The President has failed us

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election. Read more
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#61986 Nov 18, 2012
aero wrote:
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You're not worth it. Nobody pays any attention to your stupid post anymore except your fellow Obama fans. It's more than obvious that your stuff is all cut & paste. Nor is there any doubt about the source(s). Yes, it might be from Racial Maddog's blog or some other lefty outlet, but there's no doubt that you are grossly biased. You haven't entertained a contrary thought in years. As with most liberals, "open minded" to you means drinking deeply of the far-left koolaid jug.
I, however, am socially 'liberal'(in the classic meaning) but fiscally conservative. Gay rights? Yes, why not? Abortion? Should be legal (it's going to happen regardless, so why not safe as well?). Pot? Legalize it (all over the country, not just certain states).
But I have a brain and I know that borrowing tens of trillions of dollars from our children and grandchildren is not only unworkable, it's immoral. If you count the unfunded promises, we're really talking hundreds of trillions. Do you really have any concept of how much money that is? I don't think you have the smallest notion.
What gives you the right to burden the unborn with a huge debt so you can pass around "benefits" to people you think deserve them? That's literally taking candy from babies. It's irresponsible and shameful.
We are NOT too big to fail. We've wasted far more on social programs than anything else and have NOTHING to show for it. Unless you actually wanted black families ruined, hard drugs, tens of millions of fatherless children and crime. That's ALL we've accomplished. Provide opportunity? Yes, we should. But redistribute to make certain there's an "equal outcome" REGARDLESS of individual behavior? That ruinous and immoral. You feed sloth and irresponsibility by rewarding it, and discourage responsible behavior by penalizing it.[That does NOT mean ending the security net for those who are TRULY disabled, infirm or old!]
This disease will spread. White people are NOT above sitting on their asses and letting someone else care for them, just like anyone else. It's racist to assume otherwise. As the countries of Eastern Europe showed, socialism will result in virtually everyone giving up, sitting back and letting the government flounder. That's the natural HUMAN reaction to a Nanny State. That is happening here and will only increase under Obama. You are foolish to believe otherwise.
Like Obama showed in the first debate, liberals have no clue where our wealth comes from or how it's produced. They think it's an endless fountain and the only problem is re-directing it to target recipients. That child-like thinking. Capitalism produces the excess wealth you leeches are grabbing. Find out how it works and quit pretending it some sort of miracle that we all should just "share". That's just ignorant thinking.
Wake up, think outside your little liberal box and get a brain. And quit posting your cut & paste drivel!
I had to cut some of your propaganda to fit my response. Your lies are still available to the gullible in your original post.
PS - Nobody denies that both parties buy votes with social spending. But the Dems have been the worst offender by a factor of 5X or more. They've now gone totally insane and taken it to levels that will ruin us completely. We are NOT too big to fail!
Great post AND welcome! This is WORTH a re-run on this BEAUTIFUL day the Lord just provided for all! Some will not agree BUT more importantly some will and will accept the encouragement!

We are NOT too big to fail! Never more the truth than now....we are in deep debt, very divided, sadly too many corrupt leaders in VERY high places-this is a recipe for disaster! Too bad we have NO leader at the very top in command of the USA. This could all be solved with "a BACKBONE" to stick with our constitution! DONE!!!!!
higgans

Marion, IN

#61987 Nov 18, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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Its funny when entitlement reform is mentioned the dems always claim the pubs are after SS and Medicare and ignore all the other entitlements.. Before a single dollar is cut from seniors EIC should be ended or cut in at least half or more..
Eagle
all this past election shows and confirms is that the majority of American voters are soooo beholding to the FG/govt for something that all it took was for Obama to mention (NOT prove) that 'the other guy' was gonna take _______ FROM YOU, and he won enough scared people's votes to win.
the exit polls this to be FACT. Q1: who do u think can do a better job fixing our economy? A1: Romney (the MAJORITY answered)
Q2: who did u vote for? A2: Obama. GO FIGURE!
Obama got the vast majority of the Hispanic vote. Obama stands for some form of AMNESTY. Romney TRIED to move to the middle/Obama ground... too late. conclusion: the vast majority of Hispanic American CITIZENS support/want AMNESTY. in other words, they support LAW BREAKERS. as do ALL Prog Dem and Reps (see Bush and McCain, for example).
evidently, since the vast majority of Hispanics are also Catholics and therefore, by extension, are Pro Life, yet they still voted with/for the god-less, Pro Abortion Prog Dems. must be AMNESTY trumps even God and religion!
the majority of American voters are either very, VERY confused or are easily scared. the campaign of the incumbent WAS mostly orchestrated confusion and mass-marketed scare tactics... and very, VERY effective. Kudos to Obama and the Prog/Dems.
we shall see how the national campaign fares in the local Congressional races....
higgans

