Rumsfeld: WMD issue main reason for Iraq war

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If the Bush administration had known there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, it probably wouldn't have decided to invade in 2003, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an interview broadcast Sunday.

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U.S. General Abizaid Says 'Of Course It's About Oil'
Oct 16 2007 http://tinyurl.com/32eyzb
Retired General John Abizaid, the former CENTCOM Commander, said on Saturday about the Iraq war that, "Of course it's about oil, we can't really deny that." More from Matt at Think Progress:
Abizaid has previously argued that the U.S. would need "to keep a long-term military presence in Iraq" in order to protect "the free flow of goods and resources" such as oil, but his Stanford comments go much further in pinning oil as a prime motivator for the war.
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Australian Nelson: Oil a factor in Iraq deployment
July 5, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/ywcn24
The Howard Government has today admitted that securing oil supplies is a factor in Australia's continued military involvement in Iraq.
Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said today oil was a factor in Australia's contribution to the unpopular war, as "energy security" and stability in the Middle East would be crucial to the nation's future.
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It's still about oil in Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/y28lea December 8, 2006
A centerpiece of the Iraq Study Group's report is its advocacy for securing foreign companies' long-term access to Iraqi oil fields.
WHILE THE Bush administration, the media and nearly all the Democrats still refuse to explain the war in Iraq in terms of oil, the ever-pragmatic members of the Iraq Study Group share no such reticence.

Page 1, Chapter 1 of the Iraq Study Group report lays out Iraq's importance to its region, the U.S. and the world with this reminder: "It has the world's second-largest known oil reserves." The group then proceeds to give very specific and radical recommendations as to what the United States should do to secure those reserves. If the proposals are followed, Iraq's national oil industry will be commercialized and opened to foreign firms.

The report makes visible to everyone the elephant in the room: that we are fighting, killing and dying in a war for oil. It states in plain language that the U.S. government should use every tool at its disposal to ensure that American oil interests and those of its corporations are met.
It's spelled out in Recommendation No. 63, which calls on the U.S. to "assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise" and to "encourage investment in Iraq's oil sector by the international community and by international energy companies." This recommendation would turn Iraq's nationalized oil industry into a commercial entity that could be partly or fully privatized by foreign firms.

This is an echo of calls made before and immediately after the invasion of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juh...

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Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oil
September 16, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3dnkw3
America’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.

In his long-awaited memoir, to be published tomorrow, Greenspan, a Republican whose 18-year tenure as head of the US Federal Reserve was widely admired, will also deliver a stinging critique of President George W Bush’s economic policies.

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy.“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Britain and America have always insisted the war had nothing to do with oil. Bush said the aim was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction and end Saddam’s support for terrorism. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/a...
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A Spy Speaks Out
Former Top CIA Official Tyler Drumheller On "Faulty" Intelligence Claims /
http://tinyurl.com/rle4x / April 23, 2006

"The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy."

Tyler Drumheller CIA Ret.

(CBS) When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller — a 26-year veteran of the agency — has decided to do something CIA officials at his level almost never do: Speak out.

He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the president's determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60m...

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Ex-CIA Official Paul Pillar Faults Use of Data on Iraq
Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says
February 10, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/azl6w

The former CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East until last year has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking" intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to war, and of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

Paul R Pillar's critique is one of the most severe indictments of White House actions by a former Bush official since Richard C. Clarke, a former National Security Council staff member, went public with his criticism of the administration's handling of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and its failure to deal with the terrorist threat beforehand.

It is also the first time that such a senior intelligence officer has so directly and publicly condemned the administration's handling of intelligence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

