The President has failed us

The President has failed us

There are 381363 comments on the Times News story from Jun 9, 2012, titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Times News.

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33277 Oct 6, 2012
JackMcIntosh wrote:
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The capacity isn't there either.
Pipeline is the only economically workable way to move large quantities of oil over long distance (on land) with any degree of reliability.
Don't forget, I've been in favor of the Keystone Pipeline provided it's done the right way.
I know you been for it Jack and wasn't attacking ya.. But adding the supply on the market would lower prices worldwide.. Others see it differently..

Eagle

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33279 Oct 6, 2012
WARRENS Buffet wrote:
<quoted text>Just a little FYI as the amount of oil hauled daily out of Eastern MT and ND's "Bakkin Formation." One million gallons a day via BNSF. The railroad's spent a bundle of money upgrading rails and signals. Warren's not going to let this come to a hault without a fight. Too bad Berkshire Hathaway won't pay it's $1Billion IRS bill, isn't it?
You are always on top of things LE.. ;-)

Tim Mcgraw (It Felt Good on my Lips)


Eagle
WARRENs Buffet

Saint Louis, MO

#33282 Oct 6, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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I know you been for it Jack and wasn't attacking ya.. But adding the supply on the market would lower prices worldwide.. Others see it differently..
Eagle
Interesting facts. An empty rail oil tanker weighs between 70,000 and 80,000 pounds. A loaded tanker weighs 263,000. Multiply that by let's say 50 loaded tankers coming at you that have derailed vs a possible underground spill.

“Extremely me”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#33283 Oct 6, 2012
fishaholic wrote:
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Seems that everyone acts like PBS is 100% gummint funded and can't make it without it. Seems also that everyone agrees that federal spending needs to be cut - as long as it's not YOUR pet project.
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PBS is funded indirectly by Congress through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB; which funds both PBS and National Public Radio). For fiscal year 2010,$281m out of CPB's $422m appropriation went to public television,$210m to local stations and $71m to PBS directly ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub ...). In 2010, PBS had revenues of around $570m ( http://www.pbs.org/about/media/a ...), meaning federal funding via CPB accounted for about 12% of PBS 2010 annual revenues.
http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of-PBS-fund...
I you want to change the trajectory of the federal budget you are going to have to make the big cuts where the big money is.

Romney wants to cut spending on PBS and increase spending on the military.

Where the hell do you se any savings in that?

When you're ready to get serious about the pentagon budget we can talk.

Until then it's all just for show and you can keep your grubby little hands off Big Bird.

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33284 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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The keystone pipeline will create some temp construction jobs and some maintenance jobs but if the keystone pipe line is not made there will be an increase in hirings @ the railroad to haul the extra tonnage and those are good paying jobs that all start off at $25 bucks an hr with all the nooks & crannies.
Why do you think Warren Buffet purchased Burlington Railroad Santa-Fe? Their right of way railroad tracks are the prime track to be used to haul all that oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast and to the rest of the USA. Heck BNSF even has tracks headed right into the California refineries in Los Angeles. Believe me I know, I see them hauling tons of oil all the time as the the BNSF yards are right across from where I work.
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On average it's (7 lbs) per gallon for light sweet crude.
2000 lbs = 1 ton =1 barrel of oil = 42 US gallons = 6.8 barrels of crude oil per 1 ton
Most train tracks are rated for around 300,000 lbs or 150 tons per freight car.
Most train freight tank cars hold 30,000 US gallons = 210,000 lbs = 105 tons
I hope this helps!
And thats why obama is against it due to buffet.. Use the most costly way to move crude.. Hey the rail lines can move all the coal they want leave oil alone.. JMO..

