What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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LOL...I see you and that other moron "Yeah" think partisan stonewalling is something that started two years ago. Dopes.
Just like you and your ilk seem to think the economic woes of the country started 4 years ago.

Sauce for the goose.
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Marco Rubio 2016!
You are close, but no cigar.

Jeb Bush / Hillary Clinton 2016.

Trent Lott, Ronald Reagan and Republican Racism
Dec. 14, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/d9w75
Southern Strategy: The race question has haunted Reagan and the GOP for decades
The same could be said, of course, about such Republican heroes as, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon or George Bush the elder, all of whom used coded racial messages to lure disaffected blue collar and Southern white voters away from the Democrats. Yet it's with Reagan, who set a standard for exploiting white anger and resentment rarely seen since George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door, that the Republican's selective memory about its race-baiting habit really stands out.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...

No tears for Reagan
June 8, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/558r6l
Excuse me if I don’t shed any tears over the passing of former President Ronald Reagan. While the news of the 40th president’s death brought on a flood of sentimentality over the nation’s media this past weekend, I could not help but recall what the Reagan presidency really meant for Black Americans. Similar to what occurred upon the death of Richard Nixon, amnesia has set upon journalists as they recall Reagan’s era; choosing to indulge in idol worship rather than serious reflection on the former president’s policies.
http://www.blackamericatoday.com/article.cfm...

Ronald Reagan: The Great White Redeemer
http://tinyurl.com/6jljhm / June 10 2004
Only 12 years elapsed between the glorious military victory over the Confederate Slave States in 1865 and the definitive defeat of Reconstruction in 1877. In many important respects, the Reconstruction period was even briefer than that. By 1870, when the last of the southern states ratified the 15th Amendment to the Constitution, Tennessee had already rejected biracial democracy and installed an all-white “Redeemer” government.“Redemption” then swept through Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/94/94_cover_r...

Reagan's heart of darkness
June 9, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/28ytj
PRESIDENT Bush proclaimed: "Ronald Reagan believed that God takes the side of justice and that America has a special calling to oppose tyranny and defend freedom." In the first three days of news reports on the death of the former president, not a single major American newspaper, television station, or politician has dared to exhume this counterpoint to the Reagan's legacy: "Immoral, evil, and totally un-Christian."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...

Reagan, White As Snow
http://tinyurl.com/6lujee
Last week, as we’ve heard, the Republican presidential candidates praised the name and heritage of Ronald Reagan 40 times during the televised Show and Tell at the Reagan Presidential Library. That none of them mentioned Reagan’s legacy of white supremacy and support for apartheid is a little like invoking Jefferson Davis and not mentioning treason or slavery. Actually, a lot like it.
Ronald Reagan was a white supremacist to his very core, and left enough traces over his lengthy political career so that it’s evident for anyone who cares to look—which apparently few do.
Domestically, he opposed every legislative remedy for African Americans, betraying a meanness of spirit and an open racism. As Sidney Blumenthal wrote in The Guardian in 2003:/ http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/05/08/r...

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BS.
You're just another Obama lackey who refuses to accept blame for anything. Neither party will work with the other.
Republicans refuse to accept blame for the repeal of Glass Steagall too and who controlled congress in 1999 that cause the financial crisis to begin with.
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Marco Rubio 2016!
He just got blasted for claiming the earth is 10,000 yrs old.. That crap may get you elected to the House in a particular constituency, maybe to the senate in a particular state.

It will however, never get you elected president..

If its what you believe, believe it, but don't open your mouth and share it. Not if you hope for a Presidency.

Sad really, as far as Repubs go, he may have had the best shot.
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Your post makes ZERO sense.
Our economy IS in trouble. The term "fiscal cliff" ring a bell?
Our infrastructure IS crumbling, or maybe you've been under a rock during the storms of the past 14 months?
Your nuclear war claim is fear mongering at best, delusional at worst.
Our responsibility is to hire a confident, capable leader, not a spineless socialist whose heroes are Communists and Marxists.
But this is how bad both parties are. Yes, the Dems are taking the country down with debt and welfare and governmemnt pensoins, and yes, Bush took the U.S. down with oil wars, and yes, crazy Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum would have started WWIII, they would have started a war with Iran, because the uber rich make tons of money off of the wars, and they make money off of getting control of OPEC oil when they invade OPEC countries like Iraq and give control of the oil to Exxon and BP. Both parties ran up debt nonstop until we went under from it, the Dems on domestic programs and the Repubs on war profiteering and oil wars.