1948 Smith-Mundt Act The 1948 Smith-Mundt Act prohibited the domestic dissemination of United States government propaganda. The reasoning behind Smith-Mundt was that Congress wanted to be certain that a United States government agency could not brainwash our own citizens as Hitler had done in Germany.
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Sly Fox News wrote:
It's still about oil in Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/y28lea December 8, 2006
A centerpiece of the Iraq Study Group's report is its advocacy for securing foreign companies' long-term access to Iraqi oil fields.
WHILE THE Bush administration, the media and nearly all the Democrats still refuse to explain the war in Iraq in terms of oil, the ever-pragmatic members of the Iraq Study Group share no such reticence.
Page 1, Chapter 1 of the Iraq Study Group report lays out Iraq's importance to its region, the U.S. and the world with this reminder: "It has the world's second-largest known oil reserves." The group then proceeds to give very specific and radical recommendations as to what the United States should do to secure those reserves. If the proposals are followed, Iraq's national oil industry will be commercialized and opened to foreign firms.
The report makes visible to everyone the elephant in the room: that we are fighting, killing and dying in a war for oil. It states in plain language that the U.S. government should use every tool at its disposal to ensure that American oil interests and those of its corporations are met.
It's spelled out in Recommendation No. 63, which calls on the U.S. to "assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise" and to "encourage investment in Iraq's oil sector by the international community and by international energy companies." This recommendation would turn Iraq's nationalized oil industry into a commercial entity that could be partly or fully privatized by foreign firms.
This is an echo of calls made before and immediately after the invasion of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juh...
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Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oil
September 16, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3dnkw3
America’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.
In his long-awaited memoir, to be published tomorrow, Greenspan, a Republican whose 18-year tenure as head of the US Federal Reserve was widely admired, will also deliver a stinging critique of President George W Bush’s economic policies.
However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy.“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.
Britain and America have always insisted the war had nothing to do with oil. Bush said the aim was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction and end Saddam’s support for terrorism. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/a...
The Iraq Study Group Report
James A. Baker, III, and Lee H. Hamilton, Co-Chairs
Lawrence S. Eagleburger, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III,
Sandra Day O’Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb,
Alan K. Simpson / http://www.c-span.org/pdf/iraq_study_group_re...
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Let's pretend for a sec that Rumsfeld isn't lying scum. Let's pretend that he thought Iraq had WMD, and that later, after the U.S. attack, he "learned he was was wrong."

Well guess what? Even if we pretend this was the case, that makes Rumsfeld a war criminal, along with every other architect in the US-led unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq.

If we look to the Nuremberg trials for legal precedents, launching aggressive war is a hanging offense.

So lets get these prosecutions going, before Dick Cheney kicks the bucket "preemptively."
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Donald Runsfield trying to get an extreme makeover.

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Alex Jones wrote:
Let's pretend for a sec that Rumsfeld isn't lying scum. Let's pretend that he thought Iraq had WMD, and that later, after the U.S. attack, he "learned he was was wrong."
Well guess what? Even if we pretend this was the case, that makes Rumsfeld a war criminal, along with every other architect in the US-led unprovoked war of aggression in Iraq.
If we look to the Nuremberg trials for legal precedents, launching aggressive war is a hanging offense.
So lets get these prosecutions going, before Dick Cheney kicks the bucket "preemptively."
I agree AJ but one little problem with that.

Bill Clinton swept Iran/Contra under the rug and Barack Obama is doing the same with Bush/Cheney.

In fact Obama is continuing 80% to 85% of all Bush/Cheney failed policies.

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Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial, Says Nuremberg Prosecutor
Aug. 25, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/6bodqmu

Aug 25 (OneWorld)- A chief prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at Nuremberg has said George W. Bush should be tried for war crimes along with Saddam Hussein. Benjamin Ferencz, who secured convictions for 22 Nazi officers for their work in orchestrating the death squads that killed more than 1 million people, told OneWorld both Bush and Saddam should be tried for starting "aggressive" wars--Saddam for his 1990 attack on Kuwait and Bush for his 2003 invasion of Iraq.

"Nuremberg declared that aggressive war is the supreme international crime," the 87-year-old Ferencz told OneWorld from his home in New York. He said the United Nations charter, which was written after the carnage of World War II, contains a provision that no nation can use armed force without the permission of the UN Security Council.

Ferencz said that after Nuremberg the international community realized that every war results in violations by both sides, meaning the primary objective should be preventing any war from occurring in the first place.

He said the atrocities of the Iraq war--from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of dozens of civilians by U.S. forces in Haditha to the high number of civilian casualties caused by insurgent car bombs--were highly predictable at the start of the war.
http://www.truth-out.org/article/bush-and-sad...
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sly, think for a moment, was it worth 37 Million dollars to investigate a Bj? may hyprocrite repuglicans say, YEA.

to a point I do agree with you but I like to think outside the box, the democrats are thinking outside the box and figuring out, would it worth tax payers dollars for some ideology vegence? I think NOT.

