The President has failed us

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This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

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Jaxxon wrote:
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What I am telling you, since you don't seem to know much about what we're discussing, is that the entire Arab league combined (even if they could get their political act together to get it down) does not have the military capacity to deal with the Syria situation and if they tried it would most likely result in a region wide war that would require our direct involvement at some point.
As far as WWII your right, Americans did not want to get involved. We watched our friends get slaughtered as Hitler advanced across Europe and we didn't see how it involved our interests.
Then one day it landed on our soil, Americans died and we couldn't ignore our responsibilities anymore.
If we had involved ourselves sooner, when our friends were pleading for our help, the second world war might have been cut off before it lead to the deaths of between 50 and 100 million people and warfare on a global scale.
If you're determined to repeat the mistakes of the past let the blood be on your hands because (just like back then) there are people like me telling people like you right here and now, we either act now when it can be contained, or we act later once it has landed on our doorstep and American citizens have died and it has become an all out struggle for survival.
gee, sounds like what we really need is a single entity to police the world and enforce minimum standards.

we could call it, let's see, the League of Nations... NO! let's call it the United Nations.

yeah, that shyte would work!

ya' think?LOFL!!!!

Jaxx, the 'time' for action is looooong past in the Middle East.

making all but Israel and the oil fields vast parking lots, now that might work...

get ready for a new age of crusades, folks. those pesky Ay-rabs and Mooslums need a lesson...:)
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EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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You can continue to mislead people thats what you do.. The AL has the means just not the balls to act.. America has the means and balls to act and the real question has always been should we?? I say no at this point in time.. As I stated diplomacy is the answer here from the AL and the russians.. You can forget iran at this stage..
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it's like the Monroe Doctrine: let the Middle East police THEIR criminals. if Saudi and Iran and Jordan, etc., don't want to be the cops, let Israel do it!

answer me this: most of the world's petro dollars reside there, why can't they just buy whatever they need without owing allegiance to any 'super' poser? be their own masters for a change?

answer: they are still trapped in the Middle Centuries as far as their cultures go. they are still living and fussing and fighting over Biblical matters. Humanity has moved on yet they can't seem to catch up.

some parts/peoples of the world population needs to be viewed for what they ARE: the family members best not talked about or interacted with... except as 'wards'.

heck, didn't even G Orwell recognize certain parts of the world as nothing more than perpetual battlegrounds?:)
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I think he has bought into the hype that we are the only Super Power left. I know we are way advanced in our weapons systems, but Russia isn't a bunch of dummy's either. Plus, we don't have the heart to win at any cost.
'have the heart to win at any cost' therein lies what has been WRONG about our using our military as a FP tool.

WWII was a win it all contest... as is ALL wars. real wars.

this 'policing the world' BS is what has got us into this current global situation.

first, we should NEVER get into a protracted shooting action without COMMITTING to an ALL OR NOTHING outcome.

in Korea, if we were NOT willing to fight Red China, we should have stayed OUT. VN, same-same. Iraq, Afghan, etc...

when the Soviets 'took over' Cuba, we should have invaded and secured OUR sphere of influence(actually, we should have supported Castro, etc...).

after the 1950s, we should have LEFT Europe, with nukes left behind for THEIR security, and CAME HOME. the same with all/most of our worldwide bases.

again, the MISSION of OUR military is DEFENSE. the further we have strayed from that, the worse our situation has become... AND MORE EXPENSIVE.

look at the Progressive/socialist posters here... while the Eur nations were benefitting from OUR military and protection, they grew their socialist economies, etc...

now, many of our citizens say 'why can't we be more like the EU?'.

BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE TO GIVE US A FREE RIDE!

now, the bill has come due and we cannot pay it. and our 'allies' cannot contibute to world security... or won't... OR A LITTLE BIT IF BOTH.

and, STILL, we will not withdraw and put our own house in order.

how does a weakened, sick, financially anemic 'big brother' help ANYBODY when it can't/won't help itself FIRST?

how does a morally bankrupt nation preach/teach other nations?

how does a nation that IGNORES it own Laws and Constitution expect to be taken seriously in the courts of World Opinions?

how does that 'shinning city on the hill' keep its lights ON when it has to borrow to pay its electric bill because it won't provide its OWN energy, AND STILL PRESENT A BEACON TO OTHERS?

the answers are simple: IT DON'T.

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One man's story - 9/11.

http://www.upworthy.com/the-incredible-inspir...