Bush's free drugs on Medicare has more unfunded liabilities than all of Social Security. Social Security has about $17 trillion in unfunded promises, and Medicare drug benefit has over $20 trilion in unfunded promises to the baby boomers. And that is Bush's welfare he did. The regular Medicare has $82 trillion of unfunded promises. Both parties do exact same dysfunctional, corrupt things.
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Marco Rubio 2016!
Rubio is overrated. He's a second year senator. They need a governor. Bobby Jindal is under-rated. He's a great governor. It looks like Gov. Chris Christie is going to run. Rubio is way too new and is not managing a state so he is not getting executive experience. The Republican party puts him out there all of the time just because he speaks Spanish, but he has very little experience and he is not Mexican, he is Cuban, so Mexicans do not necessarily relate to him. The Hispanic population in the U.S. is almost all Mexican. There are only a few Cubans, they come from Cuba to Florida. Cubans tend to be conservatives cause they come from socialist Cuba whereas Mexicans like the Dems cause they come here from a third world country and get fat welfare programs. So they are two different races, different people.
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Ol Ronnie is to blame for our current economic mess. Add Alan Greenspan to the list:
It happened on November 4th, 1980. The United States was at a crossroads, with high oil prices hurting the economy and the Iran hostage crisis making the front page of all the newspapers, Ronald Reagan defeated incumbent president, Jimmy Carter, in a landslide. Reagan was sworn into office on January 20th, 1981 and the "Reagan Revolution" was under way. Reagan implemented supply side economics, or Reaganomics, which was the idea of drastically lowering the tax rates, primarily on the wealthy, so they could have extra money to create jobs. In theory, the wealth would "trickle down," but the reality was much different. As Reagan lowered the top tax rate from 70% when he entered office, to 28% by the time he left eight years later, Reagan had tripled the national debt because of the lack of revenue brought in by the government. In order to make up for massive losses, Reagan raised taxes eleven times, but the taxes that were raised hit the middle class the hardest.
In 1982, Reagan implemented a five cent per gallon gasoline tax and also increased taxes on the trucking industry. The following year in 1983, Reagan increased the tax on Social Security, which was designed to keep the program solvent for many years to come as the baby boomer generation entered their retirement years. The issue that the program ran into was that when the 1983 Social Security tax plan was passed, it was designed to hit close to 90% of all wage and salary incomes, but as the richer became richer and low and middle class Americans began to struggle, the amount of taxable income lowered. By the time the economy crashed in 2008, only 83% of wages and income were eligible to be taxed for Social Security. The tax hike hit the middle class hard, as the wealthy ran all the way to the bank.

Of all the pieces of legislation that Ronald Reagan desecrated during his time in office, the Sherman Antitrust Act might be the most important. The Sherman Antitrust Act was passed in 1890 and prevented businesses from reducing competition in the marketplace and even required the federal government to investigate companies that were in violation of the law. Ronald Reagan decided to stop enforcing the Sherman Act and within a few years, local businesses started to dry up and big companies began to take over. Local convenient and hardware stores were disappearing while Walmart and Target stores began popping up more frequently. Ronald Reagan's policies catered towards the wealthy and put the economic weight on the shoulders of the middle class and the poor.

