Ga. to require drug tests for welfare benefits

Apr 16, 2012 Full story: WLS-AM Chicago 961

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal has signed legislation that would require thousands of people applying for welfare to pass a drug test before they could receive benefits.

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Kermudgeon

Clarence, NY

#916 Apr 22, 2012
HATE wrote:
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I was a Ranger.....And outside of the deep south very few KKK nazi Klans scum exist....Have met some like I said if they mind there own business and dont spread there hate I leave them alone...If they try to be the racist scum bags they are THEY GET POUNDED......My dad fought againt the nazi in WW2 and I have fought for freedom for 12 years and my sona nd daughter are fighting now in the military for freedom.....WE WONT LET YOU FASCIST NAZI WRECK THIS NATION......We have come to far to go back.
AMEN!!!
Rambeaux

Andreas, PA

#917 Apr 22, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>1st KKK
1st KKK? 2nd KKK? 3rd KKK? I don't know what you are talking about and neither do you.
Jewish murder of Christ

Chicago, IL

#918 Apr 22, 2012
there is only one KKK = republicans

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#919 Apr 22, 2012
Rambeaux wrote:
<quoted text>1st KKK? 2nd KKK? 3rd KKK? I don't know what you are talking about and neither do you.
I know what I am talking about, you might want to go to the public Library see if they have any books on the KKK.

First Klan: 1860s

Second Klan, 1920s

Third Klan, 1960s-

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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#920 Apr 22, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know it true, go to Indiana it has the most detailed records of any state on the KKK. Indiana Had the biggest & largest Membership of KKK members of any state.
Here from the article
"It is not true that Harry S Truman or Warren G. Harding were members."
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
Membership
Historians in recent years have obtained membership rosters of some local units and matched the names against city directory and local records to create statistical profiles of the membership. Big city newspapers were unanimously hostile and often ridiculed the Klansmen as ignorant farmers. Detailed analysis from Indiana shows the stereotype was false:
Indiana's Klansmen represented a wide cross section of society: they were not disproportionately urban or rural, nor were they significantly more or less likely than other members of society to be from the working class, middle class, or professional ranks. Klansmen were Protestants, of course, but they cannot be described exclusively or even predominantly as fundamentalists. In reality, their religious affiliations mirrored the whole of white Protestant society, including those who did not belong to any church.
The Klan was successful in recruiting throughout the country, but the membership turned over rapidly. Still, millions joined and millions dropped out. Membership was secret but very few prominent people admitted to being members. It is not true that Harry S Truman or Warren G. Harding were members. There were chapters in every state and in Canada, most notably in Saskatchewan, where there was a large Irish Protestant klan movement against Catholics.[36]
This Klan was operated as a profit-making venture by its leaders, and participated in the boom in fraternal organizations at the time. Organizers signed up hundreds of new members, who paid initiation fees and bought KKK costumes. The organizer kept half the money and sent the rest to state or national officials. When the organizer was done with an area, he organized a huge rally, often with burning crosses and perhaps a ceremonial presentation of a Bible to a local Protestant minister. He left town with all the money. The local units operated like many fraternal organizations, occasionally bringing in speakers. The state and national officials had little or no control over the locals and rarely or never attempted to forge them into political activist groups.
Political influence
The Second Klan differed from the original in that while the first Klan had been Democratic and Southern, this new Klan, although it still boasted members from the Democratic Party, was to a greater degree Republican and was influential throughout the United States, with some political influence on politicians in several states.
I guess you were too busy to read the history on the KKK that I posted, so no reason to post it again.

I never said President Truman was a member of the KKK, nor did I say that all the people attending the Democratic Convention belonged to the Klan... I said they supported the Klan, and the Klan supported them. BTW the 2nd KKK was started where... in Georgia... and there weren't a lot of Republicans in Georgia in the 20's.

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#921 Apr 22, 2012
Jewish murder of Christ wrote:
there is only one KKK = republicans
Actually, the Republicans that where involved in the 2nd KKK in the 1920's actually had a good set of ethical and moral values to adhere to which majority did.

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#922 Apr 22, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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I guess you were too busy to read the history on the KKK that I posted, so no reason to post it again.
I never said President Truman was a member of the KKK, nor did I say that all the people attending the Democratic Convention belonged to the Klan... I said they supported the Klan, and the Klan supported them. BTW the 2nd KKK was started where... in Georgia... and there weren't a lot of Republicans in Georgia in the 20's.
I agree, there wasnt alot Republicans in Georgia in the 20's.
just another guy

Brooklyn, NY

#923 Apr 22, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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No they were led by that famous Republican, President Harry Truman and the falsely labled Democratic National Committee,(which we know was actually a Republican front group).
He probably found 1 or 2 Republicans that the Klan supported, and tried to use that as evidence that Republicans were a KKK support group. While it's true that David Duke is a Republican, Republicans tend to shy away from the likes of him. However, Robert Byrd was a Democrat, and the Democrats made him their Senate leader. Huge difference!
I am somewhat of a mutt. Mostly from Germany but also a bit of everything. I could care less what race people are. I have a low tolerance for bullies, tyrant, and socialists. Now if somebody tries to harm my family they will find I am ready to defend them even if I am a cripple.

