The President has failed us

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This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

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I never had bypass and you missed the whole point of the discussion.. NTR's first point was more docs per 10,000 patients in socialized nations.. Now it is the cost with our current system compared to socialist countries.. The level of care time and time again the USA has the best care in the world.. If you or anyone wants to give up those standards for socialized care I really don't know what to say..
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I noted that the countries I mentioned had more physicians per capita than our own, and yet, you should be able to acknowledge that they do demonstrate quality healthcare for all at reduced costs. Maybe I'm mistaken, but weren't you one who just flat out stated that doctors would quit the profession? Well, somebody did. The point of that argument disintegrates when you look at the numbers of docs serving those populations under Socialized health care systems. Yes, Canada has fewer per 10,000 of the population but their life expectancy is STILL greater than under our health care system.
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Wendell Potter testimony before the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, June 24, 2009

To help meet Wall Streetís relentless profit expectations, insurers routinely dump policyholders who are less profitable or who get sick. Insurers have several ways to cull the sick from their rolls. One is policy rescission. They look carefully to see if a sick policyholder may have omitted a minor illness, a pre-existing condition, when applying for coverage, and then they use that as justification to cancel the policy, even if the enrollee has never missed a premium payment.

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<quoted text>I noted that the countries I mentioned had more physicians per capita than our own, and yet, you should be able to acknowledge that they do demonstrate quality healthcare for all at reduced costs. Maybe I'm mistaken, but weren't you one who just flat out stated that doctors would quit the profession? Well, somebody did. The point of that argument disintegrates when you look at the numbers of docs serving those populations under Socialized health care systems. Yes, Canada has fewer per 10,000 of the population but their life expectancy is STILL greater than under our health care system.
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<quoted text>I noted that the countries I mentioned had more physicians per capita than our own, and yet, you should be able to acknowledge that they do demonstrate quality healthcare for all at reduced costs. Maybe I'm mistaken, but weren't you one who just flat out stated that doctors would quit the profession? Well, somebody did. The point of that argument disintegrates when you look at the numbers of docs serving those populations under Socialized health care systems. Yes, Canada has fewer per 10,000 of the population but their life expectancy is STILL greater than under our health care system.
A report released in October by Britainís health regulator found that a stunning 20 percent of hospitals were failing to provide the minimum standard of care legally required for elderly patients.

As part of the study, inspectors dropped by dozens of hospitals unannounced. They found patients shouting or banging on bedrails desperately trying to get the attention of a nurse. At one hospital, inspectors identified bed-ridden patients that hadnít been given water for over 10 hours.

The upcoming austerity measures will only amplify maladies like these.

The NHS is broken ó and not in some superficial way that a simple tweak would fix. The incentives are wrong. The governmentís main priority is keeping costs low ó not providing quality care. Patients canít choose how they receive their care ó itís one-size-fits-all medicine. And the entrenched NHS bureaucracy has no reason to improve efficiency.

The problems with ďuniversalĒ health care arenít confined to Britain. Canadaís single-payer, government-run system ó where any private health care is outlawed under the Canada Health Act ó is similarly failing its patients.

The Health Council of Canada recently surveyed over three thousand patients and found that those with chronic illnesses like high blood pressure or heart disease were largely dissatisfied with the medical care they received. Less than half of respondents with such conditions reported that the care they received was excellent or very good.

But arenít they getting it for free? Shouldnít they be grateful?

Not really. Despite the massive taxes Canadians remit to finance universal care, they still must pay out of pocket for some services. Nearly a quarter of chronically ill respondents said that they had skipped their medications or neglected to fill a prescription because it was too expensive.

Further, many Canadians travel to the United States and pay out of pocket for treatments and procedures, as they feel the wait in Canada is too long and harmful to their health.

The American health system is far from perfect. But itís wrong to think that government can fix it. The socialized systems found up North or across the Atlantic are proof. We need more market forces in our medical sector ó not more government controls.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...

Its all right there NTR..

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Who the he11 to you think you are?'all AMERICANS'??? How long have you been impersonating God?
You're a total moron for defending the wealthy unless you're one of them.
Have you ever once in your life asked yourself why you defend them, instead of demanding they pay for their crimes? No, you haven't because you'd hate to take the adult responsibility of thinking for yourself.
post 57471-2 I wrote, "Our liberal leaders are NOT failing us. The American people are FAILING THEM" etc.- Republicans don't have answers to that reality because FOX, etc. didn't tell them what to say about it, so they just run from it.
Post 59621 I challenged idiot right-wingers to watch the video, but you all ran from that too, pathetic little cowards.
My links arenít for right-wing cowards.
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....Impersonating God? How long? I never started actually!

