The President has failed us

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election. Full Story
aero

Nassau, Bahamas

#61832 Nov 18, 2012
Obama Sucks wrote:
Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement
A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.
The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.
http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/index.p...
Another example of liberals rewarding sloth and irresponsible behavior, while simultaneously punishing saving, thrift and thinking ahead. If you saved in your IRA or 401k, it'll be "nationalized" to cover those who partied, wasted and did not save one damn dime.

If this happens, it's open warfare on those who've followed the rules, saved for their future and been prudent. It's naked vote buying and outright theft. All that's lacking is a dark alley, a handgun and a government official in a mask robbing Joe Citizen of his wallet. Just what you'd expect from Obama.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#61836 Nov 18, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Larry,Chill out,

Obama Voters,

I hope they are paying attention. Attention to
the job losses. Go ahead and tax the rich because the middle class is next when
you find out it won't fix the deficit. Maybe save some money by cutting out all
the Czars. The Special Committee that can't balance the budget. Cut Congress pay
since they can't seem to do their job. Cut the oversight committee that doesn't
get anything done either. How about cutting the Government jobs
that the people do not need instead of the programs they do use?

nationaljournal.com
Can you stop cutting and pasting and make an argument in your own words?

Think for yourself.

Were you this critical of the Bush crime family when he began shipping and giving huge tax breaks to companies that move overseas?

Prolly not.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#61839 Nov 18, 2012
Obama Sucks wrote:
Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama AdministrationÂ’s effort to nationalize the nationÂ’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRAÂ’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor DepartmentÂ’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.
http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/index.p...
Oh, you mean like when Bush tried to privatize social security?

Were you outraged then?

“Je Suis Charlie”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#61840 Nov 18, 2012
aero wrote:
<quoted text>
.....(needed space)
I, however, am socially 'liberal'(in the classic meaning) but fiscally conservative. Gay rights? Yes, why not? Abortion? Should be legal (it's going to happen regardless, so why not safe as well?). Pot? Legalize it (all over the country, not just certain states).
But I have a brain and I know that borrowing tens of trillions of dollars from our children and grandchildren is not only unworkable, it's immoral. If you count the unfunded promises, we're really talking hundreds of trillions. Do you really have any concept of how much money that is? I don't think you have the smallest notion.
What gives you the right to burden the unborn with a huge debt so you can pass around "benefits" to people you think deserve them? That's literally taking candy from babies. It's irresponsible and shameful.
We are NOT too big to fail. We've wasted far more on social programs than anything else and have NOTHING to show for it. Unless you actually wanted black families ruined, hard drugs, tens of millions of fatherless children and crime. That's ALL we've accomplished. Provide opportunity? Yes, we should. But redistribute to make certain there's an "equal outcome" REGARDLESS of individual behavior? That ruinous and immoral. You feed sloth and irresponsibility by rewarding it, and discourage responsible behavior by penalizing it.[That does NOT mean ending the security net for those who are TRULY disabled, infirm or old!]
This disease will spread. White people are NOT above sitting on their asses and letting someone else care for them, just like anyone else. It's racist to assume otherwise. As the countries of Eastern Europe showed, socialism will result in virtually everyone giving up, sitting back and letting the government flounder. That's the natural HUMAN reaction to a Nanny State. That is happening here and will only increase under Obama. You are foolish to believe otherwise.
Like Obama showed in the first debate, liberals have no clue where our wealth comes from or how it's produced. They think it's an endless fountain and the only problem is re-directing it to target recipients. That child-like thinking. Capitalism produces the excess wealth you leeches are grabbing. Find out how it works and quit pretending it some sort of miracle that we all should just "share". That's just ignorant thinking.
Wake up, think outside your little liberal box and get a brain. And quit posting your cut & paste drivel!
I had to cut some of your propaganda to fit my response. Your lies are still available to the gullible in your original post.
PS - Nobody denies that both parties buy votes with social spending. But the Dems have been the worst offender by a factor of 5X or more. They've now gone totally insane and taken it to levels that will ruin us completely. We are NOT too big to fail!
Lots of rhetoric here, troll. But, how did you ever come to the conclusion that I want to stick our children and grandchildren with debt? Is this just something you thought you should say to make yourself look good and me like the bad guy? Seems to be exactly that.

Your reply is less informative and less interesting by far than the cut and paste that so annoys you. The Dems, the Pubs - six of one, half dozen of another. It all depends on the ethics of the man or woman in office. Who are you to judge how liberals think? Since you aren't liberal, I venture to say you don't know what "they" think, nor do you read minds well. Just a fact.

