Generation Y job-seekers hit hard

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The land of milk and honey is souring for Generation Y, just as its members get their careers into full swing. Full Story

“based on morphology like DNA”

Since: Jun 08

Vermont USA

#220 Jan 18, 2009
No need to be harsh to the new generation there thug wannabe. You are just jealous of the mental capacity of the new up and coming generation. How did you two fix society. Information fixes everything and those who sit at the computer solving problems all the same. How transcriptional positions who have been sitting at computers for thirty years now fixing your medical records.
As for "Janitorial" from Australia they must have been slighted by some kid. Don't let all kids how one act speak for all. Both of you give me break.
Truth and Justice wrote:
Welcome to the REAL WORLD, kids...

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#221 Jan 18, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
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First part, do you actually believe our country's financial problems are primarily due to the building of new schools for immigrant children? If so, you are beyond stupid and not worth arguing with.
Second part, you ACTUALLY CAN have a massive quantity of workers and have a high quality of life. I don't even know where to start explaining all the ways your statement is wrong. The population surges, economic expansions, and technological improvements that define this country's history is evidence of that. Quality of life depends on worker productivity and fair compensation. More workers allow for greater specialization, which further benefits the economy.
Have you spent time in China and India? Only a small portion of those populations have risen to true middle class status and it isn't from lack of work or initiative. I have spent time in both countries, witnessed the work ethic, witnessed the frustration and poverty. Have you noticed the ongoing decline of the middle class in the United States. I have. The United States cannot support an exploding population, the infrastructure is lacking, the natural resources are unavailable, the national debt makes it cost prohibitive unless you want to just keep printing funny money and driving the nation further into debt, and no matter how hard the present exploding population has worked, the middle class keeps shrinking.

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#222 Jan 18, 2009
Freddy Pickle wrote:
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Alot of the infrastructure isn't even old enough to be stretched to the limit. And we can thank George Bush, the Boomers and the Jonesers for those trillions of dollars of debt. If we hadn't been at war the past 8 years, we'd have had the cash to take care of America.
Regardless, the debt is there and to continue to pay the federal reserve to loan the government funny money at interest when all the federal reserve does is order more funny money from the printers is part and parcel of economic instability surrounding the dollar today.
The infrastructure IS stretched to the limit, the power grid is over taxed and power companies estimate nearly 150 billion will need to be spent to keep per capita capacity at it's present rate into 2050, a growing number of schools are overcrowded, hospitals are underpaid by federal medical funding to the tune of billions, water supplies are threatened (San Diego is now recycling toilet water for drinking), national parks are being trashed which ought to piss off the bleeding heart environmentalists, and the fiscal burden of repairing all the damage done by the influx of foreigners is estimated to be 1.6 trillion dollars.
Illegal aliens don't even go to school. They're locked up in state and federal institutions waiting to be send back home.
Then who is doing all these jobs that Americans allegedly won't do if the estimated 12-20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. are all locked up?
Foreign-born students =/= illegal immigrants. Nuff Said.
Not all, but some of them are. Why else would there be in state tuition laws on the books for illegal aliens?
Of course they do. And the easiest folks for them to blame are the ones nativists have been blaming since the Jamestown days: new immigrants. Of course nativists blame them, they can't really defend themselves. They've been blaming them literally for over 300 years and been using the same arguments for just as long. All of those arguments have been proven to be false and they will be proven to be false in regards to these new immigrants.
As a matter of fact, these new immigrants will use those same arguments in a generation or two when blaming the next new immigrant group for all their problems when times get tough. Thats what nativists do.
Immigration works best when the inbound population maintains the fiscal and economic status quo. When you increase the inbound numbers beyond a nation's capacity to accommodate, the influx becomes harmful and must be reduced. Compare this to putting too many people on an airplane. Regulating the number of people inbound into a nation is no more "nativist" (which is a code word for racist) than regulating the number of passengers on an airplane.