"Defending the wealthy".....WHAT crimes? Most people WORK for their wealth in this country! So working to gain IS now the crime!

So, sir/madame "Protester"...tell us WHO gave you all this knowledge about the, "liberal leaders are NOT failing us" crap-as you say, "republicans do not have answers to reality because Fox" .....?

No one has to tell most kids these days as shown by example-hey I worked for that,"why did YOU just give it to him/her"! Have you not seen this little test performed?

What good is taking most of the money from "YOUR" wealthy people WHEN the commander freely SPENDS money we do not have? Do YOU not understand there is no money tree(I will use your word) moron!?? You cannot keep taking AND not save along the way!

Speaking of God, He says do not feed the lazy! He also says be careful of envy and jealousy! He also warns of pride and greed!

How lazy are you in being envious and jealous of the wealthy who work and are not lazy as YOU take - then act all proud and get greedy wanting more as YOU covet what others have? DONE!!!

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That is blatantly untrue.
It was YOU that criticized the article I posted simply based on where it originated from. The truth must have hit too close to home. I have never criticized a thing you've posted because of it's source even though I may not agree with the content.
Refer to the First Amendment and a little something called Freedom of the Press. There is no stipulation that the Press must exclusively represent either liberal OR conservative views. It includes ALL opinions.
It's YOU who has the attitude of a dictator where everyone is supposed to accept everything you post as "true" and valid just because it's a conservative viewpoint.
It doesn't matter ONE iota what you accept or don't accept.
And again you sound just like a little girl with your "You don't do it, so I won't do it" attitude.
I recognize ALL sources of information because I believe in Freedom of Speech and expression. But I don't have to AGREE with everything I read. No one is forcing you to read or agree with anything. You're simply a stubborn, overbearing b*tch, in my opinion of course. LOL!
Blame me all you want! That is what you enjoy doing!

Bottom line is that YOU and OTHERS have consistently pointed out your total disregard of any conservative sites we utilize.

Call me names! You think I care? That is all you have to do which you enjoy!!!! Poor pitiful you!!

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My gawd, you are ridiculous.
I nor anyone else here HAS to accept a damn thing just because YOU post it. What part of that simple concept do you not understand?
Do you even know what FREEDOM means?
I guess I'm just funny that way. I don't feel compelled to accept anything I don't like, agree with, or find untruthful or that contradicts my own beliefs. And why should I? Just because YOU say so?
You're whining like a three-year-old.
Grow the hell up and adopt an adult-like attitude. EVERYONE here has the right and and the freedom to post ANYTHING from ANY news source no matter who approves of it or not.
Are you dense or just arguing out of your childish need to feel right at all costs?
Post your articles. Who cares how many "Pfffttts" you get? If that's the worst of your complaints, you're more petty than I realized.
Shut up you narrow minded, arrogant witch! Go do something constructive. I am tired of listening to your spew!

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Funny how the unions were a good thing when the mob ran them and got all corrupt when politicians took an active part in them.
The unions themselves have become political as well.. I am glad I never had to join one living in FL..

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<quoted text>We're talking about obama, not about Bush. You have no argument so you resort to what happened in the Bush admin. Classic (but tiresome) liberal tactic. That is water under the bridge. We're talking about 4 US citizens that lost their lives and the president "doesn't know nuthin''bout nuthin'." We're talking about 2 US LE officials murdered and several HUNDRED Mexican citizens that have lost their lives and the president "doesn't know nuthin''bout nuthin'." We're talking about the head of the CIA being investigated MONTHS ago and the president "doesn't know nuthin''bout nuthin'." He doesn't need to be president if he doesn't know what's going on with his own administration.
Yes of course...You also suffer from "blind eye syndrome"...

Bush is a legitimate question...He was the worst president in history and was a big part if the recession we are in today. His support of the atrocity of supply side economics crushed the economy.

Benghazi was a tragedy, but far from a world changing event.

You topix detectives are full of shit, nothing more.

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It is American diet not healthc
Thats most of it but Canada also taxed the cost of smokes up so high most can't afford them.. How does the economic models work if America outlawed everything bad for you and you live till the 90's??

