Senators Reach Agreement On Overhauling Immigration

There are 20 comments on the Jan 28, 2013, National Public Radio story titled Senators Reach Agreement On Overhauling Immigration. In it, National Public Radio reports that:

A bipartisan group of leading senators has reached agreement on the principles of sweeping legislation to rewrite the nation's immigration laws.

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gossamer

Warren, MI

#186 Feb 3, 2013
Bye GUS won't see you around again. Stupid Liberal.

Now that I knocked you down a peg.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#187 Feb 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And the GOPasaurs hopes of winning the White House for the foreseeable future will die with it.
Texas will turn Democatic on the strength of the hispanic vote by 2020.
After that it's all over but the crying.......
No, it won't be over because Texas will not allow illegals to vote like the eastern states and California.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#188 Feb 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>No, it won't be over because Texas will not allow illegals to vote like the eastern states and California.
The fight is not over for any State who have been bombarded with illegals,taxes,enormous fees, crooked Politicians,etc..
This is the problem that we deal with on an every day basis,the weak minded,those who have surrendered,given up hope/faith and those who continue to surrender their liberty to these crooks in our WH.
For all I care,they could sit it out and do nothing. We the True Patriots will continue on to fight for the America we grew up to believe in.

Like I always say, you could knock me down ,stomp on me,but eventually I will get back up/dust myself off and continue on, for my passions run deep.
Billy Ringo

United States

#189 Feb 4, 2013
gossamer wrote:
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Tell that to the thousands of Kurds in mass graves those WMD were non existent.
Then tell Saddam you are sorry that Bush asked Congress for approval to use our military to remove him from power.
Wanna know something? I don't give a rats ass about the effin Kurds.

Removing Saddam was another Shrub blunder - keeping Saddam exactly where he was kept the Iranians in check.

2000 dead americans and 5 trillion dollars pissed away just to get rid of Saddam?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#190 Feb 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>No, it won't be over because Texas will not allow illegals to vote like the eastern states and California.
There are more than enough hispanic citizens in Texas to turn the state "blue" by 2020. Over half of all births in Texas since 2000 have been non-white. As of 2010 whites made up less than 30% of kids under 18. By 2020 those 70% of non-white kids will be voting overwhelmingly for the Dems.

Once Texas goes blue, that gives the Dems 284 electoral votes with the solid blue west coast, northeast, & midwest states.
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#191 Feb 4, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>No, it won't be over because Texas will not allow illegals to vote like the eastern states and California.
texas will have a lot to worry about in 20+yrs besides voting. illegals will overrun the state and take over.
new hammer time

Richmond, VA

#192 Feb 4, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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That was the Congressional Legislation, not the NAFTA Treaty with Canada and Mexico. That legislation altered some of the laws in America so that the Treaty provision, signed by George H.W. Bush could be implemented accordingly.
Only the President can negotiate and agree with terms of a Treaty between America and other Nations.
interesting how that little treaty(agreement) set in motion the quickening of job loss for the USA. interesting also, the numbskulls want to blame Obama for job losses and his inablity to fix something he had nothing to do with. oh how the smart azz ivy league frat boys didn't see trouble before signing.
Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#193 Feb 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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There are more than enough hispanic citizens in Texas to turn the state "blue" by 2020. Over half of all births in Texas since 2000 have been non-white. As of 2010 whites made up less than 30% of kids under 18. By 2020 those 70% of non-white kids will be voting overwhelmingly for the Dems.
Once Texas goes blue, that gives the Dems 284 electoral votes with the solid blue west coast, northeast, & midwest states.
Don't you ever get tired of seeing and thinking everything through the prism of party and ethnicity?
Don't you want all those children being born in Texas to just be AMERICAN?
How the hell is this country ever going to unified again if all we do is find reasons to differentiate and therefore, automatically judge, silo and attack one another?
For the record, there is no telling how "non-whites" currently being born in Texas are going to vote a decade or more from now. Voting among this particular group can't be judge based on the last two elections. "Non-whites", by which I'm guessing you mean Hispanic, aren't any different from "whites", as in they don't all vote as a solid block. And why would they?
Why would any "group", for that matter?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#194 Feb 5, 2013
Chicopee wrote:
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Don't you ever get tired of seeing and thinking everything through the prism of party and ethnicity?
Don't you want all those children being born in Texas to just be AMERICAN?
How the hell is this country ever going to unified again if all we do is find reasons to differentiate and therefore, automatically judge, silo and attack one another?
For the record, there is no telling how "non-whites" currently being born in Texas are going to vote a decade or more from now. Voting among this particular group can't be judge based on the last two elections. "Non-whites", by which I'm guessing you mean Hispanic, aren't any different from "whites", as in they don't all vote as a solid block. And why would they?
Why would any "group", for that matter?
The GOP has never gotten more than 40% of the hispanic vote.

