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With deadline looming, White House details cuts

There are 98 comments on the politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com story from Feb 25, 2013, titled With deadline looming, White House details cuts. In it, politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com reports that:

Food safety inspections, early education classrooms and mental health treatment are all at risk if massive forced spending cuts are allowed to take effect at the end of this week, the White House said Sunday.

Those cuts would accompany deep reductions in defense spending - including stalling maintenance on Navy ships - that are also poised to trigger March 1. In detailed reports for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, President Barack Obama's budget office spelled out how the cuts - which are the result of a stalemate between Congressional Republicans and the White House over reducing the federal deficit - will affect localities, putting the stakes of the budget debate in stark terms as Congress returns to Washington after a week-long break.

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Whizz Right By

United States

#62 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I'm not sending you a copy of the bill, so you'll just have to get over it. Google the cost of an MRI; depending on who does it and what is being scanned, the costs range from $1000-$5000. I had an MRI on my hip and the bill came to just a bit over $2500 with all the doctor & radiologist fees; TriCare only authorized $250, and my co-pay for that was $25.
I was actually pleasantly suprised that's all I owed.
If you have insurance, look at any medical procedure they have paid for; you'll see they also negotiated a lower price than what the hospital/doctor would normally charge for uninsured patients.
And who do you think picked up the rest of that MRI tab you were so pleasantly surprised about on the cost? Your 'surprise' was passed on to someone with a different insurance carrier, or who had cash. Now that ought to make you really proud of the social medicine the socialist are shoving down peoples' throats.

Hell why didn't you just ask for a free MRI? Oh.... why do that when you can make me and others pay for it.
lamer

Hopkins, MN

#63 Feb 27, 2013
Whizz Right By wrote:
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And who do you think picked up the rest of that MRI tab you were so pleasantly surprised about on the cost? Your 'surprise' was passed on to someone with a different insurance carrier, or who had cash. Now that ought to make you really proud of the social medicine the socialist are shoving down peoples' throats.
Hell why didn't you just ask for a free MRI? Oh.... why do that when you can make me and others pay for it.
Its all socialized to a point, even before obamacare so screaming SOCIALIST SCUM!!! over and over loses meaning quickly. And the way it was before, it was socialized at the extreme where you are uninsured and even a normal doctors visit for a common cold can be more than 1 makes in month. So they wait and hope they can recover from a common cold and turns out they cant so now its time for the ER where it gets socialized.

When have been cheaper and more efficent if you could get that care when it was just the common cold from a regular doctor instead of emergency care (more $) at an ER(more $).

So keep screaming "SOCIALISTS!!!" as if it were realy any different than before. Health care in general in this country is vastly overpriced much like many other basics.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#64 Feb 27, 2013
Whizz Right By wrote:
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And who do you think picked up the rest of that MRI tab you were so pleasantly surprised about on the cost? Your 'surprise' was passed on to someone with a different insurance carrier, or who had cash. Now that ought to make you really proud of the social medicine the socialist are shoving down peoples' throats.
Hell why didn't you just ask for a free MRI? Oh.... why do that when you can make me and others pay for it.
Anyone can get the exact same medical coverage I have; all you have to do is enlist and serve your country for 20 years. Though you better hurry, rumor has it the GOPasaurs are trying to get rid of the military retirement pay & healthcare benefits for future retirees.

If eveyone has the choice of joining Medicare, then it would be YOUR CHOICE to either join Medicare and get lower medical costs, or continue with a private insurance company and pay more.

Choice; so very American.
Whizz Right By

United States

#65 Feb 27, 2013
lamer wrote:
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Its all socialized to a point, even before obamacare so screaming SOCIALIST SCUM!!! over and over loses meaning quickly. And the way it was before, it was socialized at the extreme where you are uninsured and even a normal doctors visit for a common cold can be more than 1 makes in month. So they wait and hope they can recover from a common cold and turns out they cant so now its time for the ER where it gets socialized.
When have been cheaper and more efficent if you could get that care when it was just the common cold from a regular doctor instead of emergency care (more $) at an ER(more $).
So keep screaming "SOCIALISTS!!!" as if it were realy any different than before. Health care in general in this country is vastly overpriced much like many other basics.
Let me ask you a question? When a person goes into Starbucks and pays $5 for a cup of coffee that can be brewed a home for 12 cents, just add a little whipped cream, would you call that pricey? Or would you call it vanity?

Or how about someone who goes into a 5 star restaurant and pays $250 dollars for a steak, backed potato, and salad, with a glass of wine, where the same meal at a local Logan's Roadhouse only cost $25, would you call that pricey? Or would you call that vanity?

In the common market place, one of it's tenets is to charge a price of whatever the market will bear. The pricey people who want to feed their vanity drive up the prices for us all.