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#223 Jan 18, 2009
The Chinese middle class (the largest in the world) is actually growing every year. The Indian middle class, while still a bit behind the US's, is quickly catching up. Also if you take into account the EU's middle class (which is also growing), you can easily see what we're doing wrong and what the rest of the world is doing right.
Yes, we are importing foreign workers while more than half a million Americans per month lose their jobs. We are running the printing presses trying to spend our way out of debt.
They're growing, expanding the economies, and rolling with the punches.
No, they aren't. China is sending workers home to their villages, India is also in a recession.
We're still in the Cold War, destroying our middle class because a few zillionaires want to keep screwing us into the third world. Not on my watch. Like I said, I have a daughter and I'm scared to death of America will be like for her when she's my age. Folks like you are content to just sit back and let the robber barons keep robbing us because you're to busy bashing on immigrants to open your eyes and see whats really going on.
Cite one post with link and quote where I have bashed immigrants.
Were your ancestors immigrants? Mine were. They came from all four corners of Europe and came here to live the American Dream. They worked hard, paid their taxes, said their prayers and paid nativists like you no mind as they collectively helped turn this country into number freaking one. You wanna talk about
Since life is largely believed to have originated on what is now the African continent, everyone is African if they trace their roots back far enough. Regardless, your code word for racism fails to deal with the harsh realities of introducing a large number of workers into a shrinking job market. You agree that the middle class is shrinking, introducing more competition for those jobs is not going to grow that class.
infrastructure? They built it from the ground up.
It isn't faring so well these days.
With people thinking the way you do: not so hot. Nativist sentiment always rises when times are tough. They're tough right now, so its no surprise people are willing to blame the sun and the moon on people that are a little bit different than them. These same arguments were used against my Italian, Irish and Slovak ancestors. They were all eventually proven to be untrue.
This is not about me, this is about how many inbound bodies the nation can handle, nation of origin is irrelevant.
The minimum wage should be $0 anyway.
The minimum wage is $0 for the unemployed.

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#224 Jan 18, 2009
Sorry about double posting the first half a second time; it did not show up until several minutes after the second post appeared.
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Beaverton, OR

#225 Jan 18, 2009
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“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#226 Jan 18, 2009
Tina916 wrote:
We 20 something year olds are competing with baby boomers who dont know when to call it quits (retire) and illegal aliens who get everything handed to them.
It's not good enough to just have a high school diploma or even an associates. We have to have bachelor's degrees to flip burgers at McDonalds.
I can't find a job anywhere and more and more people my age are lining up at the welfare office or starting on baby #2,#3, or #4. It's bad. I hope it gets better. I really want to contribute something great to this society just like every other 20 something. Most of us have dreams and aspirations too.
At what age should we boomers retire? How is it my fault youíre unable to find a job?

You clearly demonstrate one of my issues with generation y. Life is not structured, success isnít a group effort and failure is part of life. Rather than complain about not having a job try harder to find one. If that doesnít work create your own job.

I was faced with the same dilemma youíre facing now. I ended up taking a low paying grunt job until I could find something better. That didnít work out so I created my own job. Iíve been self employed most of my life. But, somehow itís my fault you donít have a job because I havenít retired?

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#227 Jan 18, 2009
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text> But, somehow itís my fault you donít have a job because I havenít retired?
That presumes you "owe" your job to your replacement and that it is somehow unethical of you to continue working into retirement age.

I, for one, do not plan to consign myself to a rocking chair in front of a window when I hit 65. If able, I will still be working, at least on a part time basis.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#228 Jan 18, 2009
Sheldon Clark wrote:
<quoted text>That presumes you "owe" your job to your replacement and that it is somehow unethical of you to continue working into retirement age.
I, for one, do not plan to consign myself to a rocking chair in front of a window when I hit 65. If able, I will still be working, at least on a part time basis.
While I do have a contingency plan I have no plans to retire. No, I donít owe my job to anyone. But, if I retire it would open up opportunities for others.