Who said we're too big to fail? Another fantasy of yours with the intent to put words in other poster's mouths. Garbage. I "feed sloth and irresponsibility by rewarding it"? WTF are you talking about. This is nothing other than defamatory boolsheet and without any merit whatsoever. I hope you got that temper tantrum out of your system. I, for one, think it was totally ineffective and dumb as h*ll. Swing, batter, batter, batter. Swing!
ima

El Paso, TX

#61841 Nov 18, 2012
Obama Sucks wrote:
"We've Heard It All Before" (Extended Cut)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fZgQhnNRSuwXX&feature=sha re
Obamacare's Impact on Families
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Obamacare's Impact on Doctors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Small Business Owner Fears Obamacare's Impact on Jobs and Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Small Business Owner on Obamacare: Every Restaurant You Eat At Is Impacted Negatively
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Report: Doctors quit on Obamacare
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
THE DICTATOR IN CHIEF DOES SUCK, too bad TOO MANY HAVE LOST RESPECT for the inhabitant in our White House.

“Battle of Killiecrankie”

Since: Mar 12

Knightswood, Scotland

#61843 Nov 18, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text> THE DICTATOR IN CHIEF DOES SUCK, too bad TOO MANY HAVE LOST RESPECT for the inhabitant in our White House.
Everyone has the right to be ugly, but you abuse the privilege ya boggin nyaff.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#61844 Nov 18, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text>THE DICTATOR IN CHIEF DOES SUCK, too bad TOO MANY HAVE LOST RESPECT for the inhabitant in our White House.
Explain.

“Je Suis Charlie”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#61846 Nov 18, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
<quoted text>
And Canada only has 20 per 10,000.. The point is I am sure if the docs and HC workers were turned into government employees the numbers will rise.. But if you think the cost of HC is high now just imagine how much it would be then.. How would you propose to pay for such a program??
Eagle
The same way all of those other countries pay for theirs. Here's how Canada does it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_C...

Why Does the U.S. Spend More on Health Care than Other Countries?

Everyone knows that the U.S. spends far more on health care than other countries, but do you know how much more? In 2009, the U.S. spent 17.4% of GDP on health care (using OECD data). The closest contenders are Netherlands (12% of GDP), France (11.8%), Germany (11.6%), Denmark (11.5%), and Canada (11.4%). The U.S. has higher per capita GDP than these countries, so the gap in absolute spending is even higher. In 2009, the U.S. spent $7,960 per person on health care, and the closest contenders were Switzerland ($5,144 per person) and Netherlands ($4,914).

(cont.)

We have a "for profit" health care system. We shouldn't.

http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.com/2012...

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#61847 Nov 18, 2012
Obama Sucks wrote:
Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement
A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.
The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.
http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/index.p...
Unlike Republicans who FEAR checking out liberal links, I not only read the article, I critiqued it.
It was full of opinion, presented as facts, but without ANY proof at all.
It's an old article, designed to panic idiot conservatives into donating, and I guess they figured if it made money once, it will again.
It seems that if any of the author's predictions had come true, he would've included that, but there was nothing said.
Bottom line:
It's the same old conservative garbage = People are trying to profit by lying to dumb people, getting them angry at liberals to keep stepping up the Republican Civil War, panicking them about what 'will' happen because liberals are out to destroy them, etc.
The point of the article will escape every conservative: The rich traitors are still working to destroy the middle class (and the USA), with the help of the conservative middle class traitors.

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#61848 Nov 18, 2012

Since: Jun 10

Fremont, CA

#61849 Nov 18, 2012
higgans wrote:
<quoted text>
u conveniently left out blending INTO ONE (AMERICAN).
nice try, tho.:)
I didn't leave that out at all. I was replying to the subject of the previous comment. Read it again instead of trying to manipulate and distort what I posted for your own ego. And I didn't "conveniently" leave out anything.

Note: "Our unique American culture IS founded upon "multiculturalism."

And "being UNITED as a country with common goals for the common good."

--Wild Irish Rose--- wrote:
<quoted text>
Our "unique American culture" IS founded upon "multiculturalism."
What do you think Italians, Germans, Irish, Hispanics, Africans, Asians, etc. brought to this country?
Being a "multi-party system" as you call it is NOT what makes America what it is--that's simply part of the political system and government.
As always, you don't know what you're saying and apparently don't think before posting. You contradicted your own nonsense.
The "melting pot" means a blending of many different cultures.
I don't see this country being destroyed at all based on different ideologies. That's a fundamental part of what America is all about--the right to different opinions, beliefs while still being UNITED as a country with common goals for the common good.

