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Cruz vows to speak till he can't against Obamacare

There are 77 comments on the KEPR CBS 19 story from Sep 24, 2013, titled Cruz vows to speak till he can't against Obamacare. In it, KEPR CBS 19 reports that:

Tea party conservative Sen. Ted Cruz delivered an old-style filibuster over President Barack Obama's health care law into early Wednesday morning, even though fellow Republicans urged him to back down for fear of a possible government shutdown in a week.

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“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#43 Sep 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Single payer will be subject to politics, resource fights and a multitude of other problems.
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If a monopoly is bad in a business environment, why would it be good in the health field environment?
Hey, scooter.. Because healthcare is not a commodity to be traded or sold. healthcare is something that we as citizens of this country should always be concerned with at all times.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#44 Sep 26, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Hey, scooter.. Because healthcare is not a commodity to be traded or sold. healthcare is something that we as citizens of this country should always be concerned with at all times.
Sort of like how we treat Homeland Security?
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Or like how military contracts are handled?

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#45 Sep 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Sort of like how we treat Homeland Security?
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Or like how military contracts are handled?
No.. Healthcare is not the same.. Both of those issues are national security issues.

Health care is a domestic issue. One that we as Americans should be more concerned with the rising costs. How we can bring those costs down and manage those costs and services more effectively.

The market has treated healthcare as a commodity. As a result Americans as a whole are lot less healthy. As compared to any other industrialized nation that has some form of national healthcare system in place.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#46 Sep 27, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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No.. Healthcare is not the same.. Both of those issues are national security issues.
Health care is a domestic issue. One that we as Americans should be more concerned with the rising costs. How we can bring those costs down and manage those costs and services more effectively.
The market has treated healthcare as a commodity. As a result Americans as a whole are lot less healthy. As compared to any other industrialized nation that has some form of national healthcare system in place.
I do not see how ObamaCare fixes much. The Republicans offered a system to provide insurance without the federal government getting involved in every aspect of healthcare.
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If you watched the UK's Prime Minister's Questions and Answers on CSpan, you will see constant bickering and arguing of their National Healthcare System and it's ever growing costs.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#47 Sep 27, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I do not see how ObamaCare fixes much. The Republicans offered a system to provide insurance without the federal government getting involved in every aspect of healthcare.
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If you watched the UK's Prime Minister's Questions and Answers on CSpan, you will see constant bickering and arguing of their National Healthcare System and it's ever growing costs.
While you quote Brittan.. I will point to Germany.. Whom has a healthcare that is as strong today as it was when it was first instituted. What does this tell us. That a national healthcare can and does work.
conservative crapola

Easton, PA

#48 Sep 27, 2013
The Senate restores the ACA.

Now the shutdown is in the hands of boner's teabagging house.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#49 Sep 27, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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While you quote Brittan.. I will point to Germany.. Whom has a healthcare that is as strong today as it was when it was first instituted. What does this tell us. That a national healthcare can and does work.
That is not the model the Democrats want.
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Germany has a growing poverty rate too.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#50 Sep 28, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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That is not the model the Democrats want.
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Germany has a growing poverty rate too.
Which is manageable.. Shhessh you little fools really do not get it.. A national healthcare is here.. All American will eventually be covered. Even Germany the very poor are covered. The German economy is growing. What they did worked for them. Austerity measure that the German government put in place did not even touch the healthcare system.

Get it? The German people made people a priority a head of any company. Something we here in America should be understanding. Even the companies in Germany agreed. As they make having healthy employees a number one concern of their workforce.

Spin in it any way you want. A national healthcare system does and can work. It mean that the citizens of the country have to be willing to work at keeping the healthcare on track. Be willing to do what is necessary to assure that a healthy population will always be a productive one.

I know to much common sense..