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Ol Ronnie is to blame for our current economic mess. Add Alan Greenspan to the list:
It happened on November 4th, 1980. The United States was at a crossroads, with high oil prices hurting the economy and the Iran hostage crisis making the front page of all the newspapers, Ronald Reagan defeated incumbent president, Jimmy Carter, in a landslide. Reagan was sworn into office on January 20th, 1981 and the "Reagan Revolution" was under way. Reagan implemented supply side economics, or Reaganomics, which was the idea of drastically lowering the tax rates, primarily on the wealthy, so they could have extra money to create jobs. In theory, the wealth would "trickle down," but the reality was much different. As Reagan lowered the top tax rate from 70% when he entered office, to 28% by the time he left eight years later, Reagan had tripled the national debt because of the lack of revenue brought in by the government. In order to make up for massive losses, Reagan raised taxes eleven times, but the taxes that were raised hit the middle class the hardest.
In 1982, Reagan implemented a five cent per gallon gasoline tax and also increased taxes on the trucking industry. The following year in 1983, Reagan increased the tax on Social Security, which was designed to keep the program solvent for many years to come as the baby boomer generation entered their retirement years. The issue that the program ran into was that when the 1983 Social Security tax plan was passed, it was designed to hit close to 90% of all wage and salary incomes, but as the richer became richer and low and middle class Americans began to struggle, the amount of taxable income lowered. By the time the economy crashed in 2008, only 83% of wages and income were eligible to be taxed for Social Security. The tax hike hit the middle class hard, as the wealthy ran all the way to the bank.
Of all the pieces of legislation that Ronald Reagan desecrated during his time in office, the Sherman Antitrust Act might be the most important. The Sherman Antitrust Act was passed in 1890 and prevented businesses from reducing competition in the marketplace and even required the federal government to investigate companies that were in violation of the law. Ronald Reagan decided to stop enforcing the Sherman Act and within a few years, local businesses started to dry up and big companies began to take over. Local convenient and hardware stores were disappearing while Walmart and Target stores began popping up more frequently. Ronald Reagan's policies catered towards the wealthy and put the economic weight on the shoulders of the middle class and the poor.
The Sherman AntiTrust Act which is Anti-Capitalism was a product of the Republican Party too and put the Federal Government in charge of Business Activities and is what was used to go after John D. Rockefeller because the Federal Government didnt like his Business Activities which were capitalistic.

Sherman Antitrust Act

The Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act, July 2, 1890, ch. 647, 26 Stat. 209, 15 U.S.C.§§ 1–7) is a landmark federal statute on competition law passed by Congress in 1890. It prohibits certain business activities that reduce competition in the marketplace, and requires the United States federal government to investigate and pursue trusts, companies, and organizations suspected of being in violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrus...
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LOL...I see you and that other moron "Yeah" think partisan stonewalling is something that started two years ago. Dopes.
lol! As I said son, cons created the ground rules. Non cons just upped the ante.

You're the moron.

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[QUOTE who="giggle! "]<quoted text>HS!! ROTFLMFAO!!!
That's the best thing I've read in, maybe my whole life!!

Just because you read some Christian junk science book, does not bequeath unto you a "physics degree".

Let's be honest, without spell check, physics would be beyond your ability to type, let alone have a basic understanding of.[/QUOTE]

It is a fact there are more space dimentions than you can see!!!

The problem is that people like you will never believe unless they see it, but science already proven they are real!!!

So science prices that the invisible dimentions are real, where the electrons play, and God has access to it by default.

Any one can fit inside three dimentions but there are at least ten!!!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/imaginin...

String theorists are betting that extra dimensions do indeed exist; in fact, the equations that describe superstring theory require a universe with no fewer than 10 dimensions. But even physicists who spend all day thinking about extra spatial dimensions have a hard time describing what they might look like or how we apparently feeble-minded humans might approach an understanding of them. That's always been the case, and perhaps always will be.

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<quoted text>The total debt from all of the presidents is $16 trillion. Obama himself did not run up $16 trillion. Bush ran up $5 trillion, so the total was $11 when Obama took office, he ran up another $5, for a total of $16 from all of the presidents.
Do you think 4 trillion debt is "unpatriotic" Yes or Nor?

The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

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Our economc problems stem from corporate and executive greed. The government is guilty ONLY from a lack of proper oversight and regulation which the Republican Party ran away from ......again.

What did we learn from the election? The Republican Party can run from science, economics and common sense. But they can't run long.

“Ignore the trolls”

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It shows they voted for free stuff, duh!!!
You can not beat Santa Claus - BarrakClaus!!!
Until he runs out of borrowed Chinese toys/money!
Thought you wouldn't provide a source - why am I not surprised. Done with your idiocy - you post unsubstantiated rubbish, you lack a basic understanding of how your country's government works and you plagiarise unmercifully. Oh, and you have difficulty working out what truth is. Go and watch tea party propoganda and then you can spout more rubbish. I shall not be acknowledging it for it is a waste of time debating with an idiot, one who would appear not to have gainful employment, given the time in the USA that you are posting.

