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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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#1671 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Okay, there are millions of non-blacks on welfare, which includes whites & Hispanic & Asians etc.

Whites have had complete total control of everything for 150+ years.
Blacks have only had some "special treatment" for less than 50 years.

So by your logic there shouldn't be any reason for ANY whites in poverty or uneducated.

I've seen nothing in either "black culture" nor "white culture" which explains why some people remain in poverty & uneducated in spite of the assistance available while others manage to break free from the cycle of poverty and become successful.

I HAVE seen a lot of inequities especially in education funding which tend to keep poor people poor regardless of their race. Since more blacks are currently poor, it stands to reason more are going to remain poor with these continuing inequities.

The rest is on the individual.

But feel free to keep blaming the entire race like a good little racist.
How is this not implying whites owe a debt of equal time?
"Whites have had complete total control of everything for 150+ years.
Blacks have only had some "special treatment" for less than 50 years."

You can not see the reason for staying in "poverty" because you are blinded by your politically correct agenda.

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#1672 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>No, you ignore the 200+ years of special treatment for whites because it doesn't fit into your racist narrative.

So lets see how the blacks do after 200 years of special treatment. Maybe they'll be at the same level as whites are after their 200 years of special treatment.
There it is again! You post this, then turn around and swear you don't want revenge or getting even for blacks! You lie!

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#1673 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Easy-

Post #1638.

Saying "the black culture" is no different than saying "black people".

Just one of your many negative racist statements.
Lmao! Wrong. Try again! Better yet, try proving exactly what I said in that post wrong.

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#1674 Aug 19, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
So they didn't even HAVE the jobs you're whining about them "losing", then,
...right?
If this is in reply to me, go back and read what Savant was replying to when you posted to him.
I never whined about them losing jobs. In fact, I have tried to point out that these liberals are trying to utilize blacks being less than 13% of the total population when saying blacks lost more jobs than whites. Yet they avoid the 13% portion of the conversation when it is about over representation of blacks in negative statistics such as being on Welfare, or violent crime rates.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1675 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
I've heard many complaints about incompetent people of ALL races who were placed in positions they weren't qualified for.
You obviously hear what you want to hear.
I hear just fine......YOU on the other hand are not capable of understanding what you hear. If an employer finds someone to be incompetent after they are hired.....they will soon be without a job. It is too difficult to fire a black as the race card will be wrapped tighly around the necks of any employer who dares to fire one.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1676 Aug 19, 2013
Tm Clmns wrote:
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And you pathetic rip off white thieves are afraid you will have to really work and maybe pay your fair share of taxes to cover the cost of all the government benefits you enjoy. Stadiums, freeways, education (maybe grade 12), cheap energy, bailed out car companies......
You are too busy watching NFL Nascar WWwrestling, eating pizza, drinking beer and visiting prostitutes between polishing your guns and driving around in dirty trucks with fat tires (too lazy to wash them)
Lucky the Mexicans pick your food crops or you would starve..
Interesting comments, ignorant as they are. I would prefer that you pay to educate your own brats so taxpayers can be relieved of such an enormous amount of waste. Who wants to bail out car companies besides those crime laden unions?Many people would much prefer to move away from big govt. Why should anyone want to give up their money, rights and freedom to a bloated, wasteful and power hungry centralized power? It only serves to enslave people not liberate them. You are obviously not bright enough to understand.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#1677 Aug 19, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting comments, ignorant as they are. I would prefer that you pay to educate your own brats so taxpayers can be relieved of such an enormous amount of waste. Who wants to bail out car companies besides those crime laden unions?Many people would much prefer to move away from big govt. Why should anyone want to give up their money, rights and freedom to a bloated, wasteful and power hungry centralized power? It only serves to enslave people not liberate them. You are obviously not bright enough to understand.
Extremely well said !

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#1678 Aug 19, 2013
if a man is married to another man, don't you think his opinions also might be tainted?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1679 Aug 19, 2013
Chip Westhoven wrote:
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And what does your deflection from a direct, simple question prove about you?
It proves I don't identify myself by irrelevant categories such as race.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1680 Aug 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you were unable to provide a post where you viewed the blacks as being wrong.
Because unlike racist like you, I don't view "the blacks" as an entity who do right or wrong. I view people as individuals, some of whom I'm sure are black and have been wrong about something.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1681 Aug 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
How is this not implying whites owe a debt of equal time?
"Whites have had complete total control of everything for 150+ years.
Blacks have only had some "special treatment" for less than 50 years."
You can not see the reason for staying in "poverty" because you are blinded by your politically correct agenda.
Because it's not.

