Health insurance markets open; succes...

Health insurance markets open; success to be seen

There are 173 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Oct 1, 2013, titled Health insurance markets open; success to be seen. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Millions of Americans will be able to shop for the first time Tuesday on the insurance marketplaces that are at the heart of President Barack Obama's health care reforms, entering a world that is supposed to simplify the mysteries of health coverage but could end up making it even more confusing, at least initially.

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#173 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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The people covered by Medicaid are probably not the ones jamming into the emergency room.
People jamming into emergency wards are usually bleeding or limping.

What a shame it is you have always had someone provide for you.

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#174 Oct 8, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
Choices/options will help the free market.
Dozens of choices here, darling.

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#175 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Where is the incentive for poor folks to buy health insurance when they KNOW they can call an ambulance and get a free ride AND free treatment in the Emergency Room?
What planet are you on?

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#176 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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You really do need to understand the Emergency Treatment & Active Labor Act of 1985. PURCHASE health insurance, and stop abusing the emergency system.
You really needs to stop pretending poor people just show up at the emergency room when they are sick.

And you really got to stop pretending the money for this when they do falls from the skill.

You really need to experience the death of one of your children from a infected tooth that was treated too late.

You really need to stop pretending that you haven't been given health care you have had by others.

Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.

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#177 Oct 8, 2013
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Eleanor

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#178 Oct 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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People jamming into emergency wards are usually bleeding or limping.
What a shame it is you have always had someone provide for you.
Shame on you for not being able to accept the fact that a woman can be self-sufficient. I am not one of those people who has to be 'provided for'.(and for you to think otherwise is clearly unfortunate).

At any rate, I have seen Chicago's Cook County Emergency Room. They are not all bleeding. They are not all limping. And there are a WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, who are willing to wait twelve hours or MORE be seen by a doctor.

There are people who arrive in an ambulances and are then escorted to SIT in a waiting room for hours before being attended to.

This isn't a TV show. It is a reality for many people.

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#179 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Shame on you for not being able to accept the fact that a woman can be self-sufficient.
Shame on you for pretending you have been self-proficient.

You can't remember your own narrative, MuffinTop?

PS: one in four women do not have insurance. It goes up for single women with children.

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#180 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
At any rate, I have seen Chicago's Cook County Emergency Room. They are not all bleeding. They are not all limping.
I didn't say they all were limping or bleeding.

Why do you suppose they were there, Shug? The wanted to read old issues of People magazine?

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#181 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
This isn't a TV show. It is a reality for many people.
Right.

And you think that making sick and ill and bleeding people wait in an emergency room twelve hours helps your case for insisting poor people don't need insurance?
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#183 Oct 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Right.
And you think that making sick and ill and bleeding people wait in an emergency room twelve hours helps your case for insisting poor people don't need insurance?
Everybody needs insurance.

Not everyone can afford it and MANY will not be able to afford it even with Obamacare. For them, their choice to use the Emergency Room will stay the same.

Even WITH subsidies, many families will be unable to come up with premiums, the co-pays and deductibles required to obtain healthcare.

Some middle-class families who carry a large amount of debt, will also be without insurance, for the same reasons.

Those who don't qualify for subsidies will be caught between choosing to save for college or pay for insurance.

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#184 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Everybody needs insurance.
Not everyone can afford it and MANY will not be able to afford it even with Obamacare. For them, their choice to use the Emergency Room will stay the same.
Even WITH subsidies, many families will be unable to come up with premiums, the co-pays and deductibles required to obtain healthcare.
Some middle-class families who carry a large amount of debt, will also be without insurance, for the same reasons.
Those who don't qualify for subsidies will be caught between choosing to save for college or pay for insurance.
very, very f will not be able to afford it, the subsidies go right towards the payment of the policy and the copays, if any will be far less than the bill would have been.

no matter how you try to spin it, it should be a far more efective way of covering US citizens with health care than our current system of doing it through the ER rooms, as you have pointed out is highly inefficient.

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#185 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Everybody needs insurance.
Not everyone can afford it and MANY will not be able to afford it even with Obamacare. For them, their choice to use the Emergency Room will stay the same.
Nope.

Child is sick; mother can take to walk in clinic and show card.

Sooner rather than emergency room visit.

Person can go to insurance company with asthma and cannot be rejected.

Person can have annual check ups.

ETC.

Stuff you've taken for "granite".

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#186 Oct 8, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
Even WITH subsidies, many families will be unable to come up with premiums
Opposed to the millions who can't do it now.

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