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<quoted text>Wikipedia?, Really? That says a lot right there, but I digress:

Allah is the Arabic word for 'God'The word Allah was in usage since the days of pre-Islamic Arabia. Islam is a monotheistic and Abrahamic faith. This means that Muslims believe that there is only one God, and that this God is the same God that Christians and Jews (referred to in Islam as the People of the Book) worship. Muslims believe that Abraham, Moses and Jesus, and mostly all the other Prophets of the Old and New Testament, were all prophets of God. Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God.

The Islamic concept of mankind's place in the universe hinges on the notion that Allah, or God, is the only true reality. There is nothing permanent other than Him. Allah is considered eternal and uncreated, whereas everything else in the universe is created. The Qur'an describes Him in Sura 112: "Say: He is Allah, Singular. Allah, the Absolute. He begetteth not nor was begotten. And to Him have never been one equal. The Qur'an condemns and mocks the pre-Islamic Arabs for attributing daughters to Allah (sura 53:19.)
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Christianity is a rather young religion, comparatively speaking, and you have to realize that they borrowed liberally from other religions to make their own.
You imply Christianity is younger than Islam. That shows your ignorance right in there!!!

Let me teach you Islam 101:

Islam was never a religion unknown of until Muhammed had an encounter with a satanic demon who told him what to say at around 600 After Christ, AD.

So Islam is already 600 years YOUNGER Than Christianity, therefore Christianity is 600 years OLDER than Muhammad, DUH!!!

Your ignorance is pathetic!!!

Islam came AFTER Christianity!!!

How else could they had mentioned Jesus in the Koran, Duh!!!

What is PRE-Christian is the worshiping of the MOON-GOD ALLAH!!!

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god-alla...

"Allah, the Supreme Being of the Mussulmans: Before Islam. That the Arabs, before the time of Muhammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fashion, a supreme god called Allah,--"the Ilah, or the god, if the form is of genuine Arabic source; if of Aramaic, from Alaha, "the god"—seems absolutely certain. Whether he was an abstraction or a development from some individual god, such as Hubal, need not here be considered...But they also recognized and tended to worship more fervently and directly other strictly subordinate gods...It is certain that they regarded particular deities (mentioned in 1iii. 19-20 are al-'Uzza, Manat or Manah, al-Lat'; some have interpreted vii, 179 as a reference to a perversion of Allah to Allat as daughters of Allah (vi. 100; xvi, 59; xxxvii, 149; 1iii, 21); they also asserted that he had sons (vi. 100)..."There was no god save Allah". This meant, for Muhammed and the Meccans, that of all the gods whom they worshipped, Allah was the only real deity. It took no account of the nature of God in the abstract, only of the personal position of Allah....ilah, the common noun from which Allah is probably derived..." (First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 302)
Allah. Islamic name for God. Is derived from Semitic El, and [Allah] originally applied to the Moon; he [Allah] seems to have been preceded by Ilmaqah, the Moon-god. Allat is the female counterpart of Allah.(Everyman's Dictionary of Non-Classical Mythology, Egerton Sykes, Godspeed, Allah)

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<quoted text>Wikipedia?, Really? That says a lot right there, but I digress:

Allah is the Arabic word for 'God'The word Allah was in usage since the days of pre-Islamic Arabia. Islam is a monotheistic and Abrahamic faith. This means that Muslims believe that there is only one God, and that this God is the same God that Christians and Jews (referred to in Islam as the People of the Book) worship. Muslims believe that Abraham, Moses and Jesus, and mostly all the other Prophets of the Old and New Testament, were all prophets of God. Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God.

The Islamic concept of mankind's place in the universe hinges on the notion that Allah, or God, is the only true reality. There is nothing permanent other than Him. Allah is considered eternal and uncreated, whereas everything else in the universe is created. The Qur'an describes Him in Sura 112: "Say: He is Allah, Singular. Allah, the Absolute. He begetteth not nor was begotten. And to Him have never been one equal. The Qur'an condemns and mocks the pre-Islamic Arabs for attributing daughters to Allah (sura 53:19.)

