After veto threat, Obama signs $633 b...

After veto threat, Obama signs $633 billion defense bill

There are 80 comments on the CBS News story from Jan 3, 2013, titled After veto threat, Obama signs $633 billion defense bill. In it, CBS News reports that:

President Barack Obama has signed a $633 billion defense bill for next year that tightens penalties on Iran and bolsters security at diplomatic missions worldwide after the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya.

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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#1 Jan 3, 2013
Well, at least we finally have defense spending cutbacks. It's been a long time coming for that, and no bill is ever exactly what one wanted it to be.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2 Jan 3, 2013
According to the Department of Defense’s 2010 Base Structure Report, as of 2009, the US military maintained 662 foreign sites in 38 countries around the world. But that number represents a reduction from numbers reported by DOD just a few years ago.

“Scan the Department of Defense’s 2010 Base Structure Report for sites in Afghanistan,” writes Turse.“Go ahead, read through all 206 pages. You won’t find a mention of them, not a citation, not a single reference, not an inkling that the United States has even one base in Afghanistan, let alone more than 400.”

Incredibly, the same blackout applies to Iraq, where published reports in mainstream media outlets put the number of bases in the 80s. So, even the official US military tally underreports our presence by nearly 500 bases. And that’s before you add in other blacked-out sites in places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Also conveniently “forgotten” in the base count are facilities run by other countries on behalf of the US, sites operated covertly by the CIA, and de facto “bases” that float on America’s fleet of aircraft carriers, says Turse.

The U.S. currently has 294 physical embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions across the world, with 27 in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, which is more than any other nation. Other major Western powers, such as Britain, are currently expanding their overseas portfolio, but has the U.S. reached saturation point whereby its network is becoming more damaging than beneficial? Are these attacks a signal that the U.S. should reduce its diplomatic footprint in the Middle East and elsewhere?

YES.

A reduction in both.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#3 Jan 3, 2013
$633 billion.

Wow!
That's a lot of boondoggles.
And how many billions are there
that we never even hear about?

The military-industrial complex
is licking its chops.

Eisenhower is spinning in his grave.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#4 Jan 3, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
Well, at least we finally have defense spending cutbacks. It's been a long time coming for that, and no bill is ever exactly what one wanted it to be.
Yeah, great. Now come the layoffs...oh, and a fifth straight year of at least a trillion dollars in new debt.

Since: Dec 07

Athens, TX

#5 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
According to the Department of Defense’s 2010 Base Structure Report, as of 2009, the US military maintained 662 foreign sites in 38 countries around the world. But that number represents a reduction from numbers reported by DOD just a few years ago.
“Scan the Department of Defense’s 2010 Base Structure Report for sites in Afghanistan,” writes Turse.“Go ahead, read through all 206 pages. You won’t find a mention of them, not a citation, not a single reference, not an inkling that the United States has even one base in Afghanistan, let alone more than 400.”
Incredibly, the same blackout applies to Iraq, where published reports in mainstream media outlets put the number of bases in the 80s. So, even the official US military tally underreports our presence by nearly 500 bases. And that’s before you add in other blacked-out sites in places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.
Also conveniently “forgotten” in the base count are facilities run by other countries on behalf of the US, sites operated covertly by the CIA, and de facto “bases” that float on America’s fleet of aircraft carriers, says Turse.
The U.S. currently has 294 physical embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions across the world, with 27 in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, which is more than any other nation. Other major Western powers, such as Britain, are currently expanding their overseas portfolio, but has the U.S. reached saturation point whereby its network is becoming more damaging than beneficial? Are these attacks a signal that the U.S. should reduce its diplomatic footprint in the Middle East and elsewhere?
YES.
A reduction in both.
You just described how WWII got started........and yes the democrats in charge at the time had the same attitude....

Fkn briliant. LMAO

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#6 Jan 3, 2013
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, great. Now come the layoffs...oh, and a fifth straight year of at least a trillion dollars in new debt.
First you GOP loons say "GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS" - then you cry "WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING" / seems like you now feel differently, don't you?

