Moms make case for gun control

Mar 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: usatoday.com

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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Then I can't be following you, you m/f c/s liar.
Wipe your chin, MOOCH.
You are following me around by responding to my posts. DON'T RESPOND TO MY POSTS. I HATE YOU. I CAN'T STAND YOU. YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A WORTHLESS TROLL THAT EVERYBODY HERE HATES. GO AWAY.
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No, he was a guy who was walking in the community he lived and paid taxes in when he was assaulted. He used his weapon after suffering a broken nose, two black eyes, lacerations to the back of his head, and some minor back injury.
Because he defended himself against a black thug, they want to throw him into jail.
That is not what happened, that is your opinion you seem to have no shame, for one thing the kid was not a thug, he was a grade A student who happened to live there with his ant. Clearly you have trouble expressing yourself without your favorite N-word don't you ...
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That is not what happened, that is your opinion you seem to have no shame, for one thing the kid was not a thug, he was a grade A student who happened to live there with his ant. Clearly you have trouble expressing yourself without your favorite N-word don't you ...
Do you even know what this story is about?

For one, he was not living with his aunt. He was staying at his fathers girlfriends house because he was suspended from school--again. He was not a grade-A student, he was a troublemaker. In fact, it was like pulling teeth for the defense to obtain Martin's school records.

What I said is what happened based on all the evidence such as multiple injuries to Zimmerman and none on Martin; not even a scratch. The only wounds they found on Martin was the bullet hole and a scraped knuckle.

Prosecution is going to have a hell of a time trying to convince a jury the evidence is not credible, because all evidence points to a vicious attack on Zimmerman.
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Do you even know what this story is about?
For one, he was not living with his aunt. He was staying at his fathers girlfriends house because he was suspended from school--again. He was not a grade-A student, he was a troublemaker. In fact, it was like pulling teeth for the defense to obtain Martin's school records.
What I said is what happened based on all the evidence such as multiple injuries to Zimmerman and none on Martin; not even a scratch. The only wounds they found on Martin was the bullet hole and a scraped knuckle.
Prosecution is going to have a hell of a time trying to convince a jury the evidence is not credible, because all evidence points to a vicious attack on Zimmerman.
Oh bull crap, he had every right to be there, your portrayal is rightwing racist bullcrap and in stark contrast to how his family, friends, and teachers describe him.
"He was a shy kid," said former football coach Jerome Horton. "He didn't want to be the center of attention; that's just not him. He always walked with his hoodie and his headphones, if he wasn't on the phone, he was listening to music -- anyone that knows him knows that."
Just like most any other teenager, Martin enjoyed listening to music -- R&B was his favorite -- going to the movies and the roller rink with his friends, friends and family said. When Martin entered high school, his childhood goals of a career on the football field were replaced with his dreams of working with airplanes.
During the summer of 2009, his parents -- who separated when Martin was 11, but shared custody -- enrolled their 14-year-old son in "Experience Aviation," a nonprofit program in Opa-Locka, Florida, that introduces young people to aviation.
Trayvon Martin, at age 14, with pilot Barrington Irving at his youth aviation program.
The seven-week program is the brainchild of Barrington Irving, the youngest person ever -- and the first black pilot -- to fly solo around the world, a feat he accomplished in 2007 at the age of 23.
Irving remembered Martin as "a polite kid" who enjoyed flying.
"When I first met Trayvon he had a strong interest in football. He reminded me of myself because I had a strong interest in football until I fell in love with aviation," said Irving. After graduating from the program, Martin spent the following summer as a volunteer, assisting new students enrolled in the aviation program.
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So what do you suppose happened? Zimmerman pulled Martin on top of him and forced Martin to hit him?
Court cases are about facts--not stories people make up. Facts are that Zimmerman was assaulted. It's a physical fact that nobody can disprove. The paramedics will attest to that and his doctor will attest to that. The coroner will attest to the fact that Martin had no other injuries besides the bullet wound and a scraped knuckle consistent of hitting somebody or something.
How does one turn that around into a murder case?
The only fact we know for sure is Martin was assaulted son. For all we know, Zimmerman threw the first punch. But then, we'll never know for sure.

What the coroner will attest to will happen on the stand, not by a third party son.
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How was he the instigator, because he ran after Martin for a few seconds and then stopped?
The dispatcher didn't give instructions. He only suggested to Zimmerman once that the police don't need him to tail Martin. There was nothing Zim did against the will of the dispatcher anyway.
And yes, Martin was doing something wrong. He was hiding behind houses waiting to attack Zimmerman which he did. I call that something wrong, don't you?
And Zimmerman left his vehicle with a loaded weapon to chase Martin after he indicated he was afraid of him while sitting in his vehicle.

And yes, there was nothing Zimmerman did against anyone's will. He made these conscious decisions all on his own.

