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Top StoryTrump says more must be done to protect children after Florida school shooting

There are 262 comments on the ABC News 4 Charleston story from Feb 21, 2018, titled Top StoryTrump says more must be done to protect children after Florida school shooting. In it, ABC News 4 Charleston reports that:

As a grieving Florida community demanded action on guns, President Donald Trump on Tuesday directed the Justice Department to move to ban devices like the rapid-fire bump stocks used in last year's Las Vegas massacre. It was a small sign of movement on the gun violence issue that has long tied Washington in knots.

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#1 Feb 21, 2018
Schumer and Nancy, let em eat cake, Pelosi will stop any movement that will help.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#3 Feb 21, 2018
RustyS wrote:
Schumer and Nancy, let em eat cake, Pelosi will stop any movement that will help.
You get anymore stupid your head will explode ...

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#4 Feb 21, 2018
How about "demanding" we have armed guards at schools?

Some puke will think twice about "shootin-em-up" if there's a trained ex-military vet patrolling the grounds.

I mean if we can have armed guards protecting banks, politicians, and "celebrities", why not children?
Simplejim

United States

#5 Feb 21, 2018
BHM5267 wrote:
How about "demanding" we have armed guards at schools?

Some puke will think twice about "shootin-em-up" if there's a trained ex-military vet patrolling the grounds.

I mean if we can have armed guards protecting banks, politicians, and "celebrities", why not children?
They are gonna get the guns off streets it's a matter of time
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#6 Feb 21, 2018
Simplejim wrote:
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They are gonna get the guns off streets it's a matter of time
They will never get the guns off the streets.

Taking guns away from lawful citizens for starters will NEVER happen and would do no good regardless.

It's time to remove the armed security for all pro-gun control Democrat politicians. They refuse to protect our children with armed security? Then they should have their own armed security taken away!

March on the progressive Democrats in Washington AND DEMAND ARMED SECURITY FOR OUR CHILDRENS' SCHOOLS!
Trump is a joke

Coquitlam, Canada

#7 Feb 21, 2018
BHM5267 wrote:
How about "demanding" we have armed guards at schools?

Some puke will think twice about "shootin-em-up" if there's a trained ex-military vet patrolling the grounds.

I mean if we can have armed guards protecting banks, politicians, and "celebrities", why not children?
Why not arm all the children and teachers in elementary schools?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Americans can be so clueless it's funny!
The Green Watch Dog

Oklahoma City, OK

#8 Feb 21, 2018
BHM5267 wrote:
How about "demanding" we have armed guards at schools?

Some puke will think twice about "shootin-em-up" if there's a trained ex-military vet patrolling the grounds.

I mean if we can have armed guards protecting banks, politicians, and "celebrities", why not children?
Thats one step to consider, but the real issue is diminishing the problem! You need to think it through! With the total commitment of our government, we need to go all the way and take possession of all firearms, with the exception of weapons used specifically to hunt wild game with.
Enough Already

United States

#9 Feb 21, 2018
BHM5267 wrote:
How about "demanding" we have armed guards at schools?

Some puke will think twice about "shootin-em-up" if there's a trained ex-military vet patrolling the grounds.

I mean if we can have armed guards protecting banks, politicians, and "celebrities", why not children?
OK, how about grocery stores, theatres, malls, fast food establishments, hardware stores, preschools, nursing homes, hospitals, restaurants, universities, medical buildings, parks, outdoor music venues, hotels, museums ...

Pretty much any of these places has children in or around them at any time.

So now in addition to being the country with the highest per capita in prison, we can strive to be the country that requires armed guards posted at every public place.

Questions: will these guards be provided by federal or state governments?

Or will they be county or city employees?

If so, where does the money come from to pay for all these highly trained and fully vetted individuals Whilst cutting taxes?

Or are we going to make the private companies pay for this?

And if private companies or businesses have to pay for this, many will not be able to stay in business.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#10 Feb 21, 2018
Take away Chuck and Nancy's armed security!

DEMAND THAT THESE PROGRESSIVES PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AS THEY PROTECT THEMSELVES!
Kilroy

Abilene, TX

#11 Feb 21, 2018
Well Donald what are u proposing. A ban on bump stock? Why didn't u suggest that or get some legislation going in the wake of the Las Vegas shooting. Oh yes, it was to soon. Can u really go against your base or will they call you a liberal democrat? Maybe you talk about it now but do nothing.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#12 Feb 21, 2018
Enough Already wrote:
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OK, how about grocery stores, theatres, malls, fast food establishments, hardware stores, preschools, nursing homes, hospitals, restaurants, universities, medical buildings, parks, outdoor music venues, hotels, museums ...
What about them?

Many of these establishments already have armed security. It's an outrage and shameful that we are not protecting our own children with the same security.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#13 Feb 21, 2018
Enough Already wrote:
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OK, how about grocery stores, theatres, malls, fast food establishments, hardware stores, preschools, nursing homes, hospitals, restaurants, universities, medical buildings, parks, outdoor music venues, hotels, museums ...

Pretty much any of these places has children in or around them at any time.

So now in addition to being the country with the highest per capita in prison, we can strive to be the country that requires armed guards posted at every public place.

Questions: will these guards be provided by federal or state governments?

Or will they be county or city employees?

If so, where does the money come from to pay for all these highly trained and fully vetted individuals Whilst cutting taxes?

Or are we going to make the private companies pay for this?

