White House memo challenges EPA finding on warming

An Environmental Protection Agency proposal that could lead to regulating the gases blamed for global warming will prove costly for factories, small businesses and other institutions, according to a White House document.

[Really]

CAP and RAPE?

That is what it really means.

[Earthling]

Someone has to challenge the idea of sending the western world back to the Dark Ages!!!

[No One Important]

Welcome to the stupidity of democrats.

You voted for them...you got 'em.

Next election, get rid of EVERY single democrat you possibly can. From your City councils to your park districts.

Send them all home. Clean the benches.

Send a message....go home and grow up.

[Jim Hayden]

"I have said over and over, as has the president, that we do understand that there are costs to the economy of addressing global warming emissions, and that the best way to address them is through a gradual move to a market-based program like cap and trade," Jackson said.

Every country that has converted to a "Green Economy" has experienced that for every "Green Job" created they have lost 2 regular jobs. That means that we are looking at 2/3 of our work force unable to find gainful employment and being provided for by the remaining 1/3.

Then there are the repercussions for the 13 TRILLION dollars of worthless paper that is currently being dumped into our economy.

I was listening to the evening news last night and the reporters couldn't understand why gas prices are on the rise again considering that we have a gas surplus and none of the oil refineries have been closed and are operating at full capacity.

Betwqeen 1971 when the Gold Standard was eliminated and 2008 the government dumped a little over 83 BILLION dollars in worthless paper into the economy. We are seeing the end result every time we buy anything. In 1970 I paid 25 cents for a gallon of gas. Today a gallon of gas costs $2.25 a gallon. That is a 1,000% increase in just the cost of gas with a little over 83 BILLION dollars in worthless paper dumped into our economy.

Now just try to imagine what 13 TRILLION dollars in worthless paper dumped into our economy is going to do to prices and to the job market.

PROUD member of President Soetoro's Domestic Terrorist List.

[Earthling]

Jim Hayden, I go back a long way and can remember when gasoline cost almost nothing in the UK by today's standards, but I also realise that I can afford to buy more gasoline now than I could in 1960.
Western people alive today, can 'mostly' all afford to buy more than we could then.
Back then, we had chicken once a year at Christmas, now we can afford to eat it every day if we want to!

There is no comparison between now and then, otherwise we'd still be driving horses and carts, winding up gramophones, using newspaper or leaves to wipe our bums and hunting with spears etc.

[Jim Hayden]

Earthling wrote:

Jim Hayden, I go back a long way and can remember when gasoline cost almost nothing in the UK by today's standards, but I also realise that I can afford to buy more gasoline now than I could in 1960.
Western people alive today, can 'mostly' all afford to buy more than we could then.
Back then, we had chicken once a year at Christmas, now we can afford to eat it every day if we want to!
There is no comparison between now and then, otherwise we'd still be driving horses and carts, winding up gramophones, using newspaper or leaves to wipe our bums and hunting with spears etc.

I have no idea what life was like back there in Europe. All I know is how things were here.

Over the past 30 years we have been paying a lot more money for a lot less of what we buy. It is called inflation.

Back when we had the Gold Standard our individual buying power was 10 times stronger than it is today. Yes we are earning more money but it is taking a whole lot more of our money to buy the exact same stuff we use to buy for say 10 cents. Today that candy bar costs us nearly a dollar and it is nearly 1/3 as big. A pound of coffee use to cost me 85 cents a pound today I am paying nearly $3.00 for 13 ounces. And it is only getting worse. 6 months ago I was paying $8.95 for a 20 pound bag of cat food. Today I am paying 11.95 for a 16 pound of the exact same cat food.

Now you should see the impact of the 13 TRILLION dollars in worthless paper that Barry Soetoro and the Congressional Democrats are pouring into our economy before we do. You'll notice it first in the exchange rate and then in the price of American made goods. That is because most of the money has been sent to Europe.

[Earthling]

Inflation is normal everywhere, always has been, but it does seem to have accellerated in recent decades.
I suppose it's a necessary evil, although I've often wondered why costs and prices couldn't be frozen worldwide, like my state pension appears to have been.

[Jim Hayden]

Earthling wrote:

Inflation is normal everywhere, always has been, but it does seem to have accellerated in recent decades.
I suppose it's a necessary evil, although I've often wondered why costs and prices couldn't be frozen worldwide, like my state pension appears to have been.

http://getbackrat.angelfire.com
the graphs at this web site will show you how prior to our removing the Gold Standard from our currency inflation and recession were pretty much stable and it wasn't until after the Gold Standard was removed that we started seeing out of control inflation.

Now I have absolutely no idea what Spain's economy was like but I would not be the lest bit surprised to learn that you have been experiencing the same thins as we have here and for the exact same reasons. The gold Standard prevented government from printing unlimited amount of paper and coins. After all they were only able to maintain an equal amount of money in the economy as they had gold and/or silver to back it up. Once the Gold Standard was removed the nations of the world started producing worthless paper and dumping it into their economies as if it wouldn't have any effects on their economies. Every time there has been a problem they have all simply dumped even more worthless money into their economies. The more worthless paper they dumped into their economy the higher the inflation rate rose. The higher the inflation rate the more worthless paper has been dumped into the economy and now everything is falling apart and what are they doing? Dumping even more worthless paper into the economy which will only force inflation to rise creating even greater problems.

[Earthling]

Jim, I spent my first 49 years living in England and don't remember much inflation until the 60s ended.
The GBP was decimalised on 15th of February 1971 and inflation began to take off immediately as prices were converted.

It happened similarly in much of Europe when the €uro was introduced.
In Spain, goods now often increase by, say 0.10€ centimos, instead of, say 10 pesetas, which equals 0.06€ cents.
Fuel prices in Europe have always been much higher than in the USA and as fuel price controls all other costs, we expect living costs to be expensive in comparison to yours.

Spain is a cheaper country to live in than most of the other major EU countries, but it appears to be catching up with the rest.

[Brian_G]

If President B. Hussein Obama wants a second term, he can't spend his first term destroying the economy.