The people I want to associate with have a good work ethic, are honest, and respect our founding principles. Notice I didn't mention race.

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Huntington Station, NY

#924 Apr 23, 2012
Jewish murder of Christ wrote:
there is only one KKK = republicans
You're a prefect example of why the surrendercrats want the masses uneducated. The KKK is a southern Democrat Organization. The Republicans freed the slaves.

Liberals divide the country into women, jews, latinos and all these different groups when it suits them, but refuse to address root issues when queried. If the lamestream media were honest, the damage wrought would be obvious.

There's no Republican war on women or immigrants.

It's a Democrat war on America.

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#925 Apr 23, 2012
Virginia Patriot wrote:
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I will explain this in a different way.
I would rather give up $50 from my paycheck for welfare benefits to those who need it and are tested for drug/alcohol use rather than just $30 from each paycheck to be given to those who abuses drugs and the welfare system.
After all, welfare is supposed to give a hand, not a handout.
My ideal system:
.
You have some fair ideas, I think they would just end up costing more in thel ong run.

*Section 8 housing will be kept up to military standards with regular weekly inspections. Failure to maintain such standards would lead to penalties including up to eviction.(If you want to live as if in a sty or a slum, then buy your own place to live).

<<<Who is going to pay inspectors all across the nation to do these weekly inspections? The tax payer?>>>

*Food stamps would be limited to the purchase of breads, milk, cheese, vegetables & fruit and beans.(Want to eat candy and steak? Then buy them with your own money).

<<<Food stamps only cover the items you mentioned, along with meat. We should be teaching people how to eat healthy and spend less money. I do it all the time and I'm not on food stamps.>>>

*Draw a $400 month welfare check? Then you will perform that amount of labor at minimum wage based on your abilities.

<<<Absolutely agree. Community service should be required>>>>

*All recipients would be tested for drugs, alcohol and tobacco.
Again, is the taxpayer going to be footing the bill for all these tests, personnel and testing centers?

*Get caught dancing, working on roofs or other forms of labor while being "paid under the table" while drawing welfare? Then all welfare benefits ever received by that person would be reimbursed with a 10% penalty and the highest interest rate permitted by law. Can't pay it back? Then prison is the next option.(I'd rather pay to have such thieves in prison than I would to pay for them to steal off of the 365 million American citizens.)

<<<The cost of debtor's prison would be far more than you can imagine, especially when millions of children will have to be placed in foster care at tax payer expense.>>>

*All non-mentally retarded recipients will be required to obtain a GED and/or trade schooling within the first year of drawing welfare benefits. While there are many free and low cost programs for these services available, the recipient will be responsible to obtain it.

<<<I like this idea. We should have more affordable education in America though>>>

*There will be no increase of benefits if and when another child is born into the home. The father's name must be provided, and he will be required to pay support. Don't know who the father is? Then you will be required to pay for all paternal tests until he is located.(There is a price to pay for whorish behaviors, and the cost will no longer be paid by the tax payers.)

<<<I agree with this also. Too many men are not being forced to step up and take on their responsibilities>>>

*Not a Natural born citizen (someone born in the U.S.)? Then you will not receive welfare.

<<<It is not illegal citizens getting welfare, it is their American born babies who qualify. You will have to make changes to the immigration laws that give citizenship to anyone born here>>>

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#926 Apr 23, 2012
just another guy wrote:
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I am somewhat of a mutt. Mostly from Germany but also a bit of everything. I could care less what race people are. I have a low tolerance for bullies, tyrant, and socialists. Now if somebody tries to harm my family they will find I am ready to defend them even if I am a cripple.
The people I want to associate with have a good work ethic, are honest, and respect our founding principles. Notice I didn't mention race.
What are our "founding principles?"

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#927 Apr 23, 2012
I knew it. No one could answer that question "what are our founding principles?"

Whenever I ask these questions I can never get a straight answer. And that's how I know that whoever posted such nonsense is simply parroting something they heard.
Rambeaux

West Chester, PA

#928 Apr 23, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text> I know what I am talking about, you might want to go to the public Library see if they have any books on the KKK.
First Klan: 1860s
Second Klan, 1920s
Third Klan, 1960s-
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
My apologies, you are right. I did google the info right after I made the post. BTW my grandfather was a Klansman and he was also a Baptist minister in Alabama. Held the post in his Kleagle of Grand Klud (chaplain). As a young teen, I met Robert Shelton who other Klan members referred to as "Shorty" (because he was so tall).