As long as the GOPasaurs continue to support policies which harm hispanics, the hispanics will continue to support the Dems in overwhelming majorities. It's not just about immigration; in spite of being largely catholic, a majority of hispanics support abortion rights & marriage for same-sex couples. A larger percentage of hispanics are poor and rely on govt programs the GOP wants to constantly cut.

It's not their ethnicity which causes them to vote for the Dems; it's about the policies of the GOP which disproportionately affect certain demographics.
Billy Ringo

United States

#195 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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There are more than enough hispanic citizens in Texas to turn the state "blue" by 2020. Over half of all births in Texas since 2000 have been non-white. As of 2010 whites made up less than 30% of kids under 18. By 2020 those 70% of non-white kids will be voting overwhelmingly for the Dems.
Once Texas goes blue, that gives the Dems 284 electoral votes with the solid blue west coast, northeast, & midwest states.
Spot on !!!!!!!!!!

By 2020 TX will be blue. There will never again be a Rethug POTUS !!!!!

Between CA, NY, and TX a Dem candidate will start with 122 electoral votes.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#196 Feb 5, 2013
Republicans aren't jettisoning Free Trade Agreements, that's a futile argument. Free Trade is here to stay, and so long as emerging communities adapt and participate there's always going to be room on a shelf for their goods. Nobody expected when Nixon got off the plane in China, that the results some 40 years later would be China becoming a force in World Markets.
Asian Guy wrote:
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where free trade is concerned, you don't look at the few success stories in the picture to judge how well the free trade has worked.. you look at the whole picture so to speak.
where nafta is concerned, we have an increasing trade debt scenario. every year, deficits add to the debt. obviously, if you allow this to continue, we will go broke.
some information...
http://spofga.org/tax/2008/april/trade_defici...
http://www.ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-tra...
notice how our government plays with the numbers so that you don't see the exact picture without doing the math. obviously, they do not represent americans and america.
regarding who signed the free trade agreements... bottomline, our government consisting of both republicans and democrats are responsible for getting us in this mess with free trade.
bush may have started it. but clinton signed the agreement that actually put the agreement into force. and every other president since then supports said agreements.
they are all equally to blame for the harm that the free trade agreements are doing to us.
if the free trade agreements are not doing us any good, we should discontinue them.
commonsense.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#197 Feb 5, 2013
Changing Birth Right Citizenship requires Amending the Constitution.

The 14th Amendment guarantees Citizenship to anyone born in America or within our jurisdiction.
spytheweb wrote:
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Now they have to figure out no matter what they do Mexicans won't vote for them. Reagan gave amnesty yet republicans recived fewer votes.
These people are 10% of the total vote plus the popular vote is not what counts. Then you take away states that vote democratic anyway whether there are Hispanics there or not, like California. California Hispanics should move to a red state in order to change anything.
The Senate can agree on whatever they want. The amnesty will die in the House. Home to HR 140, stopping birthright citizenship and national E-Verify.
gossamer

Warren, MI

#198 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
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Wanna know something? I don't give a rats ass about the effin Kurds.
Removing Saddam was another Shrub blunder - keeping Saddam exactly where he was kept the Iranians in check.
2000 dead americans and 5 trillion dollars pissed away just to get rid of Saddam?
Really? You can't tell me anything I already know it all. Answer this Obamabot. If Iran was kept in line by Saddam then why did Iran send insurgents in and why was Iran supplying those insurgents with arms?