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#51 Sep 28, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Which is manageable.. Shhessh you little fools really do not get it.. A national healthcare is here.. All American will eventually be covered. Even Germany the very poor are covered. The German economy is growing. What they did worked for them. Austerity measure that the German government put in place did not even touch the healthcare system.
Get it? The German people made people a priority a head of any company. Something we here in America should be understanding. Even the companies in Germany agreed. As they make having healthy employees a number one concern of their workforce.
Spin in it any way you want. A national healthcare system does and can work. It mean that the citizens of the country have to be willing to work at keeping the healthcare on track. Be willing to do what is necessary to assure that a healthy population will always be a productive one.
I know to much common sense..
Spin? No need to spin. If you have a growing poorer population, you have economic problems.
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None the less, the model desired by the Democrats is not the German model.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#52 Sep 28, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Spin? No need to spin. If you have a growing poorer population, you have economic problems.
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None the less, the model desired by the Democrats is not the German model.
Here lets try some facts shall we..
OECD (2008), Growing Unequal?: Income Distribution and Poverty in OECD Countries
www.oecd.org/els/social/inequality

"Although poverty rates are high, people do not stay poor for long. Only 3% of the population are poor for 3 or more years in
a row, which is only half of the OECD average.
Also, fewer households than in most other countries struggle to purchase basic goods and to have decent housing and other living conditions.

And it ends with this..

The comparative results of the OECD study go up to the year 2005. Very recently, new national income estimates for 2006 and 2007, based on the same data source (DIW,became available. These estimates suggest that income disparities and poverty have continued to increase in 2006 but that (this trend has come to an end in 2007.)"

The () are mine for emphasis.

Again nothing says that it was because of healthcare. It was an economy that every one has been digging their way out of all these years. Again the National healthcare in Germany works. Deal with it.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#53 Sep 28, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Here lets try some facts shall we..
OECD (2008), Growing Unequal?: Income Distribution and Poverty in OECD Countries
www.oecd.org/els/social/inequality
"Although poverty rates are high, people do not stay poor for long. Only 3% of the population are poor for 3 or more years in
a row, which is only half of the OECD average.
Also, fewer households than in most other countries struggle to purchase basic goods and to have decent housing and other living conditions.
And it ends with this..
The comparative results of the OECD study go up to the year 2005. Very recently, new national income estimates for 2006 and 2007, based on the same data source (DIW,became available. These estimates suggest that income disparities and poverty have continued to increase in 2006 but that (this trend has come to an end in 2007.)"
The () are mine for emphasis.
Again nothing says that it was because of healthcare. It was an economy that every one has been digging their way out of all these years. Again the National healthcare in Germany works. Deal with it.
I guess we can posts links all day long to each other.

http://www.inequalitywatch.eu/spip.php...
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This doesn't make ObamaCare any better.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#54 Sep 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I guess we can posts links all day long to each other.
http://www.inequalitywatch.eu/spip.php...
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This doesn't make ObamaCare any better.
Actaull what it does say is theat the german have understood their economy and have made assurances that it will not go under.. Here..
for the World Economy
Reforming Health Care –
The German Experience
IMF Conference
Public Health Care Reforms:
Challenges and Lessons for Advanced and Emerging Europe
Paris, June 21, 2011
http://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2...

So what does this say after all the graph and all the cost is tallied..

A national/universal healthcare is doable..

Which means that what ever happens in the economy as long as people make their national or universal health care one of the top priorities. It will work.