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You're not worth it. Nobody pays any attention to your stupid post anymore except your fellow Obama fans. It's more than obvious that your stuff is all cut & paste. Nor is there any doubt about the source(s). Yes, it might be from Racial Maddog's blog or some other lefty outlet, but there's no doubt that you are grossly biased. You haven't entertained a contrary thought in years. As with most liberals, "open minded" to you means drinking deeply of the far-left koolaid jug.
I, however, am socially 'liberal'(in the classic meaning) but fiscally conservative. Gay rights? Yes, why not? Abortion? Should be legal (it's going to happen regardless, so why not safe as well?). Pot? Legalize it (all over the country, not just certain states).
But I have a brain and I know that borrowing tens of trillions of dollars from our children and grandchildren is not only unworkable, it's immoral. If you count the unfunded promises, we're really talking hundreds of trillions. Do you really have any concept of how much money that is? I don't think you have the smallest notion.
What gives you the right to burden the unborn with a huge debt so you can pass around "benefits" to people you think deserve them? That's literally taking candy from babies. It's irresponsible and shameful.
We are NOT too big to fail. We've wasted far more on social programs than anything else and have NOTHING to show for it. Unless you actually wanted black families ruined, hard drugs, tens of millions of fatherless children and crime. That's ALL we've accomplished. Provide opportunity? Yes, we should. But redistribute to make certain there's an "equal outcome" REGARDLESS of individual behavior? That ruinous and immoral. You feed sloth and irresponsibility by rewarding it, and discourage responsible behavior by penalizing it.[That does NOT mean ending the security net for those who are TRULY disabled, infirm or old!]
This disease will spread. White people are NOT above sitting on their asses and letting someone else care for them, just like anyone else. It's racist to assume otherwise. As the countries of Eastern Europe showed, socialism will result in virtually everyone giving up, sitting back and letting the government flounder. That's the natural HUMAN reaction to a Nanny State. That is happening here and will only increase under Obama. You are foolish to believe otherwise.
Like Obama showed in the first debate, liberals have no clue where our wealth comes from or how it's produced. They think it's an endless fountain and the only problem is re-directing it to target recipients. That child-like thinking. Capitalism produces the excess wealth you leeches are grabbing. Find out how it works and quit pretending it some sort of miracle that we all should just "share". That's just ignorant thinking.
Wake up, think outside your little liberal box and get a brain. And quit posting your cut & paste drivel!
I had to cut some of your propaganda to fit my response. Your lies are still available to the gullible in your original post.
PS - Nobody denies that both parties buy votes with social spending. But the Dems have been the worst offender by a factor of 5X or more. They've now gone totally insane and taken it to levels that will ruin us completely. We are NOT too big to fail!
Great post AND welcome! This is WORTH a re-run on this BEAUTIFUL day the Lord just provided for all! Some will not agree BUT more importantly some will and will accept the encouragement!

We are NOT too big to fail! Never more the truth than now....we are in deep debt, very divided, sadly too many corrupt leaders in VERY high places-this is a recipe for disaster! Too bad we have NO leader at the very top in command of the USA. This could all be solved with "a BACKBONE" to stick with our constitution! DONE!!!!!
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Its funny when entitlement reform is mentioned the dems always claim the pubs are after SS and Medicare and ignore all the other entitlements.. Before a single dollar is cut from seniors EIC should be ended or cut in at least half or more..
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all this past election shows and confirms is that the majority of American voters are soooo beholding to the FG/govt for something that all it took was for Obama to mention (NOT prove) that 'the other guy' was gonna take _______ FROM YOU, and he won enough scared people's votes to win.
the exit polls this to be FACT. Q1: who do u think can do a better job fixing our economy? A1: Romney (the MAJORITY answered)
Q2: who did u vote for? A2: Obama. GO FIGURE!
Obama got the vast majority of the Hispanic vote. Obama stands for some form of AMNESTY. Romney TRIED to move to the middle/Obama ground... too late. conclusion: the vast majority of Hispanic American CITIZENS support/want AMNESTY. in other words, they support LAW BREAKERS. as do ALL Prog Dem and Reps (see Bush and McCain, for example).
evidently, since the vast majority of Hispanics are also Catholics and therefore, by extension, are Pro Life, yet they still voted with/for the god-less, Pro Abortion Prog Dems. must be AMNESTY trumps even God and religion!
the majority of American voters are either very, VERY confused or are easily scared. the campaign of the incumbent WAS mostly orchestrated confusion and mass-marketed scare tactics... and very, VERY effective. Kudos to Obama and the Prog/Dems.
we shall see how the national campaign fares in the local Congressional races....
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Funny how the unions were a good thing when the mob ran them and got all corrupt when politicians took an active part in them.
with the Mob, it was all BUSINESS.
with the pols, it's IDEOLOGY.
the Mob is ANTI-Socialist/Communist
the pols... well, look WHO they support.

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Blame me all you want! That is what you enjoy doing!
Bottom line is that YOU and OTHERS have consistently pointed out your total disregard of any conservative sites we utilize.
Call me names! You think I care? That is all you have to do which you enjoy!!!! Poor pitiful you!!
I have NEVER criticized anything you posted based on it being a "conservative site." You lie.