Since: Jun 10

Fremont, CA

#61850 Nov 18, 2012
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>With you reasoning is impossible as is any meaningful conversation whatsoever.
I disagree. You're wrong so you post silly and childish insults in a condescending manner.

It's YOU who has reasoning problems, and you can't handle it when it's pointed out to you.

Since: Jun 10

Fremont, CA

#61851 Nov 18, 2012
positronium wrote:
Our president will continue to fail our nation regardless of winning an election.
I disagree, and that's a highly unreasonable statement given the fact he has just been elected, and you have no idea what will happen in the next four years.

But given your bias and prejudice AGAINST Obama you will choose to spread that propaganda no matter what he does or doesn't do. It's so predictable of you.

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#61852 Nov 18, 2012
Obama Sucks wrote:
"We've Heard It All Before" (Extended Cut)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fZgQhnNRSuwXX&feature=sha re
Obamacare's Impact on Families
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Obamacare's Impact on Doctors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Small Business Owner Fears Obamacare's Impact on Jobs and Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Small Business Owner on Obamacare: Every Restaurant You Eat At Is Impacted Negatively
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Report: Doctors quit on Obamacare
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I began warning people about ObamaCare over three years ago, and I told conservatives how they could stop it, but I didn't realize the level of stupidity I was dealing with.
So, now SHUT UP, you DESERVE to suffer with it, because you're all DUMB, arrogant, and hateful traitors.
You also deserve what the rich are going to do to you when they don't need your votes anymore. You people are too dumb to survive.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#61853 Nov 18, 2012
Observation Deck wrote:
you act surprised
I an not surprised at all. In my opinion, he failed us during his first term.
UidiotRAcesMAkeW orldPEace

United States

#61854 Nov 18, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
"I" haven't traded MY liberty for security ...
Have you?
At present ...
I have MY Liberty
A
N
D
MY Security :)
u really are Dumb and clueless...

The Illicit US overseas wars , the US War/oil-for-profitering enterprises,acidic US interventions/Us imperialism,Us militatism and bullying andf killing and other Ill Greedy US Hegemonic global Interests had incited growth of enemies world and this is Bankrupting US morally and financially, and all this US perpetual wars overseas is destroying our Civil liberties and u Warmongering neocons had create a US Police State. Know anything about all these obnoxious Illegal abuse on our US civil liverties , ruining Freedom and destroying a Quasi-democracy those are the ugly US martial law, Patriot Acts, illegal Wiretaping Americans, Suspension Of Habeou Corpus, CISPA and SOPA, NDAA... and other illegal Extra-constitutional agendas and illicitExecutive orders that is ruining America.

BWHAHHAHAHAAa

Since: Jun 10

Fremont, CA

#61855 Nov 18, 2012
Thanks for the judge its, POSEY. Hahhahahha!
UidiotRAcesMAkeW orldPEace

United States

#61856 Nov 18, 2012
The Sovereign Man is the Real Prisoner


by Sartre Batr



According to establishment officials, the concept of the Sovereign Man philosophy is a direct threat to the authority of the State. Depending upon your perception of reality and the degree of legitimacy for government, given to the prevailing order, fundamental inalienable rights of the individual may vary widely. In the extreme, government statists consider most if not all natural rights as capricious and arbitrary, if conflicts challenge the dictates of the regime. This unending and interminable struggle to defend undeniable individual basic rights drives bureaucrats to use unconscionable measures to coerce citizen compliance.

An illustration comes from the FBI’s Counterterrorism Analysis Section in their publication, Sovereign Citizens – A Growing Domestic Threat to Law Enforcement.

“The FBI considers sovereign-citizen extremists as comprising a domestic terrorist movement, which, scattered across the United States, has existed for decades ... Sovereign citizens do not represent an anarchist group, nor are they a militia, although they sometimes use or buy illegal weapons. Rather, they operate as individuals without established leadership and only come together in loosely affiliated groups to train, help each other with paperwork, or socialize and talk about their ideology. They may refer to themselves as “constitutionalists” or “freemen,” which is not necessarily a connection to a specific group, but, rather, an indication that they are free from government control. They follow their own set of laws. While the philosophies and conspiracy theories can vary from person to person, their core beliefs are the same: The government operates outside of its jurisdiction. Because of this belief, they do not recognize federal, state, or local laws, policies, or regulations.”

