Navarrette: Scholarships for illegal immigrants

Dec 30, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Ventura County Star

Not unlike the rest of the country, the Golden State can't decide whether it wants to make life comfortable for the undocumented or make them so unhappy that it runs them off.

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#1 Dec 30, 2012
This is a perfect example of the refusal of our government to enforce the law. It is illegal to aid, abet or encourage a person to enter or remain in the country illegally yet groups and individuals openly do so. If the laws were enforced we would not have an illegal immigration problem and the country could concentrate on improving our immigration system rather than discouraging legal immigration and encouraging illegal immigration.
no amnesty

United States

#2 Dec 30, 2012
Give them nothing. Make their lives miserable. Throw their bastards out of the public schools. Round them up indiscriminately. Make families live in fear that daddy won't come home from the job he is not entitled to have because his lowlife ass had been shipped back to Mexico. These things, I almost used the word "people," are lying, thieving leeches. Deport them all now before they turn the whole US into Mexico, or worse, California.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#3 Dec 30, 2012
all do to gov failure to do what they swore an oath to do.

maybe get voter id and put all things to do with illegal aliens to a vote only after fraud prevention is in full force.

then that is a fail too being we have anti-American judges who have already sided with illegals making them unfit for the bench.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#5 Dec 30, 2012
We keep giving these criminals incentives to come here and then we wonder why they come.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#6 Dec 30, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
We keep giving these criminals incentives to come here and then we wonder why they come.
we as in those in office,hopefully is what you mean. no matter who will hire them house them or anything else it all falls on those in office who have been going against the citizens.

there are laws that these folks swore to uphold so it all falls on them,WE The People seem to have lost control of our elected employees.it seems they all work for illegal aliens and their lobby
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#7 Dec 30, 2012
We lost control when politician became a profession.
Magadala

Gig Harbor, WA

#8 Dec 30, 2012
In callie, illegal aliens are now entitled to the tax payer Cal Grant. I know this is hard to believe, but the amount awarded to tax payer citizens is now decreased in order to accommodate the in state tuition for illegal aliens. Now, they have a scholarship to help them over the hump! Isn't that great?!!! NOT!

We are breding, no, correction, we have bred the most entitlement group in America. This is in spite of the fact that they continue to tell us that they are the best and brightest! The best and brightest could figure out how to get their own.

I was really outraged until I read where they have to maintain a "B" average. Oh well, the first thing mexicans will have to do is to graduate from high school...which is one of their major hurdles. Looks like Asian illegal aliens are getting help. LOL
Magadala

Gig Harbor, WA

#9 Dec 30, 2012
Correction: I meant to say that the illegal aliens already receive in state tuition, and legal citizen's Cal Grant is decreased in order to accommodate illegal aliens...REALLY!!!
Unknown

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Dec 30, 2012
Man scew that, I'm legal here and I have Freinds that aren't and your comment just crossed the f'ing line chyt head, how would you like to live in there situation and be judged only because youre not legal here, there're just trying to live a better life, fck off and leave them the fck alone you piece of shit, you're just a racist asshole who doesn't give a chyt about no one else but your self, and I hope the illegal immigrants gets legalized here and accomplish more than you so then you could kiss there butts b
no amnesty wrote:
Give them nothing. Make their lives miserable. Throw their bastards out of the public schools. Round them up indiscriminately. Make families live in fear that daddy won't come home from the job he is not entitled to have because his lowlife ass had been shipped back to Mexico. These things, I almost used the word "people," are lying, thieving leeches. Deport them all now before they turn the whole US into Mexico, or worse, California.
barry

Fort Payne, AL

#11 Dec 31, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
This is a perfect example of the refusal of our government to enforce the law. It is illegal to aid, abet or encourage a person to enter or remain in the country illegally yet groups and individuals openly do so. If the laws were enforced we would not have an illegal immigration problem and the country could concentrate on improving our immigration system rather than discouraging legal immigration and encouraging illegal immigration.
hi dee, hope you had a nice Christmas. pa. sure is beautiful this time of the year.
how then is this a perfect example? these children who were brought here by their parents have not broken any laws so our laws are very unclear about their status. that is the legal position supported by court rulings all across our great land. therefore states rights allows california to do or not to do what it has decided to do.
barry

Fort Payne, AL

#12 Dec 31, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
We keep giving these criminals incentives to come here and then we wonder why they come.
ok, this is about the children who were brought here by those who came here illegally so to lump them in as criminals is off topic.
Magadala

Gig Harbor, WA

#13 Dec 31, 2012
Unknown wrote:
Man scew that, I'm legal here and I have Freinds that aren't and your comment just crossed the f'ing line chyt head, how would you like to live in there situation and be judged only because youre not legal here, there're just trying to live a better life, fck off and leave them the fck alone you piece of shit, you're just a racist asshole who doesn't give a chyt about no one else but your self, and I hope the illegal immigrants gets legalized here and accomplish more than you so then you could kiss there butts b<quoted text>
Ha, ha, hah!!! Hit home, didn't it! Your mind is so screwed up that you are actually looking for sympathy for the fact that you came here unwanted and unwelcomed. In spite of that, you continued to commit criminal acts by stealing our identity, causing our emergency rooms to close, bring down our education system, negatively impact our school budgets with your non English speaking, and you NEVER so appreciation for what you have been so freely given.