You can't have it both ways man - wake the fcuk up already!

Since: Dec 07

Athens, TX

#7 Jan 3, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
First you GOP loons say "GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS" - then you cry "WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING" / seems like you now feel differently, don't you?
You can't have it both ways man - wake the fcuk up already!
Where has government created jobs.....except for high salaried government overseers filing out food stamp forms???

Shovel ready, cash for clunkers, green energy plants taxpayer funded all bankrupt...Fisker moves out of the country..taxpayer funded.

Brilliant!
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#8 Jan 3, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
You just described how WWII got started........and yes the democrats in charge at the time had the same attitude....
Fkn briliant. LMAO
And leaving it the way it is caused the 9/11 attacks.

The neocon/republicans had the same attitude.

What about the teabaggers "precious" budget?

Fkn brilliant.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#9 Jan 3, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Where has government created jobs.....except for high salaried government overseers filing out food stamp forms???
Shovel ready, cash for clunkers, green energy plants taxpayer funded all bankrupt...Fisker moves out of the country..taxpayer funded.
Brilliant!
Read about Fisker you idiot before you spout your mouth off again'

"It had one investor, a big one, that got away — the federal government. Fisker spent $193 million of a $528.7 million loan from the Department of Energy before the government blocked access to the loan in May, after Fisker failed to meet key government requirements."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013...

You really are a stupid sole!
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#10 Jan 3, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Where has government created jobs.....except for high salaried government overseers filing out food stamp forms???
Shovel ready, cash for clunkers, green energy plants taxpayer funded all bankrupt...Fisker moves out of the country..taxpayer funded.
Brilliant!
The report, prepared by the Republican staff on the House Armed Services Committee, concludes that if Congress enacts cuts beyond $350 billion over a decade, which were already agreed to, the military services would shrink to pre-9/11 levels and most of their big-ticket weapon programs would be “at risk.”
The GOP staff goes so far as to warn that more Defense Department budget cuts “could force America to return to the draft.” The report also says much of the planned F-35 fighter fleet would be terminated, while the Navy would retire around 40 ships — including two aircraft carriers — and Army vehicle programs could be terminated.
Those predictions are based on a special congressional panel failing to find at least $1.2 trillion in cuts, which would trigger an automatic $600 billion in cuts over a decade for the Pentagon and other national security agencies. The chairman of the committee, Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), has said the Pentagon likely would take half of that reduction.
“We believe potential cuts to the military pose a serious threat that would break the back of our armed forces while slowing our economic recovery and doing little to resolve our debt crisis,” the GOP staff wrote.“These cuts would destroy jobs and stall the economy, they could force America to return to the draft, and we would incur more casualties as we defend our freedom.”
The report says 200,000 military personnel and “hundreds of thousands” of DOD civilian personnel would be “out of work” if the $600 billion trigger is enacted.
"Out of a job"?
Didn't teabaggers claim the government doesn't "create" JOBS?
"These cuts would destroy jobs and stall the economy"
Destroy and stall the economy?
Poor teabagger,

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#11 Jan 3, 2013
Another cowardly cave-in by the current White House Resident, who apparently never met a Republican or Corporate-supported issue he wouldn't compromise his a-- away on.

Disgusting. Extends Gitmo detentions, more money for wars and ridiculous "sanctions," more money for Israel, more waste and fraud from the Military-Industrial Complex.

You should be ashamed, Obama.

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#12 Jan 3, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
You just described how WWII got started........and yes the democrats in charge at the time had the same attitude....
Fkn briliant. LMAO
Democrats in America started WWII? I always thought it was the Japanese...and that Germany followed suit by declaring war.