Marion, IN

#61988 Nov 18, 2012
Brad wrote:
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Funny how the unions were a good thing when the mob ran them and got all corrupt when politicians took an active part in them.
with the Mob, it was all BUSINESS.
with the pols, it's IDEOLOGY.
the Mob is ANTI-Socialist/Communist
the pols... well, look WHO they support.

Since: Jun 10

San Jose, CA

#61989 Nov 18, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
<quoted text>
Blame me all you want! That is what you enjoy doing!
Bottom line is that YOU and OTHERS have consistently pointed out your total disregard of any conservative sites we utilize.
Call me names! You think I care? That is all you have to do which you enjoy!!!! Poor pitiful you!!
I have NEVER criticized anything you posted based on it being a "conservative site." You lie.

Now, if you have issues with others about that, then whine to them. You're annoying the hell out of me.

Grow up, you big baby. You start chit with people, then when you don't get your way, you start whining.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#61990 Nov 18, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
<quoted text>
Blame me all you want! That is what you enjoy doing!
Bottom line is that YOU and OTHERS have consistently pointed out your total disregard of any conservative sites we utilize.
Call me names! You think I care? That is all you have to do which you enjoy!!!! Poor pitiful you!!
She cares all right. She does this because what you say is destructive to her agenda and the same agenda of her cohorts. She is trying to quell your freedom of speech with ridicule.

Since: Jun 10

San Jose, CA

#61991 Nov 18, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
<quoted text>
Shut up you narrow minded, arrogant witch! Go do something constructive. I am tired of listening to your spew!
Hahahahah! Really struck a nerve didn't I?

And you dare accuse me of name calling?

I initially replied to YOUR comment to me about the Salon site. You dish it but you get extremely angry when the truth bites you in the butt.

I've been tired of your bullchit for weeks, and that's why I stopped posting to you. But you can't seem to give it up and move on, you stupid cow. LOL!

Now go cry a river like the big baby you are.
higgans

Marion, IN

#61992 Nov 18, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>People thinking about secession aren't thinking about the other millions of state residents who sure as h*ll aren't wanting to secede. I think the battle starts there. You neighbors want no part of your silly plan.
when and if it ever comes to pass, it will NOT be because the FG says 'okay'. or don't u agree with that?
it will be by POPULAR, MAJORITY vote of the individual citizens in each State and their governments. those that want to, they can move to more 'fertile' grounds, if u get my meaning. that will leave the supporters and THE WILLING.
c'mon WorkFare!
higgans

Marion, IN

#61993 Nov 18, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats most of it but Canada also taxed the cost of smokes up so high most can't afford them.. How does the economic models work if America outlawed everything bad for you and you live till the 90's??
Eagle
some time in the past two yrs, a Scandanvian country (Sweden?) released a study of its HC costs. guess which demographic cost the MOST? the HEALTHY ONES. then the obese. THEN SMOKERS!!!!
healthy folks live longer and die SLOWER. scary facts, no?
shoots the hell out of the war on fatties and smokers, tho!lol

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#61995 Nov 18, 2012
higgans wrote:
<quoted text>
all this past election shows and confirms is that the majority of American voters are soooo beholding to the FG/govt for something that all it took was for Obama to mention (NOT prove) that 'the other guy' was gonna take _______ FROM YOU, and he won enough scared people's votes to win.
the exit polls this to be FACT. Q1: who do u think can do a better job fixing our economy? A1: Romney (the MAJORITY answered)
Q2: who did u vote for? A2: Obama. GO FIGURE!
Obama got the vast majority of the Hispanic vote. Obama stands for some form of AMNESTY. Romney TRIED to move to the middle/Obama ground... too late. conclusion: the vast majority of Hispanic American CITIZENS support/want AMNESTY. in other words, they support LAW BREAKERS. as do ALL Prog Dem and Reps (see Bush and McCain, for example).
evidently, since the vast majority of Hispanics are also Catholics and therefore, by extension, are Pro Life, yet they still voted with/for the god-less, Pro Abortion Prog Dems. must be AMNESTY trumps even God and religion!
the majority of American voters are either very, VERY confused or are easily scared. the campaign of the incumbent WAS mostly orchestrated confusion and mass-marketed scare tactics... and very, VERY effective. Kudos to Obama and the Prog/Dems.
we shall see how the national campaign fares in the local Congressional races....
Other than the cuban hispanic vote the pubs will never get the rest of the hispanic's.. They just as well quit trying to pander to them in my opinion.. Well you know how the election went and as the economy gets worse the pubs have a chance in 2014 and 2016.. I still think when obamacare fully kcks in there will be alot of Americans upset with the outcome.. JMO..