But there is another tenet that will also apply one of these days. It's called the "point of diminishing returns", and simply means that the price of goods, or services, will eventually exceed the point a reasonable person will be willing to pay-forcing the price downward for the producer, or serviceman, in order to stay in business.

Bottom line, you have a cold, that's not a visit to the doctor. You have a heart attack, be prepared for a hospital visit. But whatever you do, choose your doctor and hospital like you choose your next car.
Whizz Right By

United States

#66 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Anyone can get the exact same medical coverage I have; all you have to do is enlist and serve your country for 20 years. Though you better hurry, rumor has it the GOPasaurs are trying to get rid of the military retirement pay & healthcare benefits for future retirees.
If eveyone has the choice of joining Medicare, then it would be YOUR CHOICE to either join Medicare and get lower medical costs, or continue with a private insurance company and pay more.
Choice; so very American.
I just visited my VA doc last week. And I am a GOPasaur, so is he. You were doing okay until you make this a political issue. What other issue should I expect you to bring up next?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#68 Feb 27, 2013
Whizz Right By wrote:
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I just visited my VA doc last week. And I am a GOPasaur, so is he. You were doing okay until you make this a political issue. What other issue should I expect you to bring up next?
Pssst, healthcare benefits ARE a political issue.

Since: Apr 07

Oak Ridge, TN

#69 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I orginally enlisted in the 80's and served Gulf War I.
My brother enlisted in the 70's and served in Vietnam.
My uncle enlisted in the 50's and served in Korea.
My grandfather enlisted in the 30's and served in WW II.
My great-grandfather enlisted in the 1900's and served in WW I.
Another great-grandfather enlisted in the 1890's and served in the Spanish American war.
My great-great-grandfather enlisted in the 1870's.
2 of my great-great-great-grandfathers enlisted in the 1850's and served in the Civil War; one on each side.
My great-great-great-great-grandf ather enlisted in the 1820's.
My great-great-great-great-great- grandfather served in the Revolutionary War.
I have copies of all their enlistment/service contracts as part of my genealogy. NONE of them say ANYTHING about free medical care for the rest of their lives. Though my g5-grandfather was given 80 acres of land in what would become Tennessee in return for his service in the Revolutionary War.
In addition, another of my g5-grandfathers served in the French & Indian wars in the 1760's, but there are no records available other than the notation on his tombstone.
In addition, 4 of my ancestors served in the Prussian military.
In addition, my nephew is currently serving with the Marines.....
Yes, I come from a long line of military service, and only one of them was killed in action (WW II, battle of Leyte).
Just as I thought boot.

When I enlisted in 1968 the free health care clause was part of my enlistment contract they removed it in 78 or 79 from what I understand.
Lifer

United States

#70 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Pssst, healthcare benefits ARE a political issue.
You are a real wiseass Sheeple. Whizz was pointing out you're blaming Republicans for something they have no control over, and that's your health coverage, or the loss thereof.

So what's with the cute little "Pssst", you can't carry on a manly debate with a man without being cute?
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#71 Feb 27, 2013
Wheres the popcorn? Watching Liberals not get their way is fun.
US No 1

Colonial Heights, VA

#72 Feb 27, 2013
The federal government should furlough half of the President's and Vice President's security detail. Heck, if it's okay to cut airport screeners and border patrol agents, who help keep common Americans safe, why not the executive branch?
US No 1

Colonial Heights, VA

#73 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Anyone can get the exact same medical coverage I have; all you have to do is enlist and serve your country for 20 years. Though you better hurry, rumor has it the GOPasaurs are trying to get rid of the military retirement pay & healthcare benefits for future retirees.
If eveyone has the choice of joining Medicare, then it would be YOUR CHOICE to either join Medicare and get lower medical costs, or continue with a private insurance company and pay more.
Choice; so very American.
The same federal government who can't keep a promise of lifetime medical care for retirees is now going to cover all Americans. What a joke.
P.S. Under Obama's administration US service personnel who have not completed their enlistment are being forced out.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#74 Feb 27, 2013
Jim Hayden wrote:
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Just as I thought boot.
When I enlisted in 1968 the free health care clause was part of my enlistment contract they removed it in 78 or 79 from what I understand.
NO, it wasn't.
NO, they didn't.

If it WAS in the contract, surely SOMEONE of the MILLIONS of veterans who served during that period would have a copy of it.

Hmmmm, what a coincidence that NO ONE of the MILLIONS who served can seem to come up with a copy of their enlisment record which contains your mythical clause......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#75 Feb 27, 2013
Lifer wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a real wiseass Sheeple. Whizz was pointing out you're blaming Republicans for something they have no control over, and that's your health coverage, or the loss thereof.
So what's with the cute little "Pssst", you can't carry on a manly debate with a man without being cute?
Pssst, I'm a cute wiseass. It's one of my best characteristics.

Btw, Republicans DO have control over my healthcare coverage, being that they can change the law at any time and get rid of it; which is their intent.