Eagle
WARRENs Buffet

Saint Louis, MO

#33285 Oct 6, 2012
The pipeline will provide good paying jobs after it's built. It'll also provide millions of dollars of revenues to the states it's in. We need less trains, not more!
WARRENs Buffet

Saint Louis, MO

#33286 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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Nobody likes you... can you tell? Now scram!
I don't remember asking you again for your opinion Rico. I can't say I like you much. One thing I do know about is the railroad industry. Now take a hike!
WARRENs Buffet

Saint Louis, MO

#33287 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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Now there is some truth in trickle down economics when it comes to the Railroad. Nobody who works for the Railroad is poor... they're all decent paying jobs.
Be right back... I have to inspect an outbound consist headed for Brooklyn, Washington.
Chooo Chooo!!!!
Posting on the job again? Be careful Rico....
WARRENs Buffet

Saint Louis, MO

#33288 Oct 6, 2012
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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And thats why obama is against it due to buffet.. Use the most costly way to move crude.. Hey the rail lines can move all the coal they want leave oil alone.. JMO..
Eagle
The BNSF is doing that too. Warren's got his hand in everything.
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#33290 Oct 6, 2012
--X-- Man wrote:
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I like Paul too, but he does have some weird ideas..
heeheehe talk to your self much??????? LOL..trying
hard rico,ntr x man...

News Flash

Depends claim huge surge in profits since the
Romney Oblamer debate!!! Wonder why???

“Extremely me”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#33291 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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The keystone pipeline will create some temp construction jobs and some maintenance jobs but if the keystone pipe line is not made there will be an increase in hirings @ the railroad to haul the extra tonnage and those are good paying jobs that all start off at $25 bucks an hr with all the nooks & crannies.
Why do you think Warren Buffet purchased Burlington Railroad Santa-Fe? Their right of way railroad tracks are the prime track to be used to haul all that oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast and to the rest of the USA. Heck BNSF even has tracks headed right into the California refineries in Los Angeles. Believe me I know, I see them hauling tons of oil all the time as the the BNSF yards are right across from where I work.
<quoted text>
On average it's (7 lbs) per gallon for light sweet crude.
2000 lbs = 1 ton =1 barrel of oil = 42 US gallons = 6.8 barrels of crude oil per 1 ton
Most train tracks are rated for around 300,000 lbs or 150 tons per freight car.
Most train freight tank cars hold 30,000 US gallons = 210,000 lbs = 105 tons
I hope this helps!
Rail is part of the answer, but what is the overall capacity? I mean, just how much oil can we move by rail in a single day?

I'm also wondering where we could find a comparison between the cost of trasnsporting oil by rail and by pipeline?

I'm only asking because I don't know and this conversation has made me curious.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33292 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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The USA already has a railroad system that can ship & will ship the oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast and all over the USA.
Did you Keystone Pipeline zombies forget that when the oil from Canada gets yanked from the ground... the railroads will be the ones who will have to hire mechanics, Engineers, conductors, laborers, maintenance of way, signal men... bla bla bla and an array of contractors to haul all that oil??
A train can move 1 ton of freight 500 miles on 1 gallon of diesel. Talk about efficiency!
Yes... I'm a Railroader and I say fk the Keystone pipeline.
And, the Keystone pipeline can move millions of gallons of oil for ZERO gallons of diesel. The only one making MILLIONS on the rail shipping is Warren Buffett. You know, the same Warren Buffett that's in obama's back pocket.

“Speak softly”

Since: Oct 07

Carry a big sword

#33294 Oct 6, 2012
sage won wrote:
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Weren't you a stand in for Norman Bates mom in
"Psycho" ? You bear a striking resemblance to her.:-)
Who is that small man wearing bobby socks in your avatar? Or is that a Ken doll?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33295 Oct 6, 2012
Republicans against Mitt wrote:
The retarded John Kerry had more fking balls than Mitt Romney.
Yeah, Kerry had balls enough to put HIMSELF in for a Purple Heart for a scratch he allegedly received in "combat". I think it was a reported paper cut or something. LMAO!!

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33297 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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Railroad diesel fuel is not taxed in the same way that auto fuel is taxed and is dyed red in color. Its not taxed because the railroad does its own maintenance of track and thus the price of diesel for railroads is much much lower.
On average a gallon of railroad diesel fuel cost about $1.25 per gallon to $2.50 per gallon. If you do not believe these numbers then that's OK but consider this:
Railroad fuel is not refined the way auto fuel is nor does it have to factor in marketing & distribution fees as the railroad is the main hauler of gasoline and buys fuel at bulk prices.
So when all is said and done, railroad diesel gas ends up being around $1.25 to $2.50 a gallon. I'd side with the upper price right now.
Oh I know and farm/off road fuel is not taxed the same either.. But all things aside the carbon footprint is there.. I thought that was something the dems were against??