Eagle
whatthehey

Austin, TX

#61996 Nov 18, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Sugar, darlin', dumplin, dear - they didn't just bring your bags. The last flight into Bluegrass Field today was at 6:30 p.m. LOL Everything else is a departure. So, did your "stuff" show up in a limo?
Well, past my bedtime. You take care, ya' heah?
Sugar, darlin, dumplin, dear..........I was long gone from BGF by 6:30pm. We were only there for an hour or so AND yep....you know what at the time you said it, "no I was not in Lexington, you were correct BUT I never said I was at that time either!

Why would in your words, "your stuff" show up in a limo? Actually, it was an airport shuttle van and our "stuff" was our luggage! It arrived at our home here safely! Delivered just as airport personal had promised!

You insulted........I bear the news YOU do not want to hear or are interested in! I do not act trashy, so I do not insult in a "trashy way" like YOU do!

You have an excellent week, and a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING...... "ya' heah"(your words)!

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#61997 Nov 18, 2012
higgans wrote:
<quoted text>
some time in the past two yrs, a Scandanvian country (Sweden?) released a study of its HC costs. guess which demographic cost the MOST? the HEALTHY ONES. then the obese. THEN SMOKERS!!!!
healthy folks live longer and die SLOWER. scary facts, no?
shoots the hell out of the war on fatties and smokers, tho!lol
Oh I believe healthy people live longer and this country based its SS plan on people not living as long.. Me I figure I am going to see a hundred.. LOL..

Eagle

Since: Jun 10

San Jose, CA

#61998 Nov 18, 2012
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>She cares all right. She does this because what you say is destructive to her agenda and the same agenda of her cohorts. She is trying to quell your freedom of speech with ridicule.
That's a lie, but then you proved the point of the article I posted about conservatives being liars.

I didn't post to "Are You Kidding" until she posted to me with her silly criticism about the Salon site.

I have no agenda, and nothing you or what's her face is a threat to anyone here. And for you to allege that I'm trying to quell hers or anyone's Freedom of Speech after what I just posted on that subject makes you extremely dishonest.

I have no interest or desire to quell anyone's Freedom of Speech, and I attempted no such thing, you hateful liar. I see you can't handle the truth either, so you pile on like the little boy you are instead of having the guts to address me directly. So predictable.

What makes you conservatives so dishonest and immature anyway?

Since: Jun 10

San Jose, CA

#61999 Nov 18, 2012
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>She cares all right. She does this because what you say is destructive to her agenda and the same agenda of her cohorts. She is trying to quell your freedom of speech with ridicule.
Note the following post, liar. And no, I do not care what anyone posts or what the source is. I'm not the one criticizing news sites out of pettiness.

Wild Irish Rose wrote:

That is blatantly untrue.

It was YOU that criticized the article I posted simply based on where it originated from. The truth must have hit too close to home. I have never criticized a thing you've posted because of it's source even though I may not agree with the content.

Refer to the First Amendment and a little something called Freedom of the Press. There is no stipulation that the Press must exclusively represent either liberal OR conservative views. It includes ALL opinions.

It's YOU who has the attitude of a dictator where everyone is supposed to accept everything you post as "true" and valid just because it's a conservative viewpoint.

It doesn't matter ONE iota what you accept or don't accept.

And again you sound just like a little girl with your "You don't do it, so I won't do it" attitude.

I recognize ALL sources of information because I believe in Freedom of Speech and expression. But I don't have to AGREE with everything I read. No one is forcing you to read or agree with anything. You're simply a stubborn, overbearing b*tch, in my opinion of course. LOL!