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#929 Apr 23, 2012
Rambeaux wrote:
<quoted text>My apologies, you are right. I did google the info right after I made the post. BTW my grandfather was a Klansman and he was also a Baptist minister in Alabama. Held the post in his Kleagle of Grand Klud (chaplain). As a young teen, I met Robert Shelton who other Klan members referred to as "Shorty" (because he was so tall).
I consider your Grandfather a good man from what you post I would assume he was involved in the 2nd KKK and they were good people.

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#930 Apr 23, 2012
Rambeaux wrote:
<quoted text>My apologies, you are right. I did google the info right after I made the post. BTW my grandfather was a Klansman and he was also a Baptist minister in Alabama. Held the post in his Kleagle of Grand Klud (chaplain). As a young teen, I met Robert Shelton who other Klan members referred to as "Shorty" (because he was so tall).
Robert Shelton was involved in the 3rd KKK

Robert Shelton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shelton_ (Ku_Klux_Klan)
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#931 Apr 23, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>actually it wasnt Carter Paul Volcker said, but the Federal Reserves Policy, Paul Volcker even admitted that they were doing everything possible to end inflation in the United States and it cost carter re-election because of Fed Policy & jobs losses in the 1980's where terrible. Thing with Reagan was he was a Democrat(old left) and switched Republican when the Democratic party came under the(New Left) and true those democrats that supported Reagan where the New Deal Democrats(old left). The Pseudo Liberals(Old Left) like Reagan he abandoned the Democratic Party instead of standing up for their beliefs & values but choose to reshape the Republican Party which failed as we can see today with the Republican Party. One can say the the Current Republican party is the New Right & the Tea Party Movement is the Old Right.
The New American Economy
The Failure of Reaganomics and a New Way Forward
http://us.macmillan.com/thenewamericaneconomy...
As a domestic policy advisor to Ronald Reagan, Bruce Bartlett was one of the originators of Reaganomics, the supply-side economic theory that conservatives have clung to for decades. InThe New American Economy, Bartlett goes back to the economic roots that made Impostor a bestseller and abandons the conservative dogma in favor of a policy strongly based on what’s worked in the past. Marshalling compelling history and economics, he explains how economic theories that may be perfectly valid at one moment in time under one set of circumstances tend to lose validity over time because they are misapplied under different circumstances. Bartlett makes a compelling, historically-based case for large tax increases, once anathema to him and his economic allies. In The New American Economy, Bartlett seeks to clarify a compelling and way forward for the American economy.
New Left
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left
Back when Reagan was in office there were about half as many people in the U.S. as there are now, there were very, very few illegals from Mexico back then, there was plenty of oil in Saudi Arabia. Heck, I was working for Cheney's buddy, Steve Bechtel when Reagan was in office, working on the Saudi Arabia pipeline and SA airport too. The Repubs cut a deal with Saudi Arabia to keep oil on the dollar and for the Saudis to give American companies big contracting deals when the newly oil rich Saudia Arabia wanted to build big cities. If you have very few people, hardly anyone on welfare, plenty of jobs, then trickle down economics works out okay. Today it is a new world. Today we have one half of one percent of the people owning most of the country and we have a huge, huge underclass of unintelligent people on welfare, like 45 million people on food stamps. Plus, since Reagan's time, wages went stagnant, they stayed the same for about the last 30 years. So you are right that economic planning has to change according to what a country is like. Unless we were able to highly educate the masses and raise wages up to meet inflation there is no way to create a middle class like we had in the past. And, if you tax the one percenters more, but you have a huge underclass, all it does is create more welfare and crimes and more wasted tax money on prisons, on the court system, etc. So it's a matter of dealing with a massive number of high school dropouts on welfare and having a tiny rich overclass, both at the same time, IMO.

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#933 Apr 23, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
I knew it. No one could answer that question "what are our founding principles?"
Whenever I ask these questions I can never get a straight answer. And that's how I know that whoever posted such nonsense is simply parroting something they heard.
Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't really want anyone to answer. Unfortunately, TOPIX doesn't let me delete my previous response, the founding principles, so your above statement, like so many of your others, is just B.S.

Do you still think the Democratic Convention and Harry Truman are Republicans?

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#934 Apr 23, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
I knew it. No one could answer that question "what are our founding principles?"
Whenever I ask these questions I can never get a straight answer. And that's how I know that whoever posted such nonsense is simply parroting something they heard.
Sorry about that last response, I had you confused with a different liberal.

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#935 Apr 23, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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Sorry about that last response, I had you confused with a different liberal.
No problem. You couldn't answer the question anyway, like most conservatives.
just another guy

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#936 Apr 23, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
I knew it. No one could answer that question "what are our founding principles?"
Whenever I ask these questions I can never get a straight answer. And that's how I know that whoever posted such nonsense is simply parroting something they heard.
Did you stop to think I had not been back to this thread yet? No you didn't get an instant answer so you act like a little baby.

Our main founding principle is liberty. Liberty by having very little intrusive government. By having very low taxes.

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