The ACA is here. I believe and all the evidence in spite of the far right and tea party the ACA (Obamacare)is going to work.
Deal with it.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#55 Sep 29, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Actaull what it does say is theat the german have understood their economy and have made assurances that it will not go under.. Here..
for the World Economy
Reforming Health Care –
The German Experience
IMF Conference
Public Health Care Reforms:
Challenges and Lessons for Advanced and Emerging Europe
Paris, June 21, 2011
http://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2...
So what does this say after all the graph and all the cost is tallied..
A national/universal healthcare is doable..
Which means that what ever happens in the economy as long as people make their national or universal health care one of the top priorities. It will work.
The ACA is here. I believe and all the evidence in spite of the far right and tea party the ACA (Obamacare)is going to work.
Deal with it.
You can post links all day and so can I.
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The slow but growing German poverty rate will cause further cutbacks in social services as what has happened in many parts of Europe.
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Deal with it might make you feel smart some how, but it's a shallow response to the badly designed ObamaCare program. One reason Barack likes to fly out to colleges to cry on the shoulders of students instead of people in the business is because he knows he can't b.s. the people involved in healthcare like he can a bunch of college kids.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#56 Sep 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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You can post links all day and so can I.
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The slow but growing German poverty rate will cause further cutbacks in social services as what has happened in many parts of Europe.
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Deal with it might make you feel smart some how, but it's a shallow response to the badly designed ObamaCare program. One reason Barack likes to fly out to colleges to cry on the shoulders of students instead of people in the business is because he knows he can't b.s. the people involved in healthcare like he can a bunch of college kids.
Tap your heels together all you want, Dorothy.. The evidence say otherwise.
Jerkfaced Conservative

Ames, IA

#57 Sep 29, 2013
Far Away wrote:
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Bottom line is, why don't you take your focus off of who is talking and focus on what is being said, i.e., that Øbama-scare is a bad law, an albatross, and will hurt people and our economy in a far greater way than it could possibly help the one's it is supposed to help, and that it will still leave 20-million plus Americans uninsured anyway.
Why is it an Albatros?
How will it hurt people?
Why is it a bad law?
How will the American way of life perish once the Affordable Care Act is enacted?

What is being said by the GOP is mainly horseshit coming directly from a horse's ass.
It is impossible to ignore the messengers. They are some crazy MotherF'ers

Maybe all they say is true and we will all die and the zombie-pocalypse will begin.
Maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass.
Maybe it will work.
All 3 are possible.....
conservative crapola

Kutztown, PA

#58 Sep 30, 2013
It was hilarious to see a female teabagging con woman hater (propped-up by the teabagging cons with talking points) on the Sunday show, bitching that the Senate should come back early, when boner's teabagging con house enjoyed a 3-week vacation and thought nothing of the shutdown they were going to allow, while taking every day of their vacation.

hahahahahahahahaha
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#59 Sep 30, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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That is not the model the Democrats want.
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Germany has a growing poverty rate too.
The poverty rate in America is 15 and holding steady for 30 years, In Pennsylvania the poverty rate is just below 20% or 1 in every 5 throughout the State.

Germany's poverty rate is 11%, which is less than America's over the last 30 years.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#60 Sep 30, 2013
Why should businesses get stuck with paying for your health care insurance obligations?

Why isn't it a good idea to control cost of a business by their the employees purchasing affordable health care insurance independent of the employer?

What is the benefit to the employer who is often being stuck with paying portions of their premiums?

What is the harm in employees paying their own way? Most Employers pay something to their Employees cost for Health Care, but those days should be coming to an end and very soon. Employers want to keep that income in their pockets.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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You can post links all day and so can I.
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The slow but growing German poverty rate will cause further cutbacks in social services as what has happened in many parts of Europe.
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Deal with it might make you feel smart some how, but it's a shallow response to the badly designed ObamaCare program. One reason Barack likes to fly out to colleges to cry on the shoulders of students instead of people in the business is because he knows he can't b.s. the people involved in healthcare like he can a bunch of college kids.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#61 Sep 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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The poverty rate in America is 15 and holding steady for 30 years, In Pennsylvania the poverty rate is just below 20% or 1 in every 5 throughout the State.
Germany's poverty rate is 11%, which is less than America's over the last 30 years.
and they had to absorb the failed soviet East Germany....

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#62 Sep 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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The poverty rate in America is 15 and holding steady for 30 years, In Pennsylvania the poverty rate is just below 20% or 1 in every 5 throughout the State.
Germany's poverty rate is 11%, which is less than America's over the last 30 years.
Percentages are nice but one also needs to pay attention to the absolute numbers.
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Germany's poverty rate is higher than 11%.

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