Maybe Obama didn't want to put the country through that and waste American Dollars but bet your bottom dollar if it was turned around the repuglicans would be up in arms and spending tax dollars and when nothing came of it they will say. YEA.
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I agree AJ but one little problem with that.
Bill Clinton swept Iran/Contra under the rug and Barack Obama is doing the same with Bush/Cheney.
In fact Obama is continuing 80% to 85% of all Bush/Cheney failed policies.
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Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial, Says Nuremberg Prosecutor
Aug. 25, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/6bodqmu
Aug 25 (OneWorld)- A chief prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at Nuremberg has said George W. Bush should be tried for war crimes along with Saddam Hussein. Benjamin Ferencz, who secured convictions for 22 Nazi officers for their work in orchestrating the death squads that killed more than 1 million people, told OneWorld both Bush and Saddam should be tried for starting "aggressive" wars--Saddam for his 1990 attack on Kuwait and Bush for his 2003 invasion of Iraq.
"Nuremberg declared that aggressive war is the supreme international crime," the 87-year-old Ferencz told OneWorld from his home in New York. He said the United Nations charter, which was written after the carnage of World War II, contains a provision that no nation can use armed force without the permission of the UN Security Council.
Ferencz said that after Nuremberg the international community realized that every war results in violations by both sides, meaning the primary objective should be preventing any war from occurring in the first place.
He said the atrocities of the Iraq war--from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of dozens of civilians by U.S. forces in Haditha to the high number of civilian casualties caused by insurgent car bombs--were highly predictable at the start of the war.
http://www.truth-out.org/article/bush-and-sad...
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Dingo wrote:
sly, think for a moment, was it worth 37 Million dollars to investigate a Bj? may hyprocrite repuglicans say, YEA.
to a point I do agree with you but I like to think outside the box, the democrats are thinking outside the box and figuring out, would it worth tax payers dollars for some ideology vegence? I think NOT.
Maybe Obama didn't want to put the country through that and waste American Dollars but bet your bottom dollar if it was turned around the repuglicans would be up in arms and spending tax dollars and when nothing came of it they will say. YEA.
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I think the number was closer to $70 Million dollars.

I agree the fascist Republicans love the Nuclear Option Filibuster and Investigations of Democrats.

I believe you are giving the Democrats to much credit because almost nobody in Washington DC thinks outside the box.
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OK, 56, 23, 87 98 million dollars it does NOT matter if it was 10 dollars, it's the hyprocrisy about spending US Tax Dollars just like the Morons who cheered when GW Bush spent over a trillion dollars in IRAQ.

wait, i didn't mind the dollars.

it's the 4,500 American Troop lives that were lost.
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I think the number was closer to $70 Million dollars.
I agree the fascist Republicans love the Nuclear Option Filibuster and Investigations of Democrats.
I believe you are giving the Democrats to much credit because almost nobody in Washington DC thinks outside the box.
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OK, 56, 23, 87 98 million dollars it does NOT matter if it was 10 dollars, it's the hyprocrisy about spending US Tax Dollars just like the Morons who cheered when GW Bush spent over a trillion dollars in IRAQ.
wait, i didn't mind the dollars.
it's the 4,500 American Troop lives that were lost.
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Your right.

The Tea Bags proved they are phony because the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest is going to cost another $700 Million to the deficits and Obama approved it.
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the democrats need a devil like karl rove, he was a master of spin, the flowking bastard can take a negative and spin it into so called facts and the religious morns believe it.

Where is the democrat devil to to tell the massess that extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich will increase the deficits by over 700 billion dollars?

right now I need to befriend lucifer..

Karl rove, can you hook me up.

thanks bro.
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The Tea Bags proved they are phony because the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest is going to cost another $700 Million to the deficits and Obama approved it.
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Dingo wrote:
the democrats need a devil like karl rove, he was a master of spin, the flowking bastard can take a negative and spin it into so called facts and the religious morns believe it.
Where is the democrat devil to to tell the massess that extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich will increase the deficits by over 700 billion dollars?
right now I need to befriend lucifer..
Karl rove, can you hook me up.
thanks bro.
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LOL

Satan is not who you should want anything to do with.