And if private companies or businesses have to pay for this, many will not be able to stay in business.
And the money will come right out of the local government's budget. Our children are more important than the golden parachute retirement plans of politicians.

We are going to make progressives pay for this since the problem stems from progressive culture and progressive policies.
Besara

Bellevue, NE

#14 Feb 21, 2018
Simplejim wrote:
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They are gonna get the guns off streets it's a matter of time
Just like the drugs?

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#15 Feb 21, 2018
Trump is a joke wrote:
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Why not arm all the children and teachers in elementary schools?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Americans can be so clueless it's funny!
Having a trained person protecting the students is funny to you?

All that cold up dere eh must have frozen that grey mass you call a brain.
Nemotron

Edmond, OK

#16 Feb 21, 2018
The Green Watch Dog wrote:
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Thats one step to consider, but the real issue is diminishing the problem! You need to think it through! With the total commitment of our government, we need to go all the way and take possession of all firearms, with the exception of weapons used specifically to hunt wild game with.
Who is "we"? Are "you" going to confiscate them from criminals?
Are "'you" going to walk up to someone that hasn't broken any laws and demand their firearms despite their right to keep and bear them?

Of course not, you're going to demand that people WITH firearms take them away from other people WITH firearms.

You obviously didn't think this through yourself.

Define "total committment of the government"?
The government that is powerful enough to grant privileges is powerful enough to take them away.

Not that a willing serf like yourself cares.
Nemotron

Edmond, OK

#17 Feb 21, 2018
spocko wrote:
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You get anymore stupid your head will explode ...
Ah yes, Spocko the Wonderturd

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#18 Feb 21, 2018
The Green Watch Dog wrote:
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Thats one step to consider, but the real issue is diminishing the problem! You need to think it through! With the total commitment of our government, we need to go all the way and take possession of all firearms, with the exception of weapons used specifically to hunt wild game with.
Certainly. Let's throw the baby out with the bathwater. Forget that constitution thing.

I find it interesting that the concept of "rounding up all the guns" is conceivable to the left but they can't imagine rounding up all the illegals in this country.
Trump is a joke

Coquitlam, Canada

#19 Feb 21, 2018
BHM5267 wrote:
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Certainly. Let's throw the baby out with the bathwater. Forget that constitution thing.

I find it interesting that the concept of "rounding up all the guns" is conceivable to the left but they can't imagine rounding up all the illegals in this country.
I can't believe right-wingers worry about illegals while America is drenched in the blood of its own children!

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. "

"The review of 2010 World Health Organization data also revealed that despite having a similar rate of nonlethal crimes as those countries, the United States has a much higher rate of deadly violence, mostly due to the higher rate of gun-related murders.

The researchers also found that compared to people in the other high-income nations, Americans are seven times more likely to die from violence and six times more likely to be accidentally killed with a gun."

"Even though it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the United States accounted for 82 percent of all gun deaths. The United States also accounted for 90 percent of all women killed by guns, the study found. Ninety-one percent of children under 14 who died by gun violence were in the United States. And 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed by guns were in the United States, the study found."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deat ...
Nematron

Edmond, OK

#20 Feb 21, 2018
Trump is a joke wrote:
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I can't believe right-wingers worry about illegals while America is drenched in the blood of its own children!

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. "

"The review of 2010 World Health Organization data also revealed that despite having a similar rate of nonlethal crimes as those countries, the United States has a much higher rate of deadly violence, mostly due to the higher rate of gun-related murders.

The researchers also found that compared to people in the other high-income nations, Americans are seven times more likely to die from violence and six times more likely to be accidentally killed with a gun."

"Even though it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the United States accounted for 82 percent of all gun deaths. The United States also accounted for 90 percent of all women killed by guns, the study found. Ninety-one percent of children under 14 who died by gun violence were in the United States. And 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed by guns were in the United States, the study found."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deat ...
More tripe from the gutless Canucktard.

Should you be busy sucking on Trudeau's "personhood"?

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#21 Feb 21, 2018
Enough Already wrote:
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OK, how about grocery stores, theatres, malls, fast food establishments, hardware stores, preschools, nursing homes, hospitals, restaurants, universities, medical buildings, parks, outdoor music venues, hotels, museums ...

Pretty much any of these places has children in or around them at any time.

So now in addition to being the country with the highest per capita in prison, we can strive to be the country that requires armed guards posted at every public place.

Questions: will these guards be provided by federal or state governments?

Or will they be county or city employees?

If so, where does the money come from to pay for all these highly trained and fully vetted individuals Whilst cutting taxes?

Or are we going to make the private companies pay for this?

And if private companies or businesses have to pay for this, many will not be able to stay in business.
Hate to break it to you, but there are many malls, theaters, universities, etc. that ALREADY have armed guards patrolling. Private companies decide what level of security they wish and take that into consideration when budgeting. Which still begs the question, if a mall can have armed security, why not a school?

BTW, no one is talking about posting guards in every public place. That's a red herring on your part to distract from a perfectly good and sane idea. As for prisons, if you do the crime, you do the time. Beats having the criminals on the street.

These guards could easily be brought under the umbrella of the VA or the DHS. The VA already offers employment services for vets so it would be simple to add security jobs to those lists. If that doesn't seem feasible, the DHS could incorporate those jobs. No one is forcing districts to consider this, but if they do, I'm sure that a careful look at the budget could pay for them. If they have money for an assistant to the assistant principal, they have money for this.

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