No! All you want is more freebies, you feel you have a right to it, sometimes saying that you pay taxes through rent and your unreimbursed payroll & soc sec taxes you pay out from your illegal idenity theft job, which doesn't compare to the amount you and your consume through education and social services.

Anyone who thinks the way I do and expresses themselves is called a racist/bigot! You are the reason some people hate the mexican population en mass. You say that you are legal,rather than saying you were an American!!!!

yet, there is nothing in your post that supports your being an American...like all other mexicans, it doesn't matter what side of the fence you're own, you still consider yourselves mexican rather than American!

Like all entitlement oriented people, you bemoan your living situation as though it is our problema! You have options! You can always go home... Why be a failure both places?
Magadala

Gig Harbor, WA

#14 Dec 31, 2012
"...you hope that they get legalized and accomplished more than" he does? They already get a free ride, all expenses paid for 12 years!!! Why don't they start accomplishing something like graduating from high school?!!!!

mexicans have the lowest high school graduation rate in the nation, far outdistancing other groups. If they can't accomplish high school, which they attend for free, why is anyone breaking their necks to give them college? Start where the problem is, learn to graduate high school first!
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#15 Dec 31, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>hi dee, hope you had a nice Christmas. pa. sure is beautiful this time of the year.
how then is this a perfect example? these children who were brought here by their parents have not broken any laws so our laws are very unclear about their status. that is the legal position supported by court rulings all across our great land. therefore states rights allows california to do or not to do what it has decided to do.
The Christmas City is still beautiful if you stay out of the non-tourist areas. They just found a young Hispanic woman burned and strangled near UNAMI Gun Club in Salisbury Township. Seems the rural areas are becoming a dumping ground just like the Poconos.
As far as I know the courts have never ruled that it is legal to aid, abet and encourage illegal immigrants if the aid and encouragement is in the form of scholarships. I understand that most groups use the donít ask donít tell loophole but actually denying eligibility to legal immigrants and citizens and openly encouraging illegal aliens to apply is definitely illegal and would be a slam dunk case if a case was ever prosecuted.
barry

Fort Payne, AL

#16 Dec 31, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
The Christmas City is still beautiful if you stay out of the non-tourist areas. They just found a young Hispanic woman burned and strangled near UNAMI Gun Club in Salisbury Township. Seems the rural areas are becoming a dumping ground just like the Poconos.
As far as I know the courts have never ruled that it is legal to aid, abet and encourage illegal immigrants if the aid and encouragement is in the form of scholarships. I understand that most groups use the donít ask donít tell loophole but actually denying eligibility to legal immigrants and citizens and openly encouraging illegal aliens to apply is definitely illegal and would be a slam dunk case if a case was ever prosecuted.
i was just up there last week. other than driving in that storm it was a good time. i used to live in bethlehem and yes, they seem to be doing a good job with the seasonal displays.

if she was hispanic in salsbury i'd bet she was a citizen. allentown was always a crime zone and salsbury always picked up the spill over.

the problem with the undocumented children is that no one wants to make a ruling either way with them. they were brought here illegally but they themselves can not be charged with illegal entry. if we just declare them not illegal then they have all kinds of rights that would eliminate us from just deporting them if they were picked up as criminals. in fact they could demand to stay if the parents were deported. if we declare them illegal they could easily appeal and tie up our court systems.
and complicating things even farther is the fact that there are international treaties that cover the treatment of children and while we may not have confirmed those treaties in congress which allows us to ignore them if we want to we as a nation have attempted to follow those treaties in the name of international politics.
now as for the case ever being ruled on, the supremes have agreed that california could offer instate tuition to undocumented/illegal children. also this scholarship money is privately funded with academic stipulations. it is simply being administered by the state and will put money into the system. as for denying money it sets arbitrary guidelines as to who is eligible and that has always been legal when it comes to private scholarships.
deport deport deport

United States

#19 Dec 31, 2012
Let the dreamers go to college, that easy they will be Special People In College or if that name is too long, just use the initials.
Magadala

Gig Harbor, WA

#20 Jan 1, 2013
Welfare Recipient wrote:
Many white Americans lie on their financial aid applications and steal finical aid from illegal aliens.
This has to stop.
At least they pay enough taxes to support it!
deport deport deport

United States

#21 Jan 1, 2013
Unknown wrote:
Man scew that, I'm legal here and I have Freinds that aren't and your comment just crossed the f'ing line chyt head, how would you like to live in there situation and be judged only because youre not legal here, there're just trying to live a better life, fck off and leave them the fck alone you piece of shit, you're just a racist asshole who doesn't give a chyt about no one else but your self, and I hope the illegal immigrants gets legalized here and accomplish more than you so then you could kiss there butts b<quoted text>
aliens are scum. Useless pieces of garbage that their own government sends to the us rather than help them. The only thing lower than them is a piece of chit like yourself who supports foreigners over his own fellow citizens. You are a treasonous turd. Send the Whet backs back where they came from. Join them.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#22 Jan 1, 2013
deport deport deport wrote:
<quoted text>
aliens are scum. Useless pieces of garbage that their own government sends to the us rather than help them. The only thing lower than them is a piece of chit like yourself who supports foreigners over his own fellow citizens. You are a treasonous turd. Send the Whet backs back where they came from. Join them.
We need a national holiday that's praticed 365 days a year. A day without a Mexican day.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#23 Jan 1, 2013
Just give it time and illegal aliens will drain the state dry and then the decision will be out of their hands.

The state of California will be the first state to declare bankruptcy.

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