Take my post in context as a reply to Tina916. Tina complains about competing with boomers for jobs ďwho donít know when to call it quitsĒ. Iím not sure how sheís competing against illegal aliens. Most Americans are too lazy to take the jobs the illegals take.

“We The People”

Since: Dec 08

From Canada to Brazil

#229 Jan 18, 2009
eternal cynic wrote:
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Most Americans are too lazy to take the jobs the illegals take.
Then why is it that whenever ICE cleans out a company, Americans are lined up around the corner the next day to apply for jobs?

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#231 Jan 18, 2009
Dinah wrote:
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"Yoda" our world as we had it is DEAD. It no longer exists. If we as parents continue to give our young people advice like this, we can WATCH their downfall as they take our advice and find our ways don't WORK anymore. Nothing like the school of hard knocks for parents like me to find out.
You just made an EXCELLENT AND VERY TRUE point. For some reason, folks can't grasp the concept that life has changed in America. Things will never go back to the way they were. So, don't look for it to be...

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#232 Jan 18, 2009
anthony wrote:
This forum is full of quite a few old, bitter, labour minions who are just bitter that they are slaves to the system and Gen Y is much less into being people's bitch and know, many of them, that they can work smarter and not harder. Working hard is one thing, and I don't think Gen Y is any different than other generations in that regard. Least not THAT much. But go ahead and bask in the "glory" of hard, stupid, pointless work if it gives you a manly, self esteem boost. Given a cause we GIVE A DAMN about, Gen Y can work extremely hard for it. We'd rather not make our life goals of forklift driver, factory worker, and so on and so on. Bitter, bitter, people.
Did you even read the article? It points out that many college-aged people under the age of 30 are having difficulty finding work. But, part of that problem is the way they were raised. And their perceptions about life. Now, these young folks are facing the realities of life. However, there's a recession, therefore, they're finding it really hard to find work ANYWHERE...

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#233 Jan 18, 2009
eternal cynic wrote:
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At what age should we boomers retire? How is it my fault youíre unable to find a job?
You clearly demonstrate one of my issues with generation y. Life is not structured, success isnít a group effort and failure is part of life. Rather than complain about not having a job try harder to find one. If that doesnít work create your own job.
I was faced with the same dilemma youíre facing now. I ended up taking a low paying grunt job until I could find something better. That didnít work out so I created my own job. Iíve been self employed most of my life. But, somehow itís my fault you donít have a job because I havenít retired?
Good post...
good to me

Overland Park, KS

#234 Jan 18, 2009
If you are going to point fingers do it in front of a mirror, we are all to blame, and if you can't admit that ,then you really are the problem.Our parents generation is running things now, you know the sixites love and peace group, they haven't done to well, now it is our turn you know the 35 to 55 year old people, hope we have better luck, then when we are done it is the "Y" groups turn. All i hope is we leave things in better shape than our parents and their generation did. But it is everybodies problem, so own up to it take your share off the blame and try to something good and right, and quit bitch'in Im tired of hearing and seeing it, grow up boy's and girls, be real men and women, and do what we know is right and just.And just to put aside and comments on this, no i didn't vote for Obama or McCane, am not Democrat or republican, and yes believe in the constitution,am over fifty, married with kids and grandkids and great grandkids, and this economy is making it rough as well on us over fiftes also!

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#235 Jan 18, 2009
lastword wrote:
Sheís been out of work for nearly four months after getting laid off as a legal assistant for a construction company. Sheís applied to over 700 jobs and has gotten only seven interviews, leading nowhere.
Even with a masterís degree in forensic psychology and a bachelorís in sociology, she hasnít been able to land a sales associate job at Target, and she canít even get a call back from McDonald's, where she applied for the fast food chainís management training program two months ago
Real world my butt.
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You do realize that this country went through a depression, right? How do you think those folks survived, huh?