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Wipe your chin, GayTroll, and do stop spamming the forum.
Talking to yourself again, eh freak? Yeah, the psych doctor did say that would be one of the side effects of those psych meds you're taking, remember?
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<quoted text>And Zimmerman left his vehicle with a loaded weapon to chase Martin after he indicated he was afraid of him while sitting in his vehicle.
And yes, there was nothing Zimmerman did against anyone's will. He made these conscious decisions all on his own.
Exactly. He did make his decisions on his own.

When Martin ran away from Zim for no reason at all, of course that's suspicious. The entire case boils down to that short foot chase that (again) lasted only a few seconds. However, the shooting took place minutes later. One had nothing to do with the other.

Nobody will be able to explain why Martin was behind that row of houses instead of going back to where he was staying. It just doesn't make sense unless you consider that Martin was hiding for a reason.

If you take that foot chase out of the picture, then there would be no case at all. So this is what the prosecution is counting on which should be a failure. Had Zimmerman did everything the same exact way, except not chase Martin in the first place, it would not be a national story today. He called the police, went to the front of the street to copy an address, and was attacked on his way back.

So this is my problem with the case. Because of that short foot chase, it changes everything from self-defense into murder.
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<quoted text>The only fact we know for sure is Martin was assaulted son. For all we know, Zimmerman threw the first punch. But then, we'll never know for sure.
What the coroner will attest to will happen on the stand, not by a third party son.
Wait a minute. Martin was assaulted? Where do you get that from? What evidence is there that Martin was attacked by Zimmerman when he had no physical injuries to substantiate that so-called assault?

Let's try this once again: courts do not rule on made up stories. Courts judge people by actual evidence. And there is not one shred of evidence that Martin was attacked. Not even a hint. In fact, evidence points to the exact opposite.
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And there is not one shred of evidence that Martin was attacked. Not even a hint..
do you think being murdered is?
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. It just doesn't make sense unless you consider that Martin was hiding for a reason.
there was a nut with a gun stalking him.
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do you think being murdered is?
Not if you are the attacker. When you attack somebody and they shoot you dead, you deserve it.
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there was a nut with a gun stalking him.
He didn't know Zim had a gun. And even if he did, why not try to get shelter such as the place you are staying at? Why not call police yourself instead of staying on the phone with your child molester girlfriend? Why not knock on a neighbors door and ask for help?

If somebody is chasing me with a gun, the last place I would stay is the closest I can get to him. I'm getting as far away from him as I can.
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Wait a minute. Martin was assaulted? Where do you get that from? What evidence is there that Martin was attacked by Zimmerman when he had no physical injuries to substantiate that so-called assault?
Let's try this once again: courts do not rule on made up stories. Courts judge people by actual evidence. And there is not one shred of evidence that Martin was attacked. Not even a hint. In fact, evidence points to the exact opposite.
He's dead son. From a gsw. And as confessed by Zimmerman.

If not for that, you wouldn't have the current charges.

In fact, it's the whole point of the case.
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Exactly. He did make his decisions on his own.
When Martin ran away from Zim for no reason at all, of course that's suspicious. The entire case boils down to that short foot chase that (again) lasted only a few seconds. However, the shooting took place minutes later. One had nothing to do with the other.
Nobody will be able to explain why Martin was behind that row of houses instead of going back to where he was staying. It just doesn't make sense unless you consider that Martin was hiding for a reason.
If you take that foot chase out of the picture, then there would be no case at all. So this is what the prosecution is counting on which should be a failure. Had Zimmerman did everything the same exact way, except not chase Martin in the first place, it would not be a national story today. He called the police, went to the front of the street to copy an address, and was attacked on his way back.
So this is my problem with the case. Because of that short foot chase, it changes everything from self-defense into murder.
I don't have a 'problem' per se with the case.

I just have a problem with people who've already drawn a conclusion based on the evidence they're willing to accept or deny.. or make up.
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He didn't know Zim had a gun. And even if he did, why not try to get shelter such as the place you are staying at? Why not call police yourself instead of staying on the phone with your child molester girlfriend? Why not knock on a neighbors door and ask for help?
If somebody is chasing me with a gun, the last place I would stay is the closest I can get to him. I'm getting as far away from him as I can.
Between the two, Zimmerman was the only armed adult in the area.

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do you think being murdered is?
There is no evidence that it was murder. All the evidence presented to date leads to a self-defense shooting by Zimmerman. And Martin was armed......with the sidewalk the was bashing Zimmerman's head against. Eye-witnesses have attested to this.

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<quoted text>I don't have a 'problem' per se with the case.
I just have a problem with people who've already drawn a conclusion based on the evidence they're willing to accept or deny.. or make up.
Like the claim that it was Zimmerman who attacked Martin first when there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to that claim??

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<quoted text>Between the two, Zimmerman was the only armed adult in the area.
Have always found it interesting how demonrats defend criminals and tyrants. And then turn around and cry to have regular people disarmed so that they are unable to defend themselves against them. Can you please explain to me the justification for that reasoning?
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Like the claim that it was Zimmerman who attacked Martin first when there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to that claim??
yes there you ignorant f-ing racist! According court records Zimmerman stated that "I would not have got out of my car without a gun"

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