Such sentiments demonstrate that civil liberties have no place in the realm of federal law enforcement. Authoritarians assume that government automatically possesses authenticity because it claims to hold a monopoly of force within the society. Rational and balanced observers of the history and government abuses, especially to their own citizens, must conclude that arrogant superiority, manifested by magistrates and constables, has caused untold atrocities and suffering.

For more

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/24/the-s...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#61858 Nov 18, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"The problems with “universal” health care aren’t confined to Britain. Canada’s single-payer, government-run system — where any private health care is outlawed under the Canada Health Act — is similarly failing its patients.
The Health Council of Canada recently surveyed over three thousand patients and found that those with chronic illnesses like high blood pressure or heart disease were largely dissatisfied with the medical care they received. Less than half of respondents with such conditions reported that the care they received was excellent or very good.
But aren’t they getting it for free? Shouldn’t they be grateful?
Not really. Despite the massive taxes Canadians remit to finance universal care, they still must pay out of pocket for some services. Nearly a quarter of chronically ill respondents said that they had skipped their medications or neglected to fill a prescription because it was too expensive."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...
Now pay attention to this line and for as it makes hellywood a liar.. He don't have employer paid HCI.. It would illegal in Canada..
"Canada’s single-payer, government-run system — where any private health care is outlawed under the Canada Health Act — is similarly failing its patients."
Eagle
P.s. Read the entire article..
Good information. Thank you!!!
UidiotRAcesMAkeW orldPEace

United States

#61859 Nov 18, 2012
Contagious Paranoia
by Paul Balles



Five years ago I wrote an article on mass paranoia. At the time I argued that U.S. and Israeli paranoia threaten to lead the entire world to oblivion.

In that previous article, I defined paranoia as “a psychotic disorder characterized by delusions of persecution with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason. It involves an extreme, irrational distrust of others.”

That definition of paranoia applies not only to individuals; it also fits large groups of people, like the disastrous gathering of people in Jonestown, Guyana who killed themselves with cyanide poisoning.

It’s contagious and can spread like a pandemic. The U.S. and Israel are acting as paranoid as the Jim Jones cult that led to the murder/suicide of over 900 people.

The entire cold war was an expression of national paranoia on the parts of both America and Russia. As soon as both sides in the cold war relaxed, the U.S. started its moves to create paranoia through its threatening activities.

The U.S. brought virtually the whole Warsaw Pact into NATO, a real threat to Russia. America gave up its policy of deterrence for one of pre-emptive attacks and occupations.

Norman Podhoretz, the godfather of the American neocon movement wrote,“It now remains to be seen whether this president … will find it possible to take the only action that can stop Iran from following through on its evil intentions both toward us and toward Israel. As an American and as a Jew, I pray with all my heart that he will.”

Paranoia took stronger hold in America with 9/11; and the large numbers of security measures that have followed reveal an increasing disorder.

From its beginnings as terrorists in Palestine, Israelis have shifted between their irrational fears of another holocaust and their equally irrational fears of attacks by neighbouring states.

In a study of different island cultures, anthropologist Ruth Benedict, in Patterns of Culture, referred to the Dobuans whose culture seemed to her magic-ridden, with everyone fearing and hating everyone else. She characterised the islanders as “paranoiac and mean-spirited”.

According to Israel Shamir, in the Wall, this “definition fits the Jews as culture to a boot.”

Shamir adds,“The Jewish state is enactment of the paranoid Jewish fear and loathing of stranger, while the Cabal policies of Pentagon are another manifestation of the same fear and loathing on global scale.”

The Medical Encyclopaedia says,“Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are ‘out to get them’.”

Present Israel, the country of perennial body search, is the ultimate of paranoid societies.

While paranoia in individuals has no known cure, it can be treated with medication. Group paranoia has no known treatment. Thus, if a group like those following the dictates of cult leader Jim Jones succumbs to paranoia, it’s incurable.

Not only is it incurable, it’s exceptionally dangerous to members of the group as well as to others in contact with the group. When the group happens to be a nation, the dangers become even greater.

The motivation for pre-emptive strikes (Israeli bombing of Iraq and Syria) and pre-emptive wars (American invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan) comes from group paranoia.

The Sci-Tech dictionary, by McGraw Hill describes this sort of paranoia as having “…properties of suspiciousness, fearfulness, hypersensitivity, hostility, rigidity of conviction, and an exaggerated sense of self-reference.”

As the U.S. and Israel move closer to a larger pre-emptive war with Iran, our only hope is that enough of the American public can resist those with paranoid delusions.

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