“Natural selection created apes”

Since: Jun 10

Religion made them human

#62000 Nov 18, 2012
Hellywood wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm Canadian and your numbers simply not true. Like most Americans, you do not understand our health care system. Let me clear up some misunderstandings you have. Number 1, we have private health care options. Our system is multi-tiered. Number 2, wait times for surgeries (non-life threatening) is 8 weeks, not 18. Number 3, it is not a "socialist" health care system. It is universal, meaning poor people just get the basics. You are not forced to have top-end insurance. I have 100% benefits coverage through my employer. Only about 35% of people in Canada are fully covered like this. Americans have way too many misconceptions about Canadian health care. Its a way better system than America has. We don't let poor people die.
Good stuff. By law, hospitals are required to treat emergencies even if the patient is uninsured. The problem is that people are left with a catastrophic hospital bill that will likely break the family's finances. Medical debt is by far the greatest single reason for bankruptcies in the US.

Then there is the uninsured working poor who uses the emergency room to treat chronic diseases that could have been detected [and perhaps, prevented] by regular screenings at the family doctor's office.

Both of these individuals (uninsured emergency treatment & treatment of chronic disease) will likely cost society many times over the cost of health insurance for just that single visit to the emergency room.

But hey, it's water under the bridge now - Obamacare is the law of the land.

“Natural selection created apes”

Since: Jun 10

Religion made them human

#62001 Nov 18, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>That's the point of contention about ALL social welfare programs we have in place to which the looney's stand in opposition. It's their obvious position that poor people can just die and go the Hell for all they care. This is why I do not have any respect for them, because in direct contrast to the thought that "Poor is not lesser and rich is not better", they believe the exact opposite while frequently calling themselves Christians. They give Christians a bad name, and until recently, I had been almost intimidated to speak of being Christian for fear of being associated with that kind of idiot hater.
The common thread throughout the complaints from the right side of reason is that if you weren't born "lucky" or you didn't score in the market on your investments, or you weren't hired on to a top corporation or have a highly successful small business, you aren't worth life itself. You should just die and get out of their ways.
I find this inhumanity puke worthy, but even more particularly so because we live in on of the world's richest nations. We go around the world talking about human rights and endeavoring to preserve them or grow them in other lands, but here we have a sizable number of so-called Americans who don't give a ratz' azz about their fellow Americans and other human beings who were not as fortunate or talented or financially successful.
You go girl! But you know what? They still don't get it. LOL!

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#62002 Nov 18, 2012
fishaholic wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the ignorant fool who thinks THAT many are so disabled they can't shop for themselves and have people shop for them. You libturds always seem to have an excuse for big gov't spending on entitlements while turning a blind eye to fraud and freeloading. Then, you turn around and want to tax the crap out of the rich and eventually, everyone else to keep up the bloated spending. Never once has any of you liberal turds talked about SERIOUSLY rooting out fraud waste and abuse to these programs. The first thing is always 'we need more money', and never we need to cut out the waste and really crack down on the abusers. Until I see a real concerted effort to crack down on all the fraudsters, my view of these bloated, democratic championed programs won't change as a way of buying votes to keep getting reelected and at the same time getting people used to gov't dependency.
"Never once has any of you liberal turds talked about SERIOUSLY rooting out fraud waste and abuse to these programs."

Completely wrong. Nobody of any political persuasion is happy about fraud and corruption. In fact, I've read almost everybody who posts here say at one time or another that we need to eliminate fraud in our social welfare programs. I've even pointed out that under Obama, more fraud is being detected and prosecuted with respect to Medicare and Medicaid:

Authorities uncover $429 million in Medicare fraud

By Paige Winfield Cunningham

Thursday, October 4, 2012

In a widespread crackdown on Medicare fraud, the Justice Department has charged 91 people with billing the federal insurance program $429 million in phony claims, officials said Thursday.

Individuals in seven cities across the country have been indicted for cheating Medicare out of money for a range of health care services. The largest bulk of false claims included more than $230 million for home health care, followed by claims for mental health care and ambulance transportation.

Read more: Authorities uncover $429 million in Medicare fraud - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
..........

Feds charge 107 people in $452 million Medicare fraud crackdown

May 2, 2012
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-574264... -$452-million-medicare-fraud-c rackdown/

(CBS News) In the biggest crackdown of Medicare fraud in history, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Wednesday that the Medicare Fraud Strike Force had uncovered $452 million dollars worth of false billings in seven cities across the nation.

More than 100 people have been arrested in relation to the fraud, including doctors, nurses and social workers.

"This is the highest amount of alleged false Medicare billings involved in a single takedown in the Strike Force's five-year history," said Holder, speaking alongside Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

Sebelius, who credited the Affordable Care Act with strengthening the ability to go after Medicare fraud, said "no one who has been part of an illegal scheme can keep cashing in."