Is that like when you guys blame Obama for Benghazi instead of the terrorists who actually attacked the Consulate?
stormy

Bridgeport, WV

#13 Jan 3, 2013
You are doing what you have been doing for the
last 4yrs.. Where has it got you, not to mention
about the rest of the country! But who thinks
about anyone but themselves?
Nearly 50% of our country is on food stamps and
a government check. But that isn't anything,
we can afford it. Yes we can put a few trillon
on the debt, whats the big deal, the credit cards
are maxed out and You didn't go over the clif...
Who gets elected to the highest office in the land,
and has to think about money or the country, it your time to rule and do as you please....

Happy days are here again, with your votes, hes
got 4 more yrs. How lucky can the people get,
no work, government keeps you, and the rich will
bail us out, even IF there isn't enough to repay
the 16 trillon. "Maybe we will think about it tomorrow". Then we can do our job and blame
guess who???? Dreamers......The fault lies
at someone elses feet...

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#14 Jan 3, 2013
Gary wrote:
$633 billion.
Wow!
That's a lot of boondoggles.
And how many billions are there
that we never even hear about?
The military-industrial complex
is licking its chops.
Eisenhower is spinning in his grave.
Well, it takes a lot to pay for those 800+ foreign bases we "need," including the ones in Japan and Germany from a war that was over 67 years ago...for those advanced weapons systems which won't fly or detect missiles correctly...and for flying military leaders from one 'affair' to another quickly.

And, uh, besides, it, uh, creats JOBS!

;)
oh yeah

Virginia Beach, VA

#15 Jan 3, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Democrats in America started WWII? I always thought it was the Japanese...and that Germany followed suit by declaring war.
Is that like when you guys blame Obama for Benghazi instead of the terrorists who actually attacked the Consulate?
But 9/11 is still Bush's fault, right?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#16 Jan 3, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
The report, prepared by the Republican staff on the House Armed Services Committee, concludes that if Congress enacts cuts beyond $350 billion over a decade, which were already agreed to, the military services would shrink to pre-9/11 levels and most of their big-ticket weapon programs would be “at risk.”
The GOP staff goes so far as to warn that more Defense Department budget cuts “could force America to return to the draft.” The report also says much of the planned F-35 fighter fleet would be terminated, while the Navy would retire around 40 ships — including two aircraft carriers — and Army vehicle programs could be terminated.
Those predictions are based on a special congressional panel failing to find at least $1.2 trillion in cuts, which would trigger an automatic $600 billion in cuts over a decade for the Pentagon and other national security agencies. The chairman of the committee, Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), has said the Pentagon likely would take half of that reduction.
“We believe potential cuts to the military pose a serious threat that would break the back of our armed forces while slowing our economic recovery and doing little to resolve our debt crisis,” the GOP staff wrote.“These cuts would destroy jobs and stall the economy, they could force America to return to the draft, and we would incur more casualties as we defend our freedom.”
The report says 200,000 military personnel and “hundreds of thousands” of DOD civilian personnel would be “out of work” if the $600 billion trigger is enacted.
"Out of a job"?
Didn't teabaggers claim the government doesn't "create" JOBS?
"These cuts would destroy jobs and stall the economy"
Destroy and stall the economy?
Poor teabagger,
Fabulous post! ucciently points out that regardless of what the teabaggers or other GOP windbags claim, government does in fact create jobs - hundreds of thousands of jobs.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#17 Jan 3, 2013
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
But 9/11 is still Bush's fault, right?
Partially, not entirely.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18 Jan 3, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Where has government created jobs.....except for high salaried government overseers filing out food stamp forms???
Shovel ready, cash for clunkers, green energy plants taxpayer funded all bankrupt...Fisker moves out of the country..taxpayer funded.
Brilliant!
Pssst, all the Defense Dept people that the other GOP-booster idiot was complaining would now lose their jobs because of these EXTREMELY MINOR cuts in defense spending.

If the govt hires you, then the govt created a job.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 Jan 3, 2013
We could EASILY cut the defense budget IN HALF and not jeopardize our national security in the least.

IN HALF.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#20 Jan 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
We could EASILY cut the defense budget IN HALF and not jeopardize our national security in the least.
IN HALF.
Absolutely!

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