I'm college-educated and a writer. And as a writer, struggling just goes with the territory. I've been struggling for years while trying to launch a profressional writing career. But, guess what? I'm making it...I'm surviving. I find creative ways to survive. There's tons of things a person can do to survive. i.e. flea markets, yard sales, sell gold, metal, etc...etc...

"Some" of you young folks are a bunch of spoiled rotten brats and you think the world should be handed to you on a silver platter. As far as I'm concerned, some of you can drop down on your knees and scrub toilets, if you want to eat. Serves you right. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD, kids. Perhaps after this experience many of you will become humbled souls...

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#236 Jan 18, 2009
Reno_Craig wrote:
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And maybe he'll make overt, ignorant racism a hanging offense.
Be a whole lot of black folk hanging from a rope..eh?

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#237 Jan 18, 2009
sassafrass wrote:
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Generation Z= the Youtube generation. Have you taken a look at them? I am FRIGHTENED FOR MY LIFE as an elderly under their care. God help us.
~laughs~ You took the words right out of my mouth. They are going to beat us old folk stupid.

Nice generation...eh?

Solent green isn't looking to bad ...anymore.

This 'new' generation coming up...really dislikes 'old' people.

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#238 Jan 18, 2009
Cindy wrote:
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Dinah,
I read thru your posts and agree it is very difficult for the younger generation. College is very expensive and even if you are fortunate enough to attain a degree it is extremely competitive in the job market. I have 2 sons. One worked his way thru business college and now does recruiting. He has stated that employers want workers with experience. How does a college grad get a job without experience? The best way is by trying to get an internship or part time work in the field of your college degree. My son says he talks to young people everyday who are disillusioned because they've been told they only needed a higher education. But that is often not the case these days as employers don't want to train new hires.
My other son was working his way thru college but had to drop out in his 3rd year because he couldn't afford the tuition anymore. He has decided go part time to a trade school. I can only hope that one day he will have a better job. His current job has no benefits so he has to purchase his own health insurance.
Both my sons have a strong work ethic. So just ignore the negative remarks about young people on this post. It may be true of a minority but there are plenty of hard working young people out there.
My sons are 2 of them.
I wish the best for your daughter.
God Bless
I agree. Not ALL young people are lazy slackers. Yet, "some" are. Also, "poor" doesn't really mean "poor" to the point where you have absolutely, postively, nothing anymore. My parents and grandparents were poor. My grandparents didn't even have indoor plumbing. My parents didn't have a television set as children.(i'm 42-years-old)

But today kids are poor, and yet they've got cell phones. I used to work for the county (Section 8), and I'm looking at these "poor" people with cell phones, designer clothes, fancy cars. Not, that I care, even poor people deserve nice things.

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#239 Jan 18, 2009
lastword wrote:
Sheís been out of work for nearly four months after getting laid off as a legal assistant for a construction company. Sheís applied to over 700 jobs and has gotten only seven interviews, leading nowhere.
Even with a masterís degree in forensic psychology and a bachelorís in sociology, she hasnít been able to land a sales associate job at Target, and she canít even get a call back from McDonald's, where she applied for the fast food chainís management training program two months ago
Real world my butt.
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Nomads that have forgotten how to gather, interesting.

There are a ton of jobs in my area. As well as a ton of layoffs.

Guess if a body really needs work...moving seems the only way to go about it.

Sorry to hear about your friend...is some rough stuff. Good luck to her.

Since: Apr 07

Phillyburbs

#240 Jan 18, 2009
DC tells it like it is wrote:
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Nomads that have forgotten how to gather, interesting.
There are a ton of jobs in my area. As well as a ton of layoffs.
Guess if a body really needs work...moving seems the only way to go about it.
Sorry to hear about your friend...is some rough stuff. Good luck to her.
That's the lady who's actually featured in the article. She applied to Target, etc...etc... But, you're right, sometimes you've got to take a low-paying dirty job that's beneath you in order to survive...

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