Eagle

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33298 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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The increase tonnage of crude oil will also require the hiring of many railroad jobs also.
So why should we have the federal gov't spend my taxes on a pipeline for a private contractor & Canadian company when we already have the infrastructure in place to haul the oil already???
You Republicans are all about cutting the defect and jobs for Americans yet you want to spend billions on corporate welfare for a Canadian company.
Seriously... you people are so ignorant.
The pipeline wouldn't have cost the federal government a single penny.. A simple stroke of a pen could have started creating jobs here in America..

Tell me how would the rail line do if they had to use green energy and bio diesel??

Eagle

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33299 Oct 6, 2012
--X-- Man wrote:
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I like Paul too, but he does have some weird ideas..
I liked some of Paul's ideas on domestic issues, but, he is a real nutcase in his foreign policy ideas. He would make a great Treasury Sec, IMO.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33301 Oct 6, 2012
Imhotep wrote:
Republican Congressman: Science Is ‘All Lies From The Pit Of Hell!’
Imhotep laughs at abject ignorance!
There are days I despair for the human race. This is certainly one of them. Last month, Rep. Paul Broun (R-Moron) gave a speech denouncing science as Satan’s work to undermine Christianity. Seriously.
Via TPM:
“All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,” Broun said.“And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
According to Broun, the scientific plot was primarily concerned with hiding the true age of the Earth. Broun serves on the House Science Committee, which came under scrutiny recently after another one of its Republican members, Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), suggested that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses against pregnancy.
Stupid cannot be corrected
What daft brain this mammal has!
YOU elected this dolt
Speaking of electing dolts, how's this for one on your side:

Unfortunately, this is not an April Fools Day prank, just a member of Congress acting hilariously aloof. After debating the exact size of Guam for a full minute with a military commander before concluding that it is "a small island," U.S. Representative Hank Johnson reveals his fear: that more U.S. troops will cause Guam to "tip over" and sink into the ocean.

The best part of hearing Johnson say, "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," is hearing the commander try to explain why it's probably -- no, definitely -- not going to happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/01/hank...

“ON THE PROWL”

Since: May 08

Ocala, FL

#33302 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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Looks like you never took a physics program in college. The law of conservation of energy is that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be transferred or transformed from one form to another. So you're claiming that millions of gallons of oil can move itself all the way from Canada to the Gulf Coast by itself?
Looks like you Romneybots have your own ideology on physics also.
Sorry dummy but crude oil has a high viscosity and to pump high viscous oils 1000's of miles will require a massive pumping and heat system to keep the oil at a low viscosity rate which will eat up massive amounts of energy [electricity].
Most electricity in the USA is produced from dirty coal power plants. So is there a real difference when it comes to using fossil fuels such as diesel fuel or coal?
No there is not.
Yea but gravity does help in this case.. But anyway the same could be said about the electric cars.. It takes coal fired power plants too power them.. Going green is not so green..

Eagle
WARRENs Buffet

De Soto, KS

#33303 Oct 6, 2012
Rico the Railroader wrote:
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The increase tonnage of crude oil will also require the hiring of many railroad jobs also.
So why should we have the federal gov't spend my taxes on a pipeline for a private contractor & Canadian company when we already have the infrastructure in place to haul the oil already???
You Republicans are all about cutting the defect and jobs for Americans yet you want to spend billions on corporate welfare for a Canadian company.
Seriously... you people are so ignorant.
Resorting to your typical name calling. Berkshire Hathaway has enough money. It's time the states reap the benefits. Good Gawd, old Warren Buffett's receiving a SS check and Medicare. He wouldn't if I had my way. If you lived in NE, you'd see the positives, not just your negatives. The Feds spend all tax dollars on things I probably wouldn't. I also don't approve of Obama's side kick at GE shipping jobs out of America. Those jobs were paying thousands of Americans, but hey it's clear if you're a chosen one of the Messiah, rules as usual don't apply. You can also laugh at shovel ready jobs that weren't so shovel ready after all. But hell it's just more money out kids and grandkids will be saddled with, right?

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