
So, eat, drink, and be merry; St Patrick's Day is just around the corner...
I have done the math is why I am fearful, my only hope is to be healthy but that won't stop the treasury drain, all these over weight baby boomers will have diabetes and all kinds of health complications. We should have been paying more than we did for medicare so there would be excess to invest and of course congress would have to have kept their hands off but that would have never have happened, that is why the government should not be trusted with out programs, they should have been privatized then we would not be facing a medicare shortfall.

Profits make the world go round. Cute to see that you have such faith in the community organizer, too bad we can't bet on it. Insurance will not go down like he said, free loaders will still free load I have already heard them talking.

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Robert wrote:
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I have done the math is why I am fearful, my only hope is to be healthy but that won't stop the treasury drain, all these over weight baby boomers will have diabetes and all kinds of health complications. We should have been paying more than we did for medicare so there would be excess to invest and of course congress would have to have kept their hands off but that would have never have happened, that is why the government should not be trusted with out programs, they should have been privatized then we would not be facing a medicare shortfall.
Profits make the world go round. Cute to see that you have such faith in the community organizer, too bad we can't bet on it. Insurance will not go down like he said, free loaders will still free load I have already heard them talking.
What little faith I have in Obama, I have far less in the greedy bastards who run our large corporations.
Left to them, the ublic health and retirement funding would go, rather to BOOST THE OUTLANDISH MONEY THEY ALREADY PAY THEMSELVES, FROM 30 MILLONs TO SIXTY MILLION.

THAT YOU TRUST THESE ROBBERS ISN'T CUTE, it is sad.

Profits make things happen; when strictly reglated, but they hardly 'make the world go 'round.'

Regulated Capitalism IS THE MOST EFFICIENT way we've found to make money, but it is hardly foolproof, as only fools could believe.

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