Thankfully the Dems will stop them as long as they control the Senate or the White House.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#76 Feb 27, 2013
US No 1 wrote:
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The same federal government who can't keep a promise of lifetime medical care for retirees is now going to cover all Americans. What a joke.
P.S. Under Obama's administration US service personnel who have not completed their enlistment are being forced out.
The govt never promised lietime medical care for anyone. That has already been disproven in court.

Everyone in the military serves at the needs of the military; they can kick you out or keep you in as they see fit. Reagan, Bush, & Shrub all kept servicemembers on active duty after their enlistment contracts were up because they were "needed for the duration".

That IS in every contract, unlike the mythical lifetime healthcare b.s.

Since: Apr 07

Oak Ridge, TN

#77 Feb 27, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
NO, it wasn't.
NO, they didn't.
If it WAS in the contract, surely SOMEONE of the MILLIONS of veterans who served during that period would have a copy of it.
Hmmmm, what a coincidence that NO ONE of the MILLIONS who served can seem to come up with a copy of their enlisment record which contains your mythical clause......
We did we had several copies and the court through them out because they were copies and not originals.

Here is some food to think about. You can either continue to prove me wrong and get us nowhere or we can start working together to improve things for our fellow Veterans and our men and women in uniform. I have been at this for over 40 years now and I do know what I am doing.

Back just a few years ago a group of 20 plus military retirees refused to work with the rest of us and we all ended up on the losing end of the stick. We needed to come together back 20 years ago when myself and other tried to bring the disabled Veterans and retired Veterans together to fight as one. so now you have a second chance. Join us or get the f out of our way.
WTF

United States

#78 Feb 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The govt never promised lietime medical care for anyone. That has already been disproven in court.
Everyone in the military serves at the needs of the military; they can kick you out or keep you in as they see fit. Reagan, Bush, & Shrub all kept servicemembers on active duty after their enlistment contracts were up because they were "needed for the duration".
That IS in every contract, unlike the mythical lifetime healthcare b.s.
So you were present when this guy was recruited in the military? And when I was in the military lifetime medical care was promised during boot camp multiple times. I would invite any other veteran to either back up what I have said or counter it.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#79 Feb 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone can get the exact same medical coverage I have; all you have to do is enlist and serve your country for 20 years. Though you better hurry, rumor has it the GOPasaurs are trying to get rid of the military retirement pay & healthcare benefits for future retirees.
If eveyone has the choice of joining Medicare, then it would be YOUR CHOICE to either join Medicare and get lower medical costs, or continue with a private insurance company and pay more.
Choice; so very American.
It will soon be Spring over Saginaw Bay. I was out there last summer, it was lovely. Be Happy!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#80 Feb 28, 2013
Jim Hayden wrote:
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We did we had several copies and the court through them out because they were copies and not originals.
Here is some food to think about. You can either continue to prove me wrong and get us nowhere or we can start working together to improve things for our fellow Veterans and our men and women in uniform. I have been at this for over 40 years now and I do know what I am doing.
Back just a few years ago a group of 20 plus military retirees refused to work with the rest of us and we all ended up on the losing end of the stick. We needed to come together back 20 years ago when myself and other tried to bring the disabled Veterans and retired Veterans together to fight as one. so now you have a second chance. Join us or get the f out of our way.
Nope, I won't lie or support your lies.

If we can't tell the truth, then we have no moral ground to stand on.

I fully support caring for our fellow veterans, but I also recognize the fact that the pension & healthcare benefits for retirees are better than any other retired person gets- private or govt.

Rather than whining about a mythical "lifetime healthcare benefit" for people who retired at age 38 (like I did), I'd rather we work to ensure our limited tax dollars are spent on those disabled vets and injured vets coming back from our endless wars and finding themselves unemployed.

THAT is where we need to put our money & effort. The overwhelming majority of retirees don't need any assistance and are doing quite well.
Whoa Up

United States

#81 Feb 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Pssst, I'm a cute wiseass. It's one of my best characteristics.
Btw, Republicans DO have control over my healthcare coverage, being that they can change the law at any time and get rid of it; which is their intent.
Thankfully the Dems will stop them as long as they control the Senate or the White House.
"Republicans 'DO' have control over my healthcare coverage", you posted.

"They 'can change the law an any time' and get rid of it", you posted.

"Thankfully the 'Dems will stop' them as long as they control the 'Senate' or the White House", you posted.

If Dems and White House can stop Republicans from changing the healthcare law, then where is this Republican control you allege?

Well, which is it britches. Or do you just throw stuff against the wall to see if it has sticking properties?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#82 Feb 28, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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It will soon be Spring over Saginaw Bay. I was out there last summer, it was lovely. Be Happy!
My daffodils & hyacinth are poking up already, and of course it's snowing now; typical Michigan weather!

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