I KID YOU NOT!
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maybe so but Karl rove has been the driving force.
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Satan is not who you should want anything to do with.
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Karl Rove is second to none in manipulation, propaganda and raising money.

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Forget the money and political spinsters. In Afghanistan right now, a one-legged Afghan Red Cross worker named Said Musa is sitting in a prison cell awaiting his execution. Musa, a father of six children, was arrested by the Afghan government as he attempted to seek asylum at the German embassy last year. He was sentenced to death by an Afghan court that was established by the new Afghan government that the United States worked so hard to set up. He has been tortured and sexually abused for months. An Afghan judge has told him that he will be hung within a matter of days. So what was his crime? He was a Muslim that has become a Christian. Under Sharia law, that is punishable by death. Is this is the "freedom" that we have sacrificed so many American lives to bring to Afghanistan? This Christian father of six will be hung by the Afghan "democracy" that the United States has been "nurturing" and that U.S. soldiers have been working so hard to defend.

The real problem is that we are wasting soldiers lives and money we don't have and all it is doing is making Afghanistan/Iraq worse. In the end, all of the meddling that we have done over in the Middle East will probably end up backfiring on us big time. You see, the truth is that "forgiveness" is not a big thing in many of the countries over there. In the America grudges may last for months or years, but in the Middle East grudges can last for centuries.
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Forget the money and political spinsters. In Afghanistan right now, a one-legged Afghan Red Cross worker named Said Musa is sitting in a prison cell awaiting his execution. Musa, a father of six children, was arrested by the Afghan government as he attempted to seek asylum at the German embassy last year. He was sentenced to death by an Afghan court that was established by the new Afghan government that the United States worked so hard to set up. He has been tortured and sexually abused for months. An Afghan judge has told him that he will be hung within a matter of days. So what was his crime? He was a Muslim that has become a Christian. Under Sharia law, that is punishable by death. Is this is the "freedom" that we have sacrificed so many American lives to bring to Afghanistan? This Christian father of six will be hung by the Afghan "democracy" that the United States has been "nurturing" and that U.S. soldiers have been working so hard to defend.
The real problem is that we are wasting soldiers lives and money we don't have and all it is doing is making Afghanistan/Iraq worse. In the end, all of the meddling that we have done over in the Middle East will probably end up backfiring on us big time. You see, the truth is that "forgiveness" is not a big thing in many of the countries over there. In the America grudges may last for months or years, but in the Middle East grudges can last for centuries.
You have it right.

It is called Blowback and it always comes backs to haunt the USA.

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"Terrorism" and Blowback
Part Three: "Terrorism," Blowback and US Foreign Policy during the Clinton Years
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http://www.janrainwater.com/htdocs/3.htm

Blowback From The A-Bombs
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http://www.swans.com/library/art11/pgreen70.h...

The CIA In Iran 1953
http://tinyurl.com/3jg88 / June 18, 2000
The Central Intelligence Agency's secret history of its covert operation to overthrow Iran's government in 1953 offers an inside look at how the agency stumbled into success, despite a series of mishaps that derailed its original plans.
Written in 1954 by one of the coup's chief planners, the history details how United States and British officials plotted the military coup that returned the shah of Iran to power and toppled Iran's elected prime minister, an ardent nationalist.
The document shows that:
Britain, fearful of Iran's plans to nationalize its oil industry, came up with the idea for the coup in 1952 and pressed the United States to mount a joint operation to remove the prime minister.
The C.I.A. and S.I.S., the British intelligence service, handpicked Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh and covertly funneled $5 million to General Zahedi's regime two days after the coup prevailed.
Iranians working for the C.I.A. and posing as Communists harassed religious leaders and staged the bombing of one cleric's home in a campaign to turn the country's Islamic religious community against Mossadegh's government.
The shah's cowardice nearly killed the C.I.A. operation. Fearful of risking his throne, the Shah repeatedly refused to sign C.I.A.-written royal decrees to change the government. The agency arranged for the shah's twin sister, Princess Ashraf Pahlevi, and Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, the father of the Desert Storm commander, to act as intermediaries to try to keep him from wilting under pressure. He still fled the country just before the coup succeeded. http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/...

The CIA In Iran 1953
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/

The CIA In Iran 1953
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What a fool Rumsfeld was, and Gen.Powell resigned in shame
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Ahhhhhh what we do for the love of oil.

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