Allah is considered by Muslims to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. He is said to be "in Heaven" (Qur'an 67:16) and "in the heavens and the earth" (Qur'an 66:3), but also said to be "nearer to him [man] than his jugular vein" (Qur'an 50:16); He constantly watches all that goes on in the world, and knows all things. This suggests that He is present in the heart as the supreme witness.'And He it is Who takes your souls at night (in sleep), and He knows what you acquire in the day, then He raises you up therein that an appointed term may be fulfilled; then to Him is your return, then He will inform you of what you were doing.(sura 6:60)'

Muslims do not try to draw or depict Allah in any way, according to Islamic belief it could lead to idol worship. Instead, they focus on His 99 attributes/names that are stated in the Quran, the holy book of the Muslims. Nearly one third of the book is used describing Allah's attributes and actions. Also,'hadith qudsi' are special recorded sayings of Muhammad to Muslims where he quotes what Allah says to him. The ninety-nine attributes are frequently written in calligraphic Arabic as a permissible decoration, which adorns mosques and homes of Muslims.
http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php...

Kind of sounds quite remarkably like "Jesus Christ claimed to be the “I AM.” It is the personal name of the God of the Old Testament (Exodus 3:13-14). On several occasions it is recorded that Jesus used the “I AM” formula in attesting to His deity. He claimed to be the LORD God, Jehovah, Yahweh." http://www.abideinchrist.com/selah/mar19.html

So how do you work out the notion that there is God the Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit. How do you explain that one being be three individuals when 'The Son' is claiming to be what His Father is?

Christianity is a rather young religion, comparatively speaking, and you have to realize that they borrowed liberally from other religions to make their own.
"Muslims do not try to draw or depict Allah in any way, according to Islamic belief it could lead to idol worship. Instead, they focus on His 99 attributes/names that are stated in the Quran, the holy book of the Muslims"

One of the 99 manes is: DECEIVER, dude!!!

Deceiver: deceive[ dih-seev ]
verb (used with object)
1. to mislead by a false appearance or statement; delude: They deceived the enemy by disguising the destroyer as a freighter.
2. to be unfaithful to (one's spouse or lover).
3. to while away (time).

Base on the Bible and common sense Satan IS the deceiver.

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<quoted text>The residual costs will more likely double that figure. I.E. future disability payments, healthcare.edu cation. Benefits to family members of the passed, reenlistment bonuses,new equipment. Everything from helicopters to tanks to humvees either need rebuilt or replaced due that freakin sand. The future surviving Veterans benefits alone will be costly.... WMD's my @ss.
How much will Obamacare will cost in lost jobs in the long run?

It already had!!!

Olive Garden to fire all employees and hire them back as PART-TIMERS, because of Obamacare!!!

Republicans predicted with 100% accuracy the mortgage meltdown, and it did happened as predicted, now we predict Obamacare will increase unemployment to 14%.

Republicans are the experts on finances!!!

Where is your budget, why had the democrats not passed a budget in three years?

Why?

Let's hear the silence!!!

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<quoted text>I agree...all this false blame for Obama and the deficit, is just to distract from the extreme screwing this country took, from Bush/Cheney.....History is gonna show Bush was likely the worst ever.....
Obama had been in charge for four years already, did you forget?

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<quoted text>So how would it have been better if we simply gave all our money to the rich? We would still be without jobs; with less chance of getting one. The US economy would be going the route of Somalia. Our infrastructure would crumble. The US would be engaged in more wars, probably nuclear wars. We do have a responsibility to prevent people like Romney from having power.
And to stop Americans from becoming rich like him, right?

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<quoted text>No, I refuse to bow down to you thieving, submissive Socialists.

Now, back to the point of my post which you conveniently ignored.

In his own words, Obama is "irresponsible" and "unpatriotic" for doing exactly what he accused Bush of doing.
That is a good one!!!

No wonder he keeps ignoring it, he has to, facts are against his favor!!!

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<quoted text>I suppose you're going to claim had the roles been reversed the dems would be falling over themselves to work with the GOP?
Anonymous is ignoring the 2010 shellacking!!!

Silence on his part!

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