•Obama's stimulus, passed in his first month in office, will cost more than the entire Iraq War -- more than $100 billion (15%) more.
•Just the first two years of Obama's stimulus cost more than the entire cost of the Iraq War under President Bush, or six years of that war.
•Iraq War spending accounted for just 3.2% of all federal spending while it lasted.
•Iraq War spending was not even one quarter of what we spent on Medicare in the same time frame.
•Iraq War spending was not even 15% of the total deficit spending in that time frame. The cumulative deficit, 2003-2010, would have been four-point-something trillion dollars with or without the Iraq War.
•The Iraq War accounts for less than 8% of the federal debt held by the public at the end of 2010 ($9.031 trillion).
•During Bush's Iraq years, 2003-2008, the federal government spent more on education that it did on the Iraq War.(State and local governments spent about ten times more.)

I bet if I looked it up the cost for feeding and housing the blacks that are locked up in this coutry in a year would cost more than the Iraq war in a year.
A Nnoyed

Tonbridge, UK

#199 Feb 5, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Changing Birth Right Citizenship requires Amending the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment guarantees Citizenship to anyone born in America or within our jurisdiction.
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you are disingenuous to the point of possibly lying

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

that's an 'AND' not an 'OR'

I get the impression some people are happy to be invaded as long as the potential voting demographics work

England's last Labour government thought the same way but at least they had the decency to admit it was a horrendous mistake.
CRIMMIGRANTS

Danbury, CT

#200 Feb 5, 2013
How about we try SECURING THE BORDER.
ENFORCE all existing immigration laws.
NO MORE birthright citizenship, at least one parent MUST be a citizen.
MANDATORY E verify for all employees!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#201 Feb 5, 2013
CRIMMIGRANTS wrote:
How about we try SECURING THE BORDER.
ENFORCE all existing immigration laws.
NO MORE birthright citizenship, at least one parent MUST be a citizen.
MANDATORY E verify for all employees!
Number 3 will take amending the constitution; better get busy.....
CRIMMIGRANTS

Danbury, CT

#202 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Number 3 will take amending the constitution; better get busy.....
The wheels are in motion, rest assured.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#203 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Number 3 will take amending the constitution; better get busy.....
Read the 14th Amendment,carefully. It is being mis-interpreted on purpose by the States. you know that and you know why.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#204 Feb 5, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Republicans aren't jettisoning Free Trade Agreements, that's a futile argument. Free Trade is here to stay, and so long as emerging communities adapt and participate there's always going to be room on a shelf for their goods. Nobody expected when Nixon got off the plane in China, that the results some 40 years later would be China becoming a force in World Markets.
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ahh. you said it.

the keyword is "adapt". like you said quote, "as long as emerging communities adapt".

when our trade debt becomes more than we can deal with, then, the trade agreements will be discontinued.

another scenario which would cause the trade agreements to disappear.. a war. not necessary with china. but with someone (like north korea) which is an ally of china.

as for being a force in the markets... one only becomes a force when they start inventing things which benefit mankind. since china is only propagating things invented by others, they are not a force yet. they are only a puppet.

allowed to move only when the master allows it. if the master decides to stop playing the game, the puppet ceases to move.

comprendi?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#205 Feb 5, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Changing Birth Right Citizenship requires Amending the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment guarantees Citizenship to anyone born in America or within our jurisdiction.
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it's not "or", genius.

it's "and".

it reads "guarantee citizenship to anyone born in the usa AND is within our jurisdiction."

a child born to illegal aliens in the usa is NOT within our jurisdiction.

if the parents return to their home country, the usa has no authority to prevent the child from returning with it's parents.

get it?

commonsense for those who are not brain dead.

and as I have said all along... we've got some stupid people on capitol hill that are misinterpreting the laws.

they take the phrase "within our jurisdiction" too literally. they are defining the phrase as "being within our borders".

then, you ask... why would the founding fathers duplicate the same requirement? the answer.. they didn't.

a perfect example of cocaine using, marijuana smoking, brain dead, stupid hippies making decisions on capitol hill for us.

totally brain dead.

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