It's a simple statement that millions of whites are still uneducated and living in poverty after 150+ years of state sponsored and in fact state MANDATED preferential treatment in nearly every aspect of life- jobs, education, politics, housing, voting, etc, etc, etc.

But for some reason you expect "the blacks" to be completely out of poverty and have college degrees after just 50 years of a few obviously uneffective Affirmative Action programs, after their ancestors spent the previous 150 years in under state sponsored discrimination.

Gee, now I wonder less whites are uneducated and living in poverty than "the blacks"....?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1682 Aug 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
There it is again! You post this, then turn around and swear you don't want revenge or getting even for blacks! You lie!
Nope, it's not about revenge or getting even.

It's about allowing "the blacks" at least the same amount of time to recover from the effects of slavery, generational wealth theft, and state sponsored discrimination as they spent suffering under it.

If I wanted revenge, I would be supporting enslaving whites and stealing all their money and banning them from voting and regulating where they can work & live & shop & pee etc, etc, etc.

THAT would be supporting revenge; I don't.

I'm simply saying it's unrealistic to expect everyone to recover from 150 years of institutionalized discrimination in just 50 years.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1683 Aug 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Lmao! Wrong. Try again! Better yet, try proving exactly what I said in that post wrong.
Racists always deny being racists.

You're no different.

Since: Dec 12

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#1684 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Because unlike racist like you, I don't view "the blacks" as an entity who do right or wrong. I view people as individuals, some of whom I'm sure are black and have been wrong about something.
Your ignoring of statistics is noted.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1685 Aug 19, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I hear just fine......YOU on the other hand are not capable of understanding what you hear. If an employer finds someone to be incompetent after they are hired.....they will soon be without a job. It is too difficult to fire a black as the race card will be wrapped tighly around the necks of any employer who dares to fire one.
Nope, I've fired incompetent people of all races.

See, the trick is they have to actually BE incompetent and you have to be able to document that incompetence, instead of just being a different color from the boss.

Fire a white person without appropriate documentation of incompetence or malfeasance and you're just as likely to be sued, even in an "at will" employment state.

Had you ever actually worked in HR or had to hire/fire people, you'd know that.

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#1686 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Because it's not.

It's a simple statement that millions of whites are still uneducated and living in poverty after 150+ years of state sponsored and in fact state MANDATED preferential treatment in nearly every aspect of life- jobs, education, politics, housing, voting, etc, etc, etc.

But for some reason you expect "the blacks" to be completely out of poverty and have college degrees after just 50 years of a few obviously uneffective Affirmative Action programs, after their ancestors spent the previous 150 years in under state sponsored discrimination.

Gee, now I wonder less whites are uneducated and living in poverty than "the blacks"....?
Which is why you ignore the statistics! Look at the percentage of uneducated total whites living in "poverty" compared to the percentage of uneducated total blacks living in "poverty".

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1687 Aug 19, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I hear just fine......YOU on the other hand are not capable of understanding what you hear. If an employer finds someone to be incompetent after they are hired.....they will soon be without a job. It is too difficult to fire a black as the race card will be wrapped tighly around the necks of any employer who dares to fire one.
Btw, according to the Labor Dept, twice as many blacks lost their jobs during the recent recession as whites.

Obviously many employers found ways to fire blacks without "the race card" being used against them.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#1688 Aug 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Racists always deny being racists.
You're no different.
You are the ultimate example.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1689 Aug 19, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
if a man is married to another man, don't you think his opinions also might be tainted?
Only if you're a bigot....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1690 Aug 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Your ignoring of statistics is noted.
I always ignore irrelevant statistics.

Just as I ignore statistics which say you're likely to die younger if you sleep more than 9 hours a day, because sleeping longer doesn't cause you to die younger; the underlying disease which causes some people to sleep longer is what kills you. Sleeping longer is merely a symptom.

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