The Incredible Inspiration One Man Gave Us In The Last Hour Of His Life
Welles Crowther had an impact on many people in his life. It is inspiring to me that he actually chose to throw himself back into the depths of hell again and again to save the lives of people he didn't even know, not worrying once about his own life.
At 4:00, fate changes everything. At 8:15, a father's true pain hits you right in the gut. At 9:00 ... whoa, what a discovery.
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Sir William Ferrell wrote:
LMFAO!!
YES! TOUCHDOWN!
I LOVE COLORADO !
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COLORADO SPRINGS - Two Colorado Democrats who provided crucial support for a package of state gun laws were voted out of office on Tuesday in special elections seen as a test of whether swing-state voters would accept gun restrictions after mass ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us/colorado...
I love Colorado too! Okay wheres the next Columbine? Aurora theater? MORE MORE MORE!
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Yes was just bringing the little spoofer to your attention. lolol
I have a Boise one too. Or someone's spoofing me from somewhere else. However the heck ya do that????
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positronium wrote:
Everybody Please take a minute to honor those that died on 9/11.......Thank you.
I took five. Not nearly enough.
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One man's story - 9/11.
http://www.upworthy.com/the-incredible-inspir...
The Incredible Inspiration One Man Gave Us In The Last Hour Of His Life
Welles Crowther had an impact on many people in his life. It is inspiring to me that he actually chose to throw himself back into the depths of hell again and again to save the lives of people he didn't even know, not worrying once about his own life.
At 4:00, fate changes everything. At 8:15, a father's true pain hits you right in the gut. At 9:00 ... whoa, what a discovery.
I know you owe me no kindness.. But I have a question. Do you remember posting to me when I had to fly out of McCall on a small plane? Do you know what thread that was on. It's important. I may have posted something I need to know. To hard and unimportant to you or anyone else to go into. Thanks .

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Daniel Lewin's Legacy, Vision Flourish 11 Years After 9/11 Attacks

Lewin's Childhood Friend Recalls the Multi-Talented Hero and the First Victim of Sept. 11

I remember the feeling even today. As I sat in a shell-shocked newsroom on Sept. 11, 2001, reading the fire-hose of news blasting across my computer, one story caught my attention-and drained the blood from my face and created a pit in my stomach.

It was a news release from Akamai, a Boston-based Internet technology company, confirming that co-founder Daniel Lewin was aboard American Airlines Flight 11 that hit the North Tower of New York's World Trade Center.

The release immediately erased my objectivity as a journalist. I became a 10-year-old kid playing in the streets of my neighborhood with my friend Danny. This week, I'm reminded of his brilliance that is still evident today.

Log on to the world's busiest and most popular websites, and as the pages appear on the screen, thank Danny. He came up with a complex mathematical algorithm that is used to divert Internet traffic from server to server, preventing an online traffic jam. It is the basis for a company Danny helped found in 1998.

A year later, the company, Akamai, went public. Danny became a billionaire when he was just 29 years old.

Like just about every other technology-based company, Akamai got slammed when the bubble burst, as many of its clients got sucked under. The company's stock plunged from $300 a share to less than a buck almost overnight.

Today, the company is not only surviving, it's thriving. The stock is trading in the $30 range, up from about 75 cents in 2002. Danny's brilliance continues to shine as new online solutions are tied back to the work he did more than a decade ago.

"Akamai is a great legacy, and its success today has roots with Danny-his vision and ability to motivate people," co-founder and chief scientist Tom Leighton told me several years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

"We are realizing Danny's vision, and it would have been rewarding for him to see."

Danny, who was born and raised in south Denver before immigrating to Israel with his family, will also be remembered as the first person to die in the 9/11 attacks.

Flight communications show that on Sept. 11, Danny was in seat 9B of American Airlines Flight 11 bound for Los Angeles.

A recording from a flight attendant said that a businessman sitting in 9B was killed after he got out of his seat. Shortly afterward, the plane slammed into the World Trade Center. Danny's role is outlined briefly in the 9/11 Commission report.

Friends said that Danny probably knew better than anyone what was taking place and tried to stop the hijacking. That's because before MIT and Akamai, he served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a member of Sayeret Matkal, a counterterrorism unit. His exploits were legendary.

In one training exercise, his unit was given three days to cross 100 miles in the desert with few provisions. Danny did it twice.

At Danny's funeral, Charles Lewin said his son was the first casualty of the next great war.

At the time of his death, Danny and other Akamai founders were setting up the Akamai Foundation to encourage the study of math.

Not only are underprivileged students given a leg up through the foundation's "Magic of Math" program, successful students are given further encouragement through scholarships.