Among the alleged practices used to defraud Medicare include health care providers busing in homeless people who never got treatment and ambulance companies charging for bogus emergencies.

In one scheme, workers at two community health centers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana falsified patient signatures and treatment notes in order to fraudulently bill Medicare for $225 million dollars in medical services that were never received.

“Natural selection created apes”

Since: Jun 10

Religion made them human

#62003 Nov 18, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>How many names are you juggling on this thread? Three? More? How about you stick to one name and stop boring everybody under your multiple IDs, fruitcake?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T... #
LOL! So "whatthehey" from Round Rock, Tx., is the same as "American Lady" from Danville, Ky? LOL!
whatthehey wrote:
<quoted text> Great post!...meant to say HELLO to you earlier AND welcome! IF you are in Ky. as it says....love Ky. It is beautiful WAS just at BLUEGRASS FIELD in Lex. earlier!
Good- night!
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Do "you" comprehend MUCH ???
WHAT about THIS do "you" NOT understand ???
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"It is beautiful WAS just at BLUEGRASS FIELD in Lex. earlier!" said wth.
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Earlier WAS a long time BEFORE NOW!!!!!!
dumchit!!!:)
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

So.., which one of the two was at the Lexington airport? LOL!

“Natural selection created apes”

Since: Jun 10

Religion made them human

#62005 Nov 18, 2012
REWBA wrote:
<quoted text>
Predictions are based upon past events. It's not like we haven't had states secede in the past. Look at the last time states seceded and chances are, what took place in the past will happen again should states choose to secede in the future.
Men who had careers in the military mad a choice. Stay with the Union or secede with the south. Those who went with the traitors fell off payroll. Those who stuck with the Union continued to receive pay and benefits.
Southern businessmen with assets in the north watched as their northern assets were seized by the Union. We didn't give those assets back after the war. Southerners made a choice and so they reap what they sow.
American citizens who reside abroad are called expats and they continue to receive social security and retirement pay as long as they maintain a stateside mailing address but there is a difference between traveling abroad and dissolving all ties through secession.
Residents of seceding states either choose to move and remain a US citizen or they become foreigners with no right to benefits reserved for citizens.
That is something that the people of those states aught to consider before allowing ignorant talibaggers to drag them into a secession.
Here in the USA, we don't take too kindly to traitors and tyrants. You don't get out unscathed. Blood in Blood out.
Let them secede! Let them also take their share of the national debt with them.

“Natural selection created apes”

Since: Jun 10

Religion made them human

#62006 Nov 18, 2012
Freespirit8 wrote:
<quoted text>
At the same time juggling my polo pony farm, and my position as honorary consul to India!
Happy Diwali!

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#62007 Nov 18, 2012
whatthehey wrote:
<quoted text>Sugar, darlin, dumplin, dear..........I was long gone from BGF by 6:30pm. We were only there for an hour or so AND yep....you know what at the time you said it, "no I was not in Lexington, you were correct BUT I never said I was at that time either!
Why would in your words, "your stuff" show up in a limo? Actually, it was an airport shuttle van and our "stuff" was our luggage! It arrived at our home here safely! Delivered just as airport personal had promised!
You insulted........I bear the news YOU do not want to hear or are interested in! I do not act trashy, so I do not insult in a "trashy way" like YOU do!
You have an excellent week, and a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING...... "ya' heah"(your words)!
So, exactly how many posters are you? Republican Honey who created her registered account while on vacation in Florida and who had no idea why her proxy software was bouncing across the country, or are you American Lady who pretends to be in Danville? Are you Razor's Edge and Higgans too? I mean you have more names and covers than Carter had little liver pills, and yet here you are talking about receiving your lost luggage at almost 2:00 a.m. in the morning when the last flight in at Blue Grass field arrived at 6:30 p.m.- about the same time you were "gone"? Listen, liar, since no other flights were incoming thereafter, nobody else could have picked up your "lost" luggage and brought it to you even if they recovered it from the flight you arrived on (snowball's chance in Hell since you were "waiting"), and it would have reached you within a few hours. This isn't NYC or L.A. Get real.

Now, please don't bother me with anymore of your lying sick pathetic character impersonations. They ALL stink. You're a friggin' idiot no matter what three or four ID's you're using simultaneously or concurrently. You must be extremely desperate to back yourself up. God knows no rational human being could support your miserable mean-spirited self-absorbed posts. You are either that plagiarizing piglet from Plainfield or her twin sister.

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