Now, if you have issues with others about that, then whine to them. You're annoying the hell out of me.

Grow up, you big baby. You start chit with people, then when you don't get your way, you start whining.

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Blame me all you want! That is what you enjoy doing!
Bottom line is that YOU and OTHERS have consistently pointed out your total disregard of any conservative sites we utilize.
Call me names! You think I care? That is all you have to do which you enjoy!!!! Poor pitiful you!!
She cares all right. She does this because what you say is destructive to her agenda and the same agenda of her cohorts. She is trying to quell your freedom of speech with ridicule.

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Shut up you narrow minded, arrogant witch! Go do something constructive. I am tired of listening to your spew!
Hahahahah! Really struck a nerve didn't I?

And you dare accuse me of name calling?

I initially replied to YOUR comment to me about the Salon site. You dish it but you get extremely angry when the truth bites you in the butt.

I've been tired of your bullchit for weeks, and that's why I stopped posting to you. But you can't seem to give it up and move on, you stupid cow. LOL!

Now go cry a river like the big baby you are.
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<quoted text>People thinking about secession aren't thinking about the other millions of state residents who sure as h*ll aren't wanting to secede. I think the battle starts there. You neighbors want no part of your silly plan.
when and if it ever comes to pass, it will NOT be because the FG says 'okay'. or don't u agree with that?
it will be by POPULAR, MAJORITY vote of the individual citizens in each State and their governments. those that want to, they can move to more 'fertile' grounds, if u get my meaning. that will leave the supporters and THE WILLING.
c'mon WorkFare!
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Thats most of it but Canada also taxed the cost of smokes up so high most can't afford them.. How does the economic models work if America outlawed everything bad for you and you live till the 90's??
Eagle
some time in the past two yrs, a Scandanvian country (Sweden?) released a study of its HC costs. guess which demographic cost the MOST? the HEALTHY ONES. then the obese. THEN SMOKERS!!!!
healthy folks live longer and die SLOWER. scary facts, no?
shoots the hell out of the war on fatties and smokers, tho!lol

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all this past election shows and confirms is that the majority of American voters are soooo beholding to the FG/govt for something that all it took was for Obama to mention (NOT prove) that 'the other guy' was gonna take _______ FROM YOU, and he won enough scared people's votes to win.
the exit polls this to be FACT. Q1: who do u think can do a better job fixing our economy? A1: Romney (the MAJORITY answered)
Q2: who did u vote for? A2: Obama. GO FIGURE!
Obama got the vast majority of the Hispanic vote. Obama stands for some form of AMNESTY. Romney TRIED to move to the middle/Obama ground... too late. conclusion: the vast majority of Hispanic American CITIZENS support/want AMNESTY. in other words, they support LAW BREAKERS. as do ALL Prog Dem and Reps (see Bush and McCain, for example).
evidently, since the vast majority of Hispanics are also Catholics and therefore, by extension, are Pro Life, yet they still voted with/for the god-less, Pro Abortion Prog Dems. must be AMNESTY trumps even God and religion!
the majority of American voters are either very, VERY confused or are easily scared. the campaign of the incumbent WAS mostly orchestrated confusion and mass-marketed scare tactics... and very, VERY effective. Kudos to Obama and the Prog/Dems.
we shall see how the national campaign fares in the local Congressional races....
Other than the cuban hispanic vote the pubs will never get the rest of the hispanic's.. They just as well quit trying to pander to them in my opinion.. Well you know how the election went and as the economy gets worse the pubs have a chance in 2014 and 2016.. I still think when obamacare fully kcks in there will be alot of Americans upset with the outcome.. JMO..

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<quoted text>Sugar, darlin', dumplin, dear - they didn't just bring your bags. The last flight into Bluegrass Field today was at 6:30 p.m. LOL Everything else is a departure. So, did your "stuff" show up in a limo?
Well, past my bedtime. You take care, ya' heah?
Sugar, darlin, dumplin, dear..........I was long gone from BGF by 6:30pm. We were only there for an hour or so AND yep....you know what at the time you said it, "no I was not in Lexington, you were correct BUT I never said I was at that time either!

Why would in your words, "your stuff" show up in a limo? Actually, it was an airport shuttle van and our "stuff" was our luggage! It arrived at our home here safely! Delivered just as airport personal had promised!

You insulted........I bear the news YOU do not want to hear or are interested in! I do not act trashy, so I do not insult in a "trashy way" like YOU do!

You have an excellent week, and a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING...... "ya' heah"(your words)!

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