Akamai has a portrait of Danny in the main lobby and named its Employee of the Year Award after him. Shortly after Sept. 11, MIT named a public courtyard in Cambridge the Daniel Lewin Square. A tree planted in the square flourishes today, as does his legacy.

http://news.yahoo.com/daniel-lewins-legacy-vi...

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Bonnie wrote:
<quoted text> I know you owe me no kindness.. But I have a question. Do you remember posting to me when I had to fly out of McCall on a small plane? Do you know what thread that was on. It's important. I may have posted something I need to know. To hard and unimportant to you or anyone else to go into. Thanks .
I believe that was on the Hispanics Fear thread, but I'm not sure. If not, it was probably the Joe Wilson thread.

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Bonnie wrote:
<quoted text> I took five. Not nearly enough.
I have taken twelve years. I will never forget. Never!

In those twelve years since, our nation has been infiltrated by those with the same mindset and that mindset is the total destruction of everything our great nation stands for. IMO......

Lest we forget.
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Jaxxon wrote:
Syria says it accepted Russian weapons proposal
Syria says it has accepted Russia's proposal to place its chemical weapons under international control for subsequent dismantling...
...Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Russia is now working with Syria to prepare a detailed plan of action, which will be presented shortly.
Lavrov said that Russia will then be ready to finalize the plan together with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-says-accepted-rus...
Well, if this works, we avoid taking military action against Syria and despite the short sightedness of some of the people that post here (and at the risk of being labeled an "Obama supporter") I'm putting this one in the success column for the president.
Let's face it, without the credible threat of force from the US, Russia and Syria would not be moving to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons arsenal.
that would be Pres Putin, right?:)

same/same, right?lol

Russia... the OTHER red, white and blue meat....

another Obama victory....

gotta love that Change.

PS nice to see I was missed, too.

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The speech...my head is still spinning. We will strike, we won't strike, Congress needs to vote, wait, hold off on the vote. They crossed my red line, no, wait, it was Congress' red line, no, the World's red line. We need to do something, but we will leave Assad in office...do you really feel safe????? Are we really going to take Putin's offer seriously???? MY gosh...we are in limbo, er, a diplomatic pause. What a mess.
I agree. I watched the repeat of his speech last night. Pathetic at best. Obama just isn't and never was presidential material. I hope it was worth it to his puppeteers. It's worse than a SNAFU.
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positronium wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody has started a war yet.
Obama is getting heat for trying to start one and we are taking heat for trying to prevent one.
And the libs are trying to sell a war with sympathy as a promotion for it, IMAO
and hasn't that been the Progressive/neo-liberal tactic for EVER?

DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN, etc...

reason, logic, facts, laws, Constitution, morals, Traditional Values, family values, religious values, etc... need NOT apply.

how's that song go? "Feeeee-lings..."

I'm glad to see the chickenhawks now getting on the NON-violence Peace Train, too.lol

where was Putin born?:)
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Jaxxon wrote:
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I think you're probably right that this wasn't exactly the outcome that the administration expected, but the simple fact is that Russia and Syria would not have returned to a diplomatic solution without the credible threat to use force.
The question now is, are they serious and can the administration take advantage of the opportunity?
BTW...you'll have to excuse Chauncey. He's having a little difficulty convincing certain people to post the way he wants them to and it's making him a little uptight....long story.
Be back later.
"credible'... that's rich!lol

you sooooo funny, Jaxx.:)
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Jaxxon wrote:
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"Be careful what you wish for"
LOL...save it for the "opposition" Chauncey.
Like I told you earlier, I'm not impressed and I won't fight with you unless and until I decided the time is right.
You're not likely to control what I have to say with idle threats, name calling and limp wristed attempts at intimidation whether here on the public boards or in private messages.
We agree on some of the issues, but you're not likely to be pleased with the outcome of any confrontation you choose to provoke.
I have some business to attend to and I'll be back later.
Take a little friendly advice and rethink your strategy in the meantime.
;)
cat fight alert!

CAT FIGHT ALERT!!

LOFL!!!
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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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You are welcome. It's nice to see that you are trying to be civil rather than a sarcastic priss.
Rowl! hiss, hiss!!

LOL
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Jaxxon wrote:
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Feel better yet Chauncey?
Maybe if you call me a few more names and tell everyone how smart you are one more time it will make up for whatever shortcoming you appear to be compensating for.
you GO, girl!

er, Jaxx!!

LOL
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While some of you complain and feel like victims of our president, I choose to remember those who died 12 years ago